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Rimfire Bullpups => HTA 90/22 => Topic started by: HighTowerArmory on April 23, 2012, 11:30:31 AM



Title: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 23, 2012, 11:30:31 AM
Hello Everyone,

We at HTA have seen and heard a lot of hype about the recent Red Jacket stock kit and wanted to let everyone know that there is another option coming out even sooner. Please check out our website www.HighTowerArmory.com and let us know what you think. We are about 1-2 months from selling product. Please spread the word! We're almost there...

Thanks,

The team at High Tower Armory, LLC



Title: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on April 23, 2012, 11:48:17 AM
thats a nice set up hta,,you should put more close up pics on your site"or here"i really like it mainly because it has a alum bedding block..look forward to hearing when this is in stock and "ready to ship"
the price is right also ;)

oh yeah,,hows the trigger pull,,and is the trigger bar plastic?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sgt_P on April 23, 2012, 12:14:11 PM
Looking forward to some details!

Like Johnny9 said, the aluminum bedding block is a great asset.

How does the stock accept both, factory or Bull, barrels?

 8)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 23, 2012, 12:26:39 PM
Hey Guys,

The trigger pull is excellent. The 90/22 comes with a steel trigger actuating bar- just like Red Jacket's, steel will result in very little deflection when pulled. Companies like Muzzelite were lambasted for their plastic bars so we went steel. We also have some really cool features that help you customize the take up slightly, something that will vary from gun to gun.

Sorry about the pictures we will definitely add some more. Any thoughts or input on what you'd like to see?

Thanks!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 23, 2012, 12:32:06 PM
Oh yes the barrels!

The 90/22 was designed for both .920 bull (at least 18") and the standard factory 18.5"barrels. This was accomplished with a simple drop in bushing system.


We are also very excited to let you all know that barrels will soon be available from HTA that will give your rifle a "finished" look. They will have an integral flash hider and other features that give you the tactical look and feel most kits don't achieve. Thanks for all the interest. We really, really appreciate it!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on April 23, 2012, 01:30:12 PM
cant wait to see this on a market for sale,,hopefully not a 6 month waiting list ;D but qaulity does take time 8)

hta,is the upper rail removable?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 23, 2012, 01:38:39 PM
Yes Johnny us too!

We have spent countless hours, taken input from gun experts and novices alike, and invested a great deal in ensuring that this product would be better hands down than anything else out there. The molds are cut, the machining complete and now we wait only for production and a few other logistical wrinkles to be ironned out. 2 months at the latest is our goal.

The upper rail will be affixed to one of the halves. The benefit of being affixed is accuracy (less play that way). It also will allow you to completely disassemble the stock and rifle without removing your optic and sacraficing a zero. If you have a special reason you would want it to be removable, we can certainly make one especially for you which would allow you remove the rail once the gun stock is apart that is. Please keep the questions and feedback coming!

Thanks!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HardShell on April 23, 2012, 04:09:04 PM
Looks great.  Count me in for one...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 23, 2012, 04:11:55 PM
Consider yourself counted!  ;D Thanks for the kind words!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: PapaJoeTx on April 23, 2012, 04:33:15 PM
Got any Videos?

is that P90 mag on the top for ammo storage?

The pic on your home page looks like you have a suppressor on it...but some pics elsewhere on your site show it with the Ruger stock tapered barrel and stock site sticking out about the same length as what that supressor on the home page is...is that "supressor" really a sleeve over the stock ruger barrell just to make it look better? If so it works...i like that look better

Would you be willing to get a prototype to Sgt P or maybe one if the other members to check out?  maybe someone lives near you?  


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 23, 2012, 05:21:13 PM
Hey Papa Joe!

Thanks for the reply. We will have some videos very soon on Youtube and our site.

Yes the box on the top of the gun (same one that is laying down above the gun) is for storage. It will hold 45 rounds of .22 or .17 HM2 (which looks sweet because it's a bottleneck cartridge) when alternated left right left right. Or it will hold 40 rounds of either when they all face one direction. The rounds are accessed via a drawer that slides out.

The suppressor on the home page is the dummy suppressor that will be included in every kit. It allows the user to cover the "ugly" blade sight on the barrel or give bull barrels a more tactical look. We will also offer an integrally flash suppressed barrel to give the barrel a great look.

As far as protos or samples, we already have a couple volunteers who will be posting reviews and other material on youtube/forums very soon. Until then, if you have any questions, feel free to ask! We are very excited to share what we all feel is a superb product! Thanks!




Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on April 23, 2012, 06:44:29 PM
papajoe heres a link on a diffrent page of there site incase ya missed it,,lot more info ..

http://www.hightowerarmory.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HTA9022BLK



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 23, 2012, 06:54:46 PM
Thanks Johnny- good call, just assumed everyone had seen it!

We may have to hire you here!  ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: PapaJoeTx on April 23, 2012, 08:30:45 PM
Doh! yep, missed that write up...



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: kanur on April 24, 2012, 12:16:55 PM
Sweet! I have a PS90 clone I built (pics in the 10/22 thread) that I like a lot but it would be nice to have a better trigger and functioning charging handle. Also mine is a real pain to take apart.

Any plans to offer it in OD green or FDE?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 24, 2012, 12:32:11 PM
Hey Kunar,

Thank you sir! We certainly feel that our stock will be a much better solution than the airsoft builds- and safer!

Yes we will likely have od greens coming very soon (possibly in the same run as the black ones if we get enough interest to make it cost effective to mold a second or third color.)

Any colors you'd like to see? Flat dark earth, desert tan, foliage, PINK?? (for the ladies and those of you who are comfortable enough to hold any gun, regardless of color, without shame).

Let us know what you want to see! We want to keep our company fluid and responsive! If enough of you want to see it, we'll make it happen. Don't be bashful, let's have some fun with this! Any thoughts on color?

Thank everyone!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: defcon on April 24, 2012, 12:43:47 PM
would be cool to see some WWII machine gun stocks for the 10/22

like the FN BAR, MG42, MG34, Bren, FG42

im currently welding/milling out the FN BAR and Bren to fit the 10/22


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 24, 2012, 12:47:47 PM
Absolutely! We will definitely put those on the list of guns to mod. Keep the suggestions coming! We are always happy to get some feedback!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: kanur on April 25, 2012, 11:03:33 AM
ODG, FDE, or DT would tempt me to spend my money on a new stock.

Is yours a 1 to 1 copy of a PS90 stock or did you make it longer to get to legal length? On my clone I mounted the receiver as far forward as possible and still had to weld the flash hider on it to reach legal length with the stock 18" barrel.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Mr Absolute on April 25, 2012, 11:58:40 AM
I would seriously buy one in pink camo. No kidding around.

Would really like to see digicamo too.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 25, 2012, 12:11:02 PM
Very astute Kunar!

Yes ours is longer- we simply couldn't offer a stock for barrels 18" or longer without extending the butt slightly. In my opinion, biased as it may be, the extra length of pull is actually really comfortable and it gives a much better cheek weld since you no longer need to rest your head on the magazine like the shorter options out there.

Mr. Absolute- we will definitely consider a pink one- maybe even if it's just a one-off specially made for you  8)

Thanks for the input. You can all expect an OD green version very soon. Desert tan would also be a likely third color option. FDE, with enough interest, could take tan's place at #3 on the color option list.

Keep the advice coming guys. We really, really appreciate it!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HardShell on April 25, 2012, 01:24:06 PM
... Thanks for the input. You can all expect an OD green version very soon. Desert tan would also be a likely third color option. FDE, with enough interest, could take tan's place at #3 on the color option list...

While I want/will buy a black one ASAP, a tan or FDE would make me really consider buying a second one as well.

(I have more than a dozen 10/22s, and a few of them are still unmodified/only slightly modified...  :-[)



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 25, 2012, 01:45:25 PM
So +1 on the FDE or tan from Hardshell. Any other input? With enough votes for tan or FDE, one of those may make a move for 2nd on the list of colors and knock OD to the curb. Any thoughts? Thanks guys!!!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on April 25, 2012, 02:07:39 PM
im good with and of those 3 colors myself..it looks good when the black butt,ralis,scope and such are there with a diffrent color stock,,then when ya add some rail covers of color and choice it will be ever so sweet..
im easy   :}{


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 25, 2012, 02:18:52 PM
Cool and I agree- the different color stock with black accents looks awesome!! Just a heads up so there is no confusion, the butt pad is part of the main body and it has detailing on the butt to prevent slip. But what would be black is the: trigger, both front and rear safeties, charging handle, sight rail, side sight rails, dummy suppressor and storage box release. We only have CAD color renderings now but the OD looks amazing! Thanks again for the help/input!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on April 25, 2012, 02:43:50 PM
well being i cant leave well enough alone ;D,if theres room behind the reciever"in the stock" i just might cut the but off as short as possible against the action ,make a alum plate the shape of the butt to add a choate machine but pad spacer system like on most of my homemade bullpups..not that i will cut it,but if it can be done i will prob do it..along with a mono pod if the stock allows room ;D
in the pics it looks like all kinds of room in there,,cant wait for the bullpupforum to have a thread labeled
"bullpups now in stock at hta"


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: kanur on April 25, 2012, 03:42:56 PM
Yes ours is longer- we simply couldn't offer a stock for barrels 18" or longer without extending the butt slightly. In my opinion, biased as it may be, the extra length of pull is actually really comfortable and it gives a much better cheek weld since you no longer need to rest your head on the magazine like the shorter options out there.

I can see how this may be better, the LOP on the stock one is pretty short.

I'm good for any of the colors mentioned....well, maybe not the pink  ::)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on April 25, 2012, 05:06:15 PM
very smart to keep it available to every size barrel owner..oh,dont get me wrong,the trigger pull would remain the same,just the look is why id add what i like..if possible..
maybe if i do it then you can lead others to the thread where me or someone else modifies the butt,again, if theres room..time shall tell when there at our front doors .
im gonna let others have more a chance to get in hear and speak,and shut up a while ;D
damn,see the stir up hta caused with this new body for 10-22 toyz   ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gryfox23 on April 25, 2012, 05:32:45 PM
If I wanted a SBR, would the HTA P90 setup work with the following:

Tactical Solutions X ring SB-X barrel
http://www.tacticalsol.com/tshome/ca...arrel-upgrades

Sparrow suppressor
http://www.silencerco.com/?section=P...s&page=Sparrow

The reason I ask is because of the larger end of the barrel that the suppressor is encased in. It would look really good if it would work! >:D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gryfox23 on April 25, 2012, 08:39:35 PM
Also.....

Where can I pre-order one?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 25, 2012, 09:17:10 PM
Hey Gryfox,

HTA decided not to do a pre-order. We just don't believe in recieving money we haven't yet earned.

What we can offer is the ability to lock in your spot for a 90/22 by going to our website and signing up for the newsletter. Orders will be filled on a first-come, first-serve basis. The sooner you join our emailing list, the better your chance of getting one of the first 90/22's off the presss. Many of you have already signed up but please don't forget to tell your friends if they have any interest at all, it would be wise to sign up.

The best part is you don't have to commit to anything. We will simply send you an alert letting you know a day or two in advance of when product will be up for sale. Then you can choose whether or not you are still interested by either purchasing or not purchasing. We are all about customer service here at HTA, and we felt the best way to serve you all would be to let you keep your money until you absolutely have to part with it. Thank you all very much for your questions, help, input, and most of all patience! Please keep spreading the word!!!

Andy and the Team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gryfox23 on April 26, 2012, 12:28:24 AM
I had already signed up for the newsletter before you wrote this, so........

What number am I?!!!!! I'm anxious!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 26, 2012, 12:35:44 AM
We saw that GryFox! I don't want to give out any specifics, but I will say it's looking pretty good for you  ;D

I have no doubt you'll recieve one from the first shipment! Thanks again for all your enthusiasm!!!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gryfox23 on April 26, 2012, 06:22:15 AM
Outstanding! I can't wait!  ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: superbee on April 26, 2012, 07:59:00 PM
I'm on the list!!! ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 26, 2012, 09:01:25 PM
Glad to hear it superbee!! Thanks for  signing on! We'll alert you as soon as product is ready to move. Tell all your friends, the spots are filling up quick...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HardShell on April 26, 2012, 10:49:32 PM
... What we can offer is the ability to lock in your spot for a 90/22 by going to our website and signing up for the newsletter. Orders will be filled on a first-come, first-serve basis. The sooner you join our emailing list, the better your chance of getting one of the first 90/22's off the presss...

Done.  Can't wait!



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mjl99 on April 28, 2012, 09:00:07 AM
hey guys had a quick question for you. i know you say a 18in barrels is required for this stock to make it nfa legal. i currently have a 10/22 tactical model that i use as a host with my suppressor and the barrel is 16.12. given that i dont want to obviously perm attach an extension to the barrel to give it an oal of 26in with your stock, would i be able to perm attach an extension on the back of the stock like a buttpad or something similar to achieve the legal oal? i know i could order another 18in barrel but id rather not have to drop another hundred into the rifle if i could avoid it.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on April 28, 2012, 09:08:56 AM
it has a fixed butt pad as part of the stock,,if your handy like me you can surely add a butt pad like im gonna do to make it legal..i may even cut off a inch or 2 from the stock and add adjustable spacers and a rubber pad,,if possible...i feel it will be easy..
dont quote me as im not affiliated with hta,,but it will be working with my 16inch threaded barrel.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sgt_P on April 28, 2012, 11:03:39 AM
i currently have a 10/22 tactical model that i use as a host with my suppressor and the barrel is 16.12.

I know it would be an investment, but why not get another stamp for a sbr??


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on April 28, 2012, 11:20:19 AM
how long does a sbr stamp take to get?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HardShell on April 28, 2012, 11:41:36 AM
Form 1s are currently running 6 months or more.

I have several pending that I expect back over the next couple of months.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mjl99 on April 29, 2012, 08:53:33 AM
i currently have a 10/22 tactical model that i use as a host with my suppressor and the barrel is 16.12.

I know it would be an investment, but why not get another stamp for a sbr??

if im gonna invest in another stamp right now, ive got other things on my list than a 10 22 build. plus i really dont want to wait for long transfer times right now, lol. i mean ive already got to wait for the stock to come out lol.

and johnny, im pretty handy that i could manage something on the back, i just wanted to make sure that would be considered legit if i did that. i was eventually planning on cutting up an airsoft stock until i saw this one and the red jacket model. what do you plan on using for something adjustable?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on April 29, 2012, 09:18:44 AM
 choate machine and tool butt pads and spacer systems..there very affordable and work great..you have to look them up online and give them a call as there not on there web site..when i call them i say i want the thick rubber but pad thats on the dragonduv stock.thats on the first gun i the pic...and for 6 bucks i get a thin but pad also,then i tell them i want a few 1/2 inch spacers and 1 3/4 spacer,,then i have a selection too choose from and have leftovers for other guns..the bottom gun is 26  1/4 inches long..
heres what they look like..and if poss i will use them on the hta stock..i have a few left along with a dozen or so extra rails..the bottom pic shows the thin but pad and 2   1/2 inch spacers..
(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i375/mollywetears/DSC09455.jpg)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: superbee on April 29, 2012, 01:45:47 PM
choate machine and tool butt pads and spacer systems..there very affordable and work great..you have to look them up online and give them a call as there not on there web site..when i call them i say i want the thick rubber but pad thats on the dragonduv stock.thats on the first gun i the pic...and for 6 bucks i get a thin but pad also,then i tell them i want a few 1/2 inch spacers and 1 3/4 spacer,,then i have a selection too choose from and have leftovers for other guns..the bottom gun is 26  1/4 inches long..
heres what they look like..and if poss i will use them on the hta stock..i have a few left along with a dozen or so extra rails..the bottom pic shows the thin but pad and 2   1/2 inch spacers..
(http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i375/mollywetears/DSC09455.jpg)

Johnny9....Your da man....Nice collection!!!  Is there certain forum where you have posted pics/details of all your builds?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on April 29, 2012, 02:45:34 PM
yes,,the forum is called"bullpupforum.com" ;D   tell your friends about it ;)
there here;;
http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=370.0

http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=279.0

http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=239.0

http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=375.0


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: superbee on April 29, 2012, 07:00:59 PM
yes,,the forum is called"bullpupforum.com" ;D   tell your friends about it ;)
there here;;
http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=370.0

http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=279.0

http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=239.0

http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=375.0

I definetley deserved that!!!!  :)

I had it in my brain what i wanted to ask you, but my fingers typed something totally different....By your answer i see you understood what i was trying to ask you.  Thanks for the links...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on April 29, 2012, 07:08:40 PM
lmao ;D  anytime superbee..


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mjl99 on April 29, 2012, 08:34:08 PM
choate machine and tool butt pads and spacer systems..there very affordable and work great..you have to look them up online and give them a call as there not on there web site..when i call them i say i want the thick rubber but pad thats on the dragonduv stock.thats on the first gun i the pic...and for 6 bucks i get a thin but pad also,then i tell them i want a few 1/2 inch spacers and 1 3/4 spacer,,then i have a selection too choose from and have leftovers for other guns..the bottom gun is 26  1/4 inches long..
heres what they look like..and if poss i will use them on the hta stock..i have a few left along with a dozen or so extra rails..the bottom pic shows the thin but pad and 2   1/2 inch spacers..


Those all look like thick recoil pads. i guess im getting confused about whats the spacer and whats the actual recoil pad. are they both blending together or am i missing something?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on April 29, 2012, 09:33:35 PM
the 2 top guns have the thick spongee pads,,there nice after they get broke in,the bottom pic of the 10-22 has a 1/2 thin pad and 2 more half inch spacers..

yall are welcome to ask me anything,but maybe we should do it in the threads for the guns so we dont litter up hta,s thread..
have to stay on good terms with them so i can get one of there first batch of toys ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gryfox23 on May 02, 2012, 05:45:41 AM
Do we have an ETA on the HTA P90/22? I'm excited!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sgt_P on May 02, 2012, 06:01:28 AM
Last I heard, HTA was optimistic, using the phrase, "a month or two"...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 02, 2012, 07:25:35 AM
Hey Everyone,

We are still very optimistic about the 1-2 month timeline. Of course, we want to make you all the best possible product so if it were to take longer (we don't think it will) we hope you'll understand we are doing our very best to hurry.

I appreciate all the buzz guys! Thanks!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: vulgar_hands on May 06, 2012, 11:17:05 PM
I have the TAC-SOL BullBarrel which is 16.5". If I attached a 2" compensator would it be considered Legal, as this would bring the barrel to 18.5"?

I'm really excited about this product let me know, thanks!!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 06, 2012, 11:26:56 PM
Hey Vulgar Hands!

Great question- if you were to permanently affix the comp (weld, pin, etc), yes that would be legal. However, if the comp is only threaded, then no. A removable barrel attachment does not count towards length.

I would highly advise talking with a local gunsmith or sheriff about this to be sure. I'm not a lawyer so you definitely want to check with an authority on the matter in your area. I hope that helps!

Thanks for your interest,

Andy


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: vulgar_hands on May 07, 2012, 12:49:14 AM
Thanks for the quick response and great info Andy, Looking forward to getting this product.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 07, 2012, 11:41:20 AM
My pleasure Vulgar!

We are here to serve and we are all very much looking forward to shipping you one of our stocks!

Thanks!

Andy


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: firebert on May 11, 2012, 06:05:30 AM
Wow, glad I found this fourm. I been saving up my pennies for the RJF stock and on the day when I was finally had the funds to buy the price went up to $299! $229 was the limit I was willing to pay so I started searching for alternatives and found myself here. It seems that with the HTA stock I'll be getting more for less. Plus I can easily see that the HTA staff is more proactive with answering customer questions.. Let's just say I've been waiting a week for the other guys to answer a simple question regarding magazines.

Anyways I already went to the website, added it to the wish list, and signed up for the newsletter. Can't wait to do business with you guys


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sgt_P on May 11, 2012, 08:31:25 AM
HTA is showing alot of great customer service!

 :cheerleader

Welcome Firebert!!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 11, 2012, 02:23:19 PM
Hey Firebert!

Thanks for the kind words! And for signing up!

HTA takes a great deal of pride in our responsiveness. As long time shooters and outdoorsmen, we know how frustrating it can be when an question or comment ends up in a dummy inbox with 1000's of others that never get opened. We want everyone to know that we are here to help you any way we can!

If you have any questions, or just want to make a friendly suggestion about what our next product should be or how to improve the products we have, never be shy about dropping a line. We love engaging with our customers!

Thanks again for noticing! We appreciate it Firebert (and Sgt_P!)

Andy and the HTA team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Mickey D on May 13, 2012, 09:14:39 PM
Sign up for your newsletter last week. Does this add me to the list of people wanting one of your bullpup.
                                         Mickey D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 13, 2012, 10:00:51 PM
Hey Mickey! (trying hard not to break into song while typing this)

Exactly- by signing up on our newsletter, you and everyone on it will receive an email a few days in advance of the first date of sale. This letter will include the date and approximate time that the buy option becomes available. It will be first-come first-serve after that, so be there as soon as possible. At the moment, we should have enough for everyone on the list, but that doesn't mean word won't spread or people won't stumble across it.

It is therefore in your best interest not to tell anyone about the release day until after you have purchased. We also ask that you please wait a few days more after you buy, to ensure everyone who joined has a shot at one.  We could have done a pre-buy, but with no track record, bad experiences with other pre-buy companies, and an economy that has many counting pennies, we felt this was the best option for all concerned. This way you aren't locked into anything, can back out at any time, and entrust us with little more than your email address.

Please let me know if you have any questions! We're here to help however we can. Thanks a ton Mickey!

Andy and the HTA team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on May 17, 2012, 11:02:17 AM
Hi, Andy (HTA).  I get the impression that the first run is a limited quantity, but I didn't see that stated in the thread.  Can you say how many will be part of the first run, and will this first run be on soft tooling?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 17, 2012, 11:32:51 AM
Hey Plinker!

Great questions! I don't want to give out too many details that our competition might find useful but what I can say is that the first run is in the hundreds, not thousands. There still should be enough inventory for everyone who signed up for our newsletter to get one, so if you have any interest, be sure to add yourself to our newsletter! It will alert you a few days in advance of when product goes live, an should get you the best chance at getting one.

As far as tooling, this run (and all future runs) are in hard tooling.  We spent the money up front to do this thing right, not only for us, but for our customers as well. These tools should last a long time and will thus help us fill back orders should our shot counts run beyond the life expectancy of a soft tool.

I hope that answers your questions Plinker- sorry I can't go too much into specifics. If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to ask! Thanks,

Andy and the HTA team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: vulgar_hands on May 17, 2012, 06:19:35 PM
Do you plan on making and selling an additional extended recoil pad for those of us with 16" barrels?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on May 17, 2012, 06:57:37 PM
Outstanding reply, Andy.  It is what I'd hoped, and expected from your quality-driven view.  Soft tooling wont' hold up to too many parts GFP before you start running into degradation of the mold cavity.  Some folks might use an initial run on soft tooling to fund the cost of hard tooling (as you no doubt know, there's quite a difference in cost), and doing extended runs on soft tooling would lead to quality concerns.  Glad to hear that HTA is doing it right the first time!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 17, 2012, 07:36:28 PM
Hey Vulgar and Plinker,

To Vulgar:

We may do this at some point but I'll be perfectly honest, it's on the back burner for a while. We have barrels for the 10/22 coming soon, extended mag and bolt releases for the 90/22 just about to enter production, an FS2000 grip underway, and now some Kel-tec Sub2000 concepts that may appear soon too. Needless to say we are pretty busy!

We definitely want to keep all our customers happy but I just can't in good conscience tell you to expect anything soon. You'd be better off buying an 18" barrel in my opinion, than waiting for something that could be months away, if at all. I don't mean to let you down and we are sorry for any inconvenience. You could always go the Johnny9 route (if you think you're up to it, keeping in mind he's good enough to make it look easy) and add your own butt-pad. Remember to permanently attach it. Slip on items do not count towards OAL. Again many apologies for not being able to fill the roll you need us to at this time. I'm sure we can eventually produce a solution but it's just a question of time. Good luck and thank you for the great question!

To Plinker,

Thanks for noticing! The world of injection molding is an amazing and bewildering one (and it seems you have some experience in it). There are many paths that could be faster or cheaper, but at the end of the day, these options will usually cost you more anyway. We felt we had a duty to our customers to provide the best product possible and hard tooling was what that called for.

Plus, there's just nothing quite so cool as seeing a two ton block of steel with the negative of a gun cut into it as it's packed with polymer at 500 degrees under hundreds of tons of pressure. I love the smell of nylon in the morning... smells like... victory.

Thanks for the great comments and great questions gentlemen! I appreciate your time and interest!

Andy and the HTA team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: wfcwfc on May 18, 2012, 04:10:42 AM
By the way
me and about 10,000 other FS2000 owners are stoked about your grip project.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 18, 2012, 03:56:00 PM
Glad to hear that wfcwfc!

We are pretty stoked too. It's starting to take shape nicely!

I'll keep you all posted!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Mickey D on May 21, 2012, 01:50:53 PM
Andy will I need a extended magazine release or extended charging handle for my 90/22 bullpup.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on May 21, 2012, 02:57:03 PM
Since I'm stuck in time out on my main site I went ahead and signed up over here. I just got my barrel and optic I ordered in anticipation for this stock. Nice 18" threaded heavily fluted bull barrel and a Primary arms green reflex sight.

(http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/jeffco55/1a1b4add.jpg)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sgt_P on May 21, 2012, 03:03:33 PM
Nice barrel!  Looking forward to seeing the finished product!!

Welcome!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on May 21, 2012, 03:20:43 PM
welcome jeffco! i see what seems similar to a tac solution barrel but also looks like it may not be? the nurled washer behind the thread protector makes me think it may not be tac sol ? looks nice for sure 8)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 21, 2012, 06:08:50 PM
Hey Jeff, glad you could join us over here! That's a handsome barrel by the way!

Mickey,

Great question! We do recommend an extended mag release- our own  ;D

It will be coming out shortly after the 90/22 (perhaps even on the same day) and will consist of 2 parts, a release and an extension. The two part design allows the user to choose how long they want the release to be. I personally like using the extension because it makes mag changes super fast, probably faster than any 10/22 mag change to date. Our mag release also includes an integral guide rib, designed to seat mags faster in the 90/22 by guiding them into the well.

We also plan on including an extended/enhanced bolt catch which will automatically release the bolt when the charging handle is pulled. We have working protos of both and they are working perfect!

As far as an extended charging handle, you may decide you want one, but it won't be necessary since the 10/22 handle does protrude from the stock slightly and the 90/22 charging handle is functional giving you two more points to charge from (3 total).

Please let me know if that answers your questions Mickey! We appreciate your interest and consideration! Thanks,


Andy and the HTA team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on May 23, 2012, 03:08:58 PM
I want one so bad I can hardly sit still!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on May 29, 2012, 11:06:28 AM
This forum moves slow.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 29, 2012, 11:14:32 AM
Hey Jeff, Thanks for the anxiousness over our product. We're doing our best to move quickly but quality will take time.

As for the slowness of the forum-

Will someone PLEASE make an unwarranted comment about how worthless it is to shoot .22's! I know for a fact that would spark some stimulating conversation- eh Jeff?  Maybe we could invite our "tier 1" buddy to join :D



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on May 29, 2012, 11:37:50 AM
22,s are so worthless,,i dont no why i wasted the weekend shooting up a couple 550 rnd boxes thru my new zs aug conversion..it sucked so bad,,after hitting the darn 1 inch circle and the spinner targets all day it got so boring.. i need a gun thats not so accurate so i will have something else to complain about..what a boring weekend ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 29, 2012, 12:03:45 PM
Thank you for always being Johnny on the spot with the perfect comment for any situation!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gryfox23 on May 29, 2012, 12:24:00 PM
HTA,
If you'd release the kits, there would definitely be buzz!!! HURRY UP!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 29, 2012, 12:34:22 PM
Hey Greyfox!

I know we are doing everything we possibly can to hurry. There have been a few snags and that's part of what's causing the time delay- and exactly why we didn't want to pre-buy. Again we are working very hard to get these things out.

I'll post as we know more, Thanks!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sgt_P on May 29, 2012, 12:40:06 PM
This forum moves slow.

I think he means the load speed.  We're having some server issues this morning...

...  working on it ...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on May 29, 2012, 12:45:18 PM
This forum moves slow.

I think he means the load speed.  We're having some server issues this morning...

...  working on it ...

I meant more in the reply time. But it seems my last comment spurred some activity!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sgt_P on June 01, 2012, 08:09:17 AM
Understood...
2 excuses   ;D

1.  This site is still "new" with less than 500 members (and only a small percentage "talk")
2.  Bullpup's are a niche, and then when drilled down to each rifle/shotgun, it becomes a niche of a niche

But the site is growing.  And more importantly, Bullpup offerings are growing!!



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: billdit on June 01, 2012, 12:51:33 PM
Hey Jeffco...
Lets see... 4 posts in 8 days....  Speed ?  ... Yawn...  >:D

This Forum is about quality, not quantity...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on June 01, 2012, 01:48:26 PM
Hey Jeffco...
Lets see... 4 posts in 8 days....  Speed ?  ... Yawn...  >:D

This Forum is about quality, not quantity...

Without pooping in this thread I'll address that. I mainly browse on another gun forum, one dedicated to a specific black rifle. Over there the threads usually keep up with my extreme level of ADD. I tend to find something neat and then fixate on it and my latest fixation just so happens to be this High Tower stock. I was on a "time out" from my other site where I was participating in 3 High Tower specific threads, so I needed somewhere else to get my speculation in. Im certainly not insulting this site or any of its members.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: PapaJoeTx on June 04, 2012, 03:32:32 PM
Hey HTA! Any news on a Production Start Date!?!?  :popcorn


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 04, 2012, 03:38:51 PM
Hey Papa Joe,

No news sorry, we just are working out some little hickups. The hickups are almost completely logistical, lawyers, redtape, paperwork, and all the other things that make running a business fun!

I'll keep you all posted as we progress! Thanks guys!

Andy


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Ackevor on June 15, 2012, 11:13:29 AM
I figured I might put this in the main post for reference purposes since I originally posted it in a side story post.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on June 18, 2012, 08:57:23 AM
finally got around to picking up another 10/22. Got my barrel and receiver ready

(http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/jeffco55/87ef0da4.jpg)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 18, 2012, 09:35:36 AM
That is going to look sharp Jeff! Awesome barrel!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on June 18, 2012, 11:55:41 AM
That is going to look sharp Jeff! Awesome barrel!

Thanks, I'm excitedly waiting.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Ackevor on June 18, 2012, 12:35:07 PM
That is going to look sharp Jeff! Awesome barrel!

Thanks, I'm excitedly waiting.

What barrel is that? Is it from whistle pig?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on June 18, 2012, 01:51:08 PM
That is going to look sharp Jeff! Awesome barrel!

Thanks, I'm excitedly waiting.

What barrel is that? Is it from whistle pig?

From a guy over on RFC.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: puckmasterc on July 01, 2012, 11:46:21 PM
Thought while we're all waiting patiently I'd post my setup that's all ready to go.  Using the 18" M4 style barrel from Brownells and some Kidd parts.  Probably add a barrel shroud/fake suppressor like the one from Spikes Tac.  Guess it depends on how much room I got and how much modding I'd have to do to get it to work.



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: 124C41 on July 02, 2012, 03:49:28 AM
I'm looking forward to the release Andy. It looks great.

Hello Bullpup forum.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sgt_P on July 02, 2012, 07:10:39 AM
Welcome Puckmasterc!  Nice barrel!

And Hello back at 'cha, 124C41!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on July 02, 2012, 09:02:33 AM
Hey Guys!

Thanks for all the interest, compliments, and cool pics! We appreciate it!

Say Puckmaster, that barrel is not one that we will immediately have bushings for (currently it accepts both the .920 and the tapered factory barrel). I believe the contour on that is around .700". Please confirm with me what the diameter about 5 inches from the muzzle is. We could have a specialty bushing made for you and anyone else who wants an M4 barrel. Thanks!

Andy and the HTA Team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gryfox23 on July 02, 2012, 12:42:36 PM
I'd sure like to know who's arms I need to twist in order to get this stock in my hands!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: puckmasterc on July 02, 2012, 11:26:30 PM
Thanks for the welcome Sgt_P, and thanks for the response Andy.  Yeah that M4 Barrel is 18" but shortens up once mounted into the receiver. I think it just barely makes the minimum length according to your website measurements.  The M4 barrel starts at .920 at the receiver end and tapers to .877 the first 8 3/4".  Measuring the barrel from the receiver end, at 12"-12 3/4" the diameter is .610.  From 12 3/4"-15 3/4" the diameter is .741.  Is it at 13" from the receiver where the bushing is located in the stock?  Thanks for your time, its greatly appreciated.  If the barrel doesnt work out, its not too big a deal.  It just allows me to make another 10/22 mod!  I really like this barrel though.  Id also like to see one of your integrated flash hider barrels you were talking about on another forum.  Any chance youll have pics of that soon?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on July 03, 2012, 08:38:43 AM
Thanks for the info puckmaster! I'll see what I can do on the bushings. I attached an image for you of a concept drawing, it's crude but it will give you an idea of what our barrrel will look like. We have not made any as of now. I'd imagine they'll be done a few weeks after we deliver our first product, whenever that may be  ::)

I'd love to say you could twist my arm GryFox but I'm just the messenger. We will get there gentlemen, and we greatly appreciate your patience!

Andy and the HTA Team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: 124C41 on July 06, 2012, 05:53:38 PM
I'm thinking about SBR'ing it. Is there anything that would keep me from cutting off the protrusion that the fake suppressor mounts on? Is the barrel bushing located inside there?




Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on July 06, 2012, 07:02:21 PM
You certainly could cut that protrusion down (not our official position and it voids the warranty, just a heads up). The bushings do extend into that area, but they go as far back as the charging handle, so there would still be plenty of bushing left to hold the barrel. Let me know if that makes sense. Thanks!

Andy


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on July 13, 2012, 10:53:24 AM
I am anxious to get this kit.

When I traded for my 10/22, my friend threw in his cheap airsoft P90 shell that he modded. One thing that I was annoyed at is the mag release. I bought the Archangel kit and installed their extended mag release but the way in which my friend made his P90 shell, the extended mag release is hindered by the shell.

How easy or difficult will the HTA 90/22 kit allow for the rotary 10 rd mags. I live in NY so BX25s are not legal here. I rather not run the risk of using them in NY.

So that leaves me with the 10 rd factory Ruger rotary mags. How difficult will it be to remove them from your kit?

Thanks


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on July 13, 2012, 11:34:35 AM
in all my 10-22 original mag releases i drill a hole in them and thread in a screw the length you need,than take a rubber grip pad from a ink pen to surround it and it loks nice and indestructable..just an idea for ya,,same on my 22 aug and 10-22 bullpup build,they work great for any build ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sgt_P on July 13, 2012, 05:18:55 PM
x2 on what Johnny said/did...

There are a million different aftermarket parts as well.

Or you could move to South Carolina, and have whatever mags you want!!   ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: PapaJoeTx on July 13, 2012, 06:24:49 PM
Or Texas ;)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on July 13, 2012, 07:08:55 PM
or the bikini state  :popcorn


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: The Angry Jew on July 15, 2012, 06:50:22 AM
Hey all...I have to say it was my interest in the RJF stock brought me to this group, but, Andy, I have to say, it sure sounds like a lot more thought is going into the design and accuracy of your system. 
Just checking, did you say you would be making available a special bushing for the Brownells M4 style barrel.  I admit this was the first one that caught my eye, but I could go with just about any blued threaded bull as I intend to eventually suppress mine. 
As a gun owner and a sci fi geek, I am getting pretty excited about being able to own a Stargate SG1 weapon without laying out the money for a PS90.  Plus I dont have to add another caliber to my ammo shelf. 
Excited to hear about a release date and to read some hands on reviews.  Guess I better go sign up for the newsletter 


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on July 16, 2012, 09:10:59 AM
Hey Everyone! Sorry for the late reply on my end. I've been out of action since Thursday but I'm back in the saddle now! Thank you for your patience and interest in our product!! (and thank you Johnny for another awesome answer)

Great question Solscud. The 10 rounders on their own are not too difficult to insert and they remove like a dream, especially with our new release. Gravity does the work and plunks it right into your hand. We are developing our own HTA mag extenders as well. These will likely go into the upgrade package with a shell deflector and extended mag and bolt releases. It's a money thing unfortunately. We would have loved to have all this stuff ready right away, but tooling isn't cheap and we are still young. Again we appreciate your patience! If you can't wait, Johnny did have an excellent idea!

Hey Angry Jew! Thanks for all the kind words we appreciate it. We may be offering people a bushing for the M4 barrel- yes. It would be a demand question though. We would likely have them machined, not molded since there won't be the volume like our other ones, but even to make them cost effective machine-wise, we'd probably need several dozen people interested in them. Anyone else want the M4 bushing?

Also, we will be making our own barrels, as I mentioned before. One of these will be a medium contour barrel (about the same dia. as the M4, and if we can, I'll design it exact so the bushings for ours work on the M4). This barrel will be 18" with a threaded end for cans, brakes, hiders, etc. The other will be our integrally flash suppressed barrel.

Thanks again for all the awesome questions and your patience gang! Let me know if I missed anything. Thanks.

Andy and the HTA team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on July 17, 2012, 06:36:55 AM
hey andy,,it sure would be sweet if hta made it to the bullpup shoot with one of your toys
 ;)
then it would really prove itself as a capable weapon with all the publicity it would get..may even make sales sky rocket!

                                                      :Iwo


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gryfox23 on July 17, 2012, 11:54:10 AM
I'll tell you somethin else that would be sweet. If we actually had these things in our hands instead of just talkin about em.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on July 17, 2012, 05:32:01 PM
Hey Guys,

Yes- that would be awesome! I'm really sorry everyone. Things just keep coming up and are really cutting into our ETA. We're all working very hard but a lot of it is out of hands and just comes down to trial and error. Thank you for all your patience so far. It will happen eventually- just please stay with us! Thank you so much everyone!!

Andy


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gryfox23 on July 17, 2012, 08:40:07 PM
Oh I'm stayin, just rantin a little! I'm still just as anxious as the day I found out about it.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: puma1824 on August 10, 2012, 09:10:28 PM
Hope I'm not too late to sign up.  Design looks great! Tried a Muzzlelite but was very disappointed with the trigger feel, accuracy, and overall quality. I have  funds ready to go :) I'm. 100% sure I'd want the optional barrel as well Can't wait :) :)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on August 11, 2012, 03:24:47 PM
Hi Andy,

Any updates for us?  My cash is locked and loaded!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on August 13, 2012, 08:29:17 AM
Still moving along nicely Plinker, keep the cash close by- not too long to wait. The polymer is working great finally after months of tweaking to get the best blend. Now (hopefully) 1 or 2 more trial samples to make sure it works and bam, parts get made, stocks get assembled, and stocks get shipped. Thanks for being patient guys!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on August 14, 2012, 10:58:21 AM
Outstanding, Andy!  GRP is not easy to work with.  Glad you're making progress.  I can't wait to get mine!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: firebert on August 15, 2012, 05:55:46 AM
can't wait!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: 124C41 on August 16, 2012, 04:57:33 AM
Yay...  :armchair


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on August 21, 2012, 01:13:28 PM
Great I can't wait either.

Good to hear about the 10 rounders. Sucks to be in NY but it could be worse.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NHPig on August 22, 2012, 02:17:19 PM
I am beside myself waiting for the chance to order the 90/22.

 :anyone?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sgt_P on August 22, 2012, 02:40:56 PM
Welcome NHPig!!

I know that Andy is working hard on the first batch!  We should hear more soon...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Snapperhead363 on August 22, 2012, 05:06:47 PM
Welcome NHPig! I'm sure you'll find out here first!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NHPig on August 24, 2012, 05:31:04 PM
Thanks guys, glad to be on board.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on August 31, 2012, 02:55:28 PM
Lets get a little more chatter in here!!! Who else is on pins and needles waiting for this stock??!!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: BullPop on August 31, 2012, 03:28:15 PM
can't wait for something other than the muzzelite

hope its quality


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: joel4salejunk on September 05, 2012, 01:52:57 AM
After I signed up for the HTA news-letter and waiting ANXIOUSLY everyday for the big news, I started a whole ritual in preparation for the HTA's arrival.
-Bought a brand new 10/22
-Bought a bigger safe
-Bought 10 brick .22

......(Four month later)
the 10/22 that I bought previously was accidentally turned into a AR trainer, so now I have to buy another 10/22 for the HTA
Bought 2 more AR, One more AK and some random cheap rifle to fill in the safe space.  I am almost out of Rifle space again.
All 10 brick .22 round came and gone, bought another case of 10....about 4 brick left


ARE WE THERE YET?? >:(




Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on September 05, 2012, 09:41:07 AM
After I signed up for the HTA news-letter and waiting ANXIOUSLY everyday for the big news, I started a whole ritual in preparation for the HTA's arrival.
-Bought a brand new 10/22
-Bought a bigger safe
-Bought 10 brick .22

......(Four month later)
the 10/22 that I bought previously was accidentally turned into a AR trainer, so now I have to buy another 10/22 for the HTA
Bought 2 more AR, One more AK and some random cheap rifle to fill in the safe space.  I am almost out of Rifle space again.
All 10 brick .22 round came and gone, bought another case of 10....about 4 brick left

ARE WE THERE YET?? >:(


I bought a 10/22, bought a nice fluted and threaded barrel for it, bought a case of .22, and sent off a Form 1 last week. 


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on September 05, 2012, 01:02:29 PM
Hello everyone!

First off, my humble apologies and a great big thank you are in order for your patience through this project. We hope you can understand our desire to get this perfect for you all, right out of the box. We would rather apologize now for a delayed release date than apologize later for less than premium quality. It's been a long road for all of us, but one we are happy to walk down for the results we know we can achieve.

At the moment we are waiting for some of our suppliers to fill our orders- specifically the bulk shipment of polymer for the final round of molding. Once we have that, we're good to go.

Again we truly do appreciate all the interest and all your patience in waiting for our product. It certainly means a lot to know so many people are this excited about the 90/22!

Thanks again guys,

The guys at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NHPig on September 05, 2012, 03:54:49 PM
I got myself two BX-25s and a red dot scope....

If I keep salivating, I will dehydrate.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on September 05, 2012, 08:07:42 PM
I was going to get red jacket kit but read about bad customer service plus they aren't ready to ship, didn't want to order without knowing an estimated time of getting product. hTA seems solid and customer service seems great, I called like two nights ago and got a real English speaking person on the phone who actually seemed excited to help! I had already bought a barrel but wanted to find out what else I would need and was told I'd be better off Just buying a 10/22 instead of getting parts separately. So probably tomorrow I'll pick up a new ruger 10/22, nothing fancy since its going to be parts for hTA kit. Totally excited, just hope I can get one soon and that directions are dummy proof. I'm also signed up for newsletter but doesn't sound like I'll be on first run. I dunno I hope I'll luck out.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on September 05, 2012, 11:51:31 PM
After I signed up for the HTA news-letter and waiting ANXIOUSLY everyday for the big news, I started a whole ritual in preparation for the HTA's arrival.
-Bought a brand new 10/22
-Bought a bigger safe
-Bought 10 brick .22

......(Four month later)
the 10/22 that I bought previously was accidentally turned into a AR trainer, so now I have to buy another 10/22 for the HTA
Bought 2 more AR, One more AK and some random cheap rifle to fill in the safe space.  I am almost out of Rifle space again.
All 10 brick .22 round came and gone, bought another case of 10....about 4 brick left




Hahaha!  Right on!

I have my new 10/22 and am going to put some rounds through it this weekend.
I have my new wall safe to house my new 10/22.
I have a new barrel for use with my new 10/22 and the 90/22 stock.

I'm ready!  Woohoo!

Patience is a virtue, but that doesn't mean I'm not excited and looking forward to my first bullpup 22!   :excited!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on September 06, 2012, 09:18:16 AM
Hey guys! Thanks a bunch. It was great talking with you the other night Gregory! If you or anyone ever needs anything at all, we are just a phone call or email away!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on September 06, 2012, 02:58:47 PM
What are going to be the best mags to use? Reviews I've found on eagle is that they are pretty much garbage. The bx25 looks good but are a bit higher. I hear good things about butler creek but it seems not to be recommended in FAQ for the hTA kit. Suggestions for much bang?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on September 06, 2012, 03:17:11 PM
Hey Gregory- great question, thanks for writing back!

Whatever mag you choose, get one with steel feed lips. They seem to be hands down the most reliable and durable. The Butler Creek mags are definitely good, solid mags. They are reliable and fairly cheap when compared to other steel lippers like the BX25. However, as you pointed out, most have a nub on them for linking two mags together. This nub extends past the width of our stock and will thus prevent it from going completely into the mag well. There is a simple solution to this problem that we have found quite effective and it involves a saw and some sandpaper but we would never openly condone altering anyone else's product in any way ;)

We have also had decent luck with Shooter's Ridge 25 round steel lips mags and of course the BX25's as well. They are built like tanks and are really easy to break down to clean/repair, unlike most other mags whose halves are welded together. For the extra $4 or $5, you might find the reliability is worth it. Personally, I prefer the BX25's but you are going to have to decide for yourself what you want and expect from a mag. Either way, I wish you the best of luck with your purchase! Let me know if I can help or offer up any more information! Thanks Gregory,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on September 06, 2012, 06:38:55 PM
i have a small hoard of the new bx-25,s and a few good butler creek hot lips that will be run in it when its in my hands ;D tacticalinc.com has some good ones but for the price im sticking with the bx mags..i do a search when i buy stuff and i found them for 23 bucks last time,,,not sure where it was tho.
i also have a couple doomaflicky,s that hold the 3 -10 rnd mags together..there always dependable as ever..


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on September 06, 2012, 07:07:38 PM
Targetsportsusa.com has the bx25 for 22.99 right now, the cheapest I've found yet


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: puckmasterc on September 07, 2012, 08:41:26 PM
BX-25 $19.99 here:
http://www.cdnninvestments.com/ru102225blma.html

To get free shipping enter code fs99 for orders over $100 or $6.99 under $100.

I think they have a limit of 6 mags.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on September 07, 2012, 08:50:46 PM
BX-25 $19.99 here:
http://www.cdnninvestments.com/ru102225blma.html

not sure on shipping though

Sweet! I ordered 5 of them though I could've ordered 6 as that seems to be limit. They had weekend shipping option of 6.99


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on September 10, 2012, 08:39:27 PM
Ok well I picked up my ruger 10/22 Saturday. I had already ordered 18.5 inch ruger barrel so I have that extra I guess. I've ordered the five bx-25 mags. I've gotten two different scopes to try out. I've got so far one box of bullets 550 rounds. I guess now I need a chance to order the bullpup kit lol. Totally excited about the prospect.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on September 11, 2012, 09:09:17 AM
Hey Gregory! That's great to hear! I think you'll be glad you went with the stuff you did! Thanks so much for your patience guys! We really appreciate everything-

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on September 11, 2012, 03:00:46 PM
Andy, any luck getting the goods from the suppliers? Also I think you said first run would be small, not sure the number of units. Could you mention that once more, and any idea how far back I am in line since I think I'm later than many on the bandwagon? Thanks in advance


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on September 11, 2012, 03:26:00 PM
Hey Gregory and the rest of the gang!

We are having better luck- things are moving. Believe it or not, we're making progress! The good news is, we have had a pretty explosive response in demand and we appreciate that to no end! We have since increased the first production order and should be able to handle as many people as we have orders for on the first day. Thanks to everyone for your support, interest and input. It certainly means a great deal to us all!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NHPig on September 11, 2012, 04:06:36 PM
How is the extended mag release coming?  You mentioned before that you might release yours the same day as the 90/22.

I would want to know ahead of time, so I can order elsewhere if I need to.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on September 12, 2012, 08:25:48 AM
Hey NHPig, thanks for the great question!

We have the release about where it was last time. We are ready to go on tooling but tooling will be expensive and what we plan on doing is including it in the same mold that our future shell deflector will be in, along with a few other goodies. If you can last a few months without an extended mag release, I promise, you will not be disapointed by our design. If you are just looking for something in the meantime or can't wait that long, we completely understand. Thanks so much guys!


Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on September 12, 2012, 09:11:58 AM
Andy, are we looking roughly at release date sometime in December 2012? Or we looking further down the line right now? I think I saw somewhere that someone was told dec 2014, hoping that was a bad joke.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on September 12, 2012, 09:15:16 AM
Hey Gregory,

No worries- that was a bit of a tongue in cheek reference to how long it has taken to get where we are now. We are hoping the time from now to release day would best be measured in weeks, not months or years. I'll keep you posted as we know more. Thanks so much Gregory and sorry if I scared you or anyone else!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on September 12, 2012, 09:23:22 AM
Hey Gregory,

No worries- that was a bit of a tongue in cheek reference to how long it has taken to get where we are now. We are hoping the time from now to release day would best be measured in weeks, not months or years. I'll keep you posted as we know more. Thanks so much Gregory and sorry if I scared you or anyone else!

Andy and the team at HTA


 :o


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NHPig on September 12, 2012, 01:39:16 PM
Hey NHPig, thanks for the great question!

We have the release about where it was last time. We are ready to go on tooling but tooling will be expensive and what we plan on doing is including it in the same mold that our future shell deflector will be in, along with a few other goodies. If you can last a few months without an extended mag release, I promise, you will not be disapointed by our design. If you are just looking for something in the meantime or can't wait that long, we completely understand. Thanks so much guys!


Andy and the team at HTA

Perhaps I missed it elsewhere in the thread.  I can get by WITHOUT an extended mag release?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on September 12, 2012, 02:08:31 PM
Hey NHPig,

You sure can get by with the factory one, and most aftermarket versions for that matter. It just requires you reach into the stock a little bit to get at it. We've left plenty of room to do so. Our release, when it comes out, is designed to fit seamlessly with our stock, giving it a nice consistent look and above all, functionality that cannot be matched by using another after market design. Ours is specifically 90/22 oriented. Current designs are a one-size-fits-all solution for any and all 10/22 kits. For the best possible look and feel from a release in our stock, I'd advise waiting just a bit longer. Thanks for the great question NHPig!

Andy and the gang at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on September 13, 2012, 12:32:00 PM
Ok so today I got my 5 ruger bx-25 mags delivered to me and they put in there free a pair of black and decker safety glasses. Cool I thought


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on September 13, 2012, 03:04:32 PM
Congrats Gregory! Free stuff is always a plus! I hope you enjoy the mags very much! We think the BX's are fabulous and we are confident you will feel the same. Now all you need is the stock! Thanks so much Gregory-

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on September 22, 2012, 04:55:58 PM
Just checking in here. Any news or anything exciting happening over at HTA?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NHPig on September 23, 2012, 04:05:23 PM
Special Pre-Pre-Order for Bullpupforum.com members!!!!     >:D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on September 23, 2012, 04:27:51 PM
Lol Pig. Is that a wish or statement of fact? I'd like it to be true :)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NHPig on September 23, 2012, 06:00:42 PM
Wish /  Power of Suggestion !


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on September 24, 2012, 08:05:56 AM
Hey guys! Sorry still no pre-buy. Although I must admit, we are very grateful for your willingness to pay before we fill your order! It comes as quite a compliment that you trust us enough! But if it's all the same, we'd prefer to let you guys keep your money until we're ready to ship. No sense having it tied up with us. Plus, we ordered enough, due to demand, for everyone to get one who is on our mailing list and then some. Thank you guys again for your interest and patience- it means a lot!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NHPig on September 24, 2012, 11:26:13 AM
If I have mine in hand by my department's fall qualification, I am sure I will sell at least a couple for you!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on September 24, 2012, 12:13:44 PM
You da man Pig! We appreciate it very much and will work very hard to have it to you in time!

Andy


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on September 27, 2012, 04:15:12 PM
I think the stock should have a special badge or something marked for bullpup forum buyers. Might be cool.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on September 27, 2012, 07:26:42 PM
I think the stock should have a special badge or something marked for bullpup forum buyers. Might be cool.

I'm all for that idea!  However, what you suggest would be very expensive as it would require a new insert, requiring changes to the injection mold and creation of the insert.  There go first year's profits!   :ST0P!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on September 27, 2012, 07:41:54 PM
Hehe, could just be stamped into it or something engraved. At this point I'd settle for just the kit itself lol. Looking forward to it.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on September 28, 2012, 11:56:12 PM
I like my ruger I bought for this kit I might have to get another just to keep stock. Will Santa be delivering this kit to me for this Xmas? I'm hoping so!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Partyboy6.7 on September 29, 2012, 09:09:19 PM
WE CAN'T WAIT AND SO EXCITED SO SEE THE STOCK IN OUR 10/22'S ;D..


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Partyboy6.7 on September 30, 2012, 08:10:32 AM
hi Andy ... hey guys may i suggest if you guys can add on the design is a mount  or tap drill for a brass catcher ...

cant wait on than sign "Coming soon" to change into "Buy it now" LOL ;D






                                                 thankyou
                                                       -ernie-















Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on September 30, 2012, 01:30:00 PM
Hey guys!

Thanks so much for all the buzz- yes unfortunately a new insert to the mold would be expensive but if there was enough demand and we could get permission for the rights, we could offer custom engraved BPF editions. That would look pretty sweet!  :o

Thanks for the great suggestion Ernie! We appreciate it!

We will eventually include a shell deflector that could have a detachable bag option. Any demand for something like that out there anyone? We'll obviously have a shell deflector for the lefties but only a few people have asked for a bag or box to catch and store the brass. I actually like the idea. It's a nice way to keep the area you're shooting in clean and helps prevent hitting your buddies with spent brass.

Either way, the shell deflector/brass catcher will definitely attach intuitively to our stock to help keep assembly to a minimum. It will likely snap in under the ammo storage box- no tools required and very quick removal for storage/right hand use.

Again, please let us know what you guys want to see! Thanks so much guys- we really appreciate it.

Andy and the team at HTA



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gryfox23 on September 30, 2012, 08:08:25 PM
Hey guys!

Thanks so much for all the buzz- yes unfortunately a new insert to the mold would be expensive but if there was enough demand and we could get permission for the rights, we could offer custom engraved BPF editions. That would look pretty sweet!  :o

Thanks for the great suggestion Ernie! We appreciate it!

We will eventually include a shell deflector that could have a detachable bag option. Any demand for something like that out there anyone? We'll obviously have a shell deflector for the lefties but only a few people have asked for a bag or box to catch and store the brass. I actually like the idea. It's a nice way to keep the area you're shooting in clean and helps prevent hitting your buddies with spent brass.

Either way, the shell deflector/brass catcher will definitely attach intuitively to our stock to help keep assembly to a minimum. It will likely snap in under the ammo storage box- no tools required and very quick removal for storage/right hand use.

Again, please let us know what you guys want to see! Thanks so much guys- we really appreciate it.

Andy and the team at HTAill tell you what I'd like to see. I'd like to see this thing in a box on my doorstep tomorrow!




Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: punisher12b on October 02, 2012, 06:24:39 PM
O THE WAIT ...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NHPig on October 03, 2012, 12:39:01 PM
Fall Qualifications were just posted, October 18th & 20th.

No pressure Andy!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NativeNinja747 on October 03, 2012, 02:32:57 PM
Was almost to finalize payment on the Red Jacket version of this today when I decided to do more research and discovered you guys! Much rather support the little guy and get a cheaper price even if I have to wait a little longer. Don't make me wait too long though  ;) I'm pretty antsy! Can't wait to have this in my hands


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: punisher12b on October 03, 2012, 02:37:57 PM
Actually wait time will be less on the H T A if you order from red jacket now the expected delivery time is May


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NativeNinja747 on October 03, 2012, 02:47:14 PM
Really? Well even more reason to not support the big a-hole company. I'm behind ya HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on October 03, 2012, 03:11:13 PM
Hey Everyone!

Wow thanks so much for the buzz guys- we are definitely little but we know that is not a sufficient excuse for the delays. We are very sorry and we are trying our best but stuff seems to come up on project such as this. We are confident the delays are nearly all worked out and now it is a matter of production. We hope it isn't more than 1-2 months. Hopefully less. We promise as soon as we are ready, and I mean the second we are ready, you will all know.

We can't begin to thank you all for your interest, for your patience, and for your support of our little establishment. It certainly means a great deal and we hope our product and our service is deemed worthy of everything you guys have done and said! Thanks a million,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NHPig on October 03, 2012, 03:29:33 PM
We hope it isn't more than 1-2 months

I thought you threw around the word "October" and "measured in weeks, not months" when speaking around September.

No offense, but this isn't very good news.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: punisher12b on October 03, 2012, 03:32:57 PM
I just got off the phone with Andy / HTA a little while ago and the time and service that I believe he provides is and will continue to be of the highest caliber while they are both nice looking weapons the personal attention that Andy is willing to give each and every customer is without equal..
I eagerly await news.  :popcorn



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NativeNinja747 on October 03, 2012, 03:54:21 PM
I know it sucks waiting but I would rather wait and have a solid product that you are proud of then to have it rushed and then there be issues :--*


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on October 03, 2012, 04:01:40 PM
Hey NHPig- ya, sorry, we thought so too. I'm just relaying to you what my supply guys are telling me. We have admittedly been found guilty of optimism. It seems like everything always costs a little more and takes a little longer than it should on paper. We're very sorry for all the delays and again, the second we feel these are ready, you'll know! Thanks so much guys! We appreciate the compliment punisher- it was a pleasure talking with you today!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Partyboy6.7 on October 04, 2012, 12:04:47 AM
GO HTA  ....!!!WE SUPPORT YOU ..EAGER TO HAVE IT IN MY HANDS AND TURN MY 10/22 INTO A PDW ...and have the Grip onto it TACTICAL STYLE.... :--* :--* :--*


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: 9baller on October 05, 2012, 02:58:31 AM
Hi Andy, is there any chance that we could see a video or perhaps more pictures? maybe of the barrels you will be selling? thanks


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on October 14, 2012, 09:19:32 AM
I have to say I joined this forum just to say I am very interested in one of these stocks. In fact I plan on asking for one for Christmas if it's available by then. I have a few questions though first:
1) Do you guys have any idea on the stock levels based on the level of interest you've received, you're not going to run out in a day are you?

2) This whole debate with a long enough barrel is tough because I plan on registering for a suppressor and wanted the ruger 10/22 barrel that is already threaded but it is 16.5" stock length. I could find a barrel online that would work but it seems like the only ones that are threaded are the bull barrels and I'm not sure I want to spend the money on it. The reason is because further down the road I want to register for a Thompson Machine integrally suppressed 10/22 barrel but again the problem is it is 16.5". So the 2" buttstock addition would be greatly  beneficial. my question is if I get the first generation stock your making will it be possible to add a butt stock that you said you would look into making? If not is there anyway to permanently attach a butt stock from another company?

3)I really like the idea of a shell deflector and was wondering if the future shell deflector you mentioned would be able to be attached to the first generation stock? My wife is lefty and she would love this if it had the deflector.

You guys seem to have the perfect design and I can't wait for it to come out and get an optic for it!
Thanks for your help!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: punisher12b on October 14, 2012, 07:52:12 PM
some of us have opitcs , and triggers ready  ... TAPs FOOT impaitently


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on October 15, 2012, 10:59:58 AM
Hey Guys!

Thanks so much for your interest and of course your patience. We know there is a lot of foot tapping going on and we are VERY sorry about the wait. We are tapping our feet too :(

I'll try to answer some of the questions that were brought up!

Baller:

We should be fine on stock levels for a little bit. We actually upped our first run to cover the demand we've been experiencing. There may be a small delay (a week or 2 at most) for some buyers who show up late to the first order party because, although we may have the inventory, we still need to assemble, box, ship, log, etc, etc the remaining inventory. If the first batch goes really fast, we may need a little bit of time to recover and restock, but at least all the inventory will be in our facility and ready.

We may in later variants offer a butt pad option that will count towards overall length. You certainly could buy an aftermarket version somewhere and as long as it's a permanent fix, it would count towards overall length. It really doesn't matter to the ATF how you make the gun longer, as long as the change is one that is not easily removable i.e. welded, pinned, glued and screwed, and so on.

Shell deflector, extended bolt catch, extended mag release and bi-mag coupler kit is coming soon (shortly after the release of the 90/22). A newsletter alert will go out when that happens so make sure you're signed up if you haven't already!

A video will be coming out shortly before the release of the 90/22. We don't want to keep any more people waiting than what we have already... sorry again guys. We are working very hard and we want these to be perfect for you all. Until then, we'll keep the faith and fight the good fight.

Cheers gang!

Andy and the team at HTA



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on October 16, 2012, 08:09:15 PM
Good to know, where do you sign up for the newsletter? I couldn't find it on your site. I guess my only remaining question is those upgrades and other options like the butt stock, bullet deflector etc. Will they be compatible with the first generation release of the 90/22?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on October 17, 2012, 10:19:10 AM
Hey hyrule! Thanks for the great questions!

The newsletter is in the bottom right hand corner of the site on all pages- so be sure to sign up! And yes, we will make all parts first gen compatible. The one exception might be the butt pad, since it will take quite a bit of integration to get it to fit. We could make a slip on version but that would not count toward OAL so it's applications would be limited.

Thanks so much Hyrule and please let me know if I can do or answer anything else for you in the future!

Andy and the gang at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on October 18, 2012, 01:55:28 PM
Hi Andy, I love that you are on top of things. I am not going to harass you about release date specifically or rather a specific date but do you estimate at this point we might possibly have them by this christmas? Or do you think it now may be sometime after new years? Thanks :)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Triggerpull? on October 19, 2012, 07:56:07 AM
Hello again Andy

I've been randomly checking this forum to keep up to date on how the production
Was going. I hope things are coming together for you. I found out about you guys
In may and thought I was late to the party, but I guess that hasn't been the case!
Haha anyway I had a question that was asked a few months ago, but wasn't sure
What you guys decided. Will the stock be offered in any color other than black?
(OD, FDE, etc) thanks for the reply in advance hope to hear from you soon have
A good one


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on October 19, 2012, 10:18:20 AM
Hey Triggerpull! Thanks for the great question.

You are not late at all! No one is ever late to this party- except maybe the host...

We apologize profusely for all the delays. We aren't just twiddling our thumbs here and we hope you all know that! Products can be a lot of work to develop. Thanks so much for your patience!

We are likely doing at least one other color on the first run. The big question is how the parts will look when they come out. A lot of times the colored polymers don't look as nice as straight black- you can start to see any inconsistencies or the "grain" of the fill materials in the part. We are working very hard to get nice consistent colors so both OD and FDE look as good as black!

Thanks so much for your time and interest Triggerpull!! We appreciate it!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on October 20, 2012, 12:19:50 PM
Hey Greg!

A million apologies are due to you. I'm very sorry I got notified of a reply on the board here but there were two replies not just Triggerpull's- very sorry I missed you! Thanks for the question by the way and for following up!

We hope to have these to you all well before Christmas but we were thinking we'd have these to you well before fall. I unfortunately just cannot say for certain. We really do hope so. We're doing our darndest to get these out soon! Sometime in 2012 is reasonable but there is always the unexpected...

Thanks so much for your patience Greg- we appreciate it and hope to have something to you all soon!

Andy and the team at HTA



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NativeNinja747 on October 26, 2012, 04:43:26 PM
Allll I want for xmas is my HTA 90/22.. :( Or Thanksgiving...or Halloween would be better?.. I even had a dream about it last night.. Waiting, waiting..


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on October 26, 2012, 05:16:49 PM
Allll I want for xmas is my HTA 90/22.. :( Or Thanksgiving...or Halloween would be better?.. I even had a dream about it last night.. Waiting, waiting..


since its halloween time and all I can picture us all as zombies surrounding the HTA facility moaning buulllllpuuppp lol


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Partyboy6.7 on October 27, 2012, 12:25:13 AM
can't wait to hold that 90/22 ,hold it tightly on a tactical position and just empty magazine 1 to another.......and feel it's  :--* :--*recoil on my cheek


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NativeNinja747 on October 27, 2012, 08:20:43 AM
Gregory, that is hilarious and actually about realistically spot on!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on October 31, 2012, 07:48:41 PM
Andy, just wanted to check in with you to see how production or lack of is going? Basically just like to hear from the source how everything is actually going and how things tand right now. Also to everyone....happy Halloween !


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on November 02, 2012, 09:20:20 AM
Hey Gregory! (and all our patient future-customers)

Happy belated Halloween to you too! Thanks for checking in! Everything is coming along nicely. We've had setback after setback... bad material, out of spec parts, broken tools, etc etc. We are finally approaching the point where nothing else is left to go wrong haha. Some new 90/22 parts were made for testing recently and they are looking awesome!! We really appreciate your patience and interest everyone. We know the wait is not easy but it definitely is not a vacation for us here. Keep in mind this has been underway long before anyone knew about it- we didn't want to release any info until it was ready but RJF kinda stole the show so we had to play ball too. Everyone here at HTA feels bad for making you all wait, but we would all feel 100 times worse if we didn't take this time and rushed the 90/22 to market. We want to be around years to come to develop and release new products, and to do that means we need a good name in this industry. In this business a reputation is everything, as you all know. Our reputation for quality and customer service is paramount in our minds.

Thanks so much Gregory, and all our faithful followers! Your interest, patience, and understanding mean the world to us! We can't wait to hear what you all think!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on November 02, 2012, 03:31:39 PM
Well said, Andy.  To be honest, RJF is the reason why I found you.  They piqued my interest with Joe's design on the show, and I hunted down info on them as well as other bullpups for the 10/22 (of which there are few).  You announced early enough, and RJF's responses stumbled enough, that I did not feel any internal loyalty to them that prevented me from giving your product serious consideration. 

RJF did a decent job of pointing out on their thread that it's not just the stocks themselves, but the whole assembly line, including shipping, that has to be figured out once there is some volume of stocks on hand.  That's no small task for anyone doing production work for the first time.  I'm sure that you [are/will be] facing similar challenges.

I look forward to the day I can purchase.  Funds are standing by...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on November 04, 2012, 10:00:31 AM
Sounds good Plinker- thank you so much! It really does mean a lot to us. And I am sure mass production will be a challenge for us too. Fortunately we should have enough for everyone who signs up for our newsletter. Thanks again everyone!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on November 07, 2012, 06:03:13 PM
Dont everyone all hate me at once but..... I was able to put my eyes on one of these stocks today and from what I can tell its going to be a winner. One of the things about these stocks, both HTA and RJF, that I was concerned with was the smoothness of the finish. Looking at the up close pics of the RJF stock it looks like it has a rougher finish similar to a kydex finish. From what I could tell of the HTA stock its extremely similar to the FN level of smoothness. I'll be better able to evaluate both when they are in my hands obviously but just according to my eyeballs this is what I've noticed. There are a few other differences that are immediately noticeable but I'm not sure what I can divulge, lets just say that several of the internal parts of the HTA stock look much, much beefier than corresponding parts that have been shown of the RJF stock. I am on the list for both stocks and I'm anxious to get them and really hash out the differences then.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on November 07, 2012, 06:10:20 PM
That's cool Jeff. I'm still hoping I can get one for Xmas or even New Years maybe. If not I guess I'll just wait lol.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on November 07, 2012, 06:39:36 PM
Hey HTA! Is there any chance that we can get a video of one of your test stocks you've been working with? A teaser if you would?  ;D  Just a thought   ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Zombie_killer_92 on November 12, 2012, 11:40:13 AM
Yeah HTA! Give us something. Updates on progress and what you're actually doing, more pictures, videos, or preview. Do you guys have any eta? Will this be in my hands before 2012, 2012? I'm sure you guys are working and not fing around, but we're dying out here! Lol

Thanks guys


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on November 13, 2012, 12:20:16 PM
Hey Gang-

Let me see what I can do.... I'll try to get something together for the guys on BPF. Thanks for your patience,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: dhawkins on November 19, 2012, 01:41:26 PM
Looking forward to getting this stock as well. Quick question: will the chassis accept 10/22 aftermarket triggers such as KIDD (the trigger guard is a bit wider than stock). As an FYI - I had to do some mods on my Bunting bullpup to accomodate the KIDD trigger guard.
 
Thanks from a big bullpup fan.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NativeNinja747 on November 21, 2012, 03:06:37 PM
Is it sad that I check the forum every day in hopes that I will see rejoicing claims of "just ordered mine!" and so forth?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sgt_P on November 21, 2012, 04:40:35 PM
Is it sad that I check the forum every day in hopes that I will see rejoicing claims of "just ordered mine!" and so forth?

Think of how sad you'd be if you didn't check, and they got sold-out without you knowing!!

 ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on November 21, 2012, 11:34:17 PM
Is it sad that I check the forum every day in hopes that I will see rejoicing claims of "just ordered mine!" and so forth?

Think of how sad you'd be if you didn't check, and they got sold-out without you knowing!!

 ;D
Hear, hear!!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: 124C41 on November 26, 2012, 06:12:24 AM
Are we gettin close Andy? The Zombie Apocalypse er.... Christmas... is right around the corner.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NHPig on December 04, 2012, 05:34:11 PM
Lotta buzz one thread up on Red Jacket.... not so much here....  :-(


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: puckmasterc on December 09, 2012, 11:21:14 PM
Any more updates?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on December 09, 2012, 11:31:36 PM
It has been almost a month now with little activity here and no new news from hTA, I'm still waiting somewhat patiently and I'm sure the rest are waiting as well, but I would appreciate some type of chime in with status update. Andy please chime in when you can spare a moment. Thanks


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NativeNinja747 on December 10, 2012, 04:18:11 PM
I really would like to get this before Xmas and considering HTA said way back in April that it would only be a couple months makes me very skeptical that that's going to happen unless I go w/ the Red Jacket version... I really don't want to do that..Sooo, talk me out of it guys


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on December 10, 2012, 04:26:21 PM
now you no you will buy both as soon as you can.. ;D

lets take the bullpupunlimited.com  rem 870 stock..i wish i had waited,but i will still have one someday..now there out and better than ever.. ;)

if the wait is killing ya build something to pass the time,,you could be the next bullpup prototype builder on the block 8)



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: 124C41 on December 11, 2012, 04:20:24 AM
If Andy builds it I will buy, not nearly as interested in the Red Jacket stock. P90 style 10\22 just more interesting.

Hope Andy pops up soon.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on December 14, 2012, 04:16:16 PM
Hey gang!!!

Sorry it's been so long- I apologize for everything but thank you sooo much for bearing with us!

We are getting close now- final parts are being made this week and next. Desert tan (a tad lighter than Magpul FDE but still comparable) and OD green are on there way as well. Here is a pic of the tan model. Be sure to sign up for our newsletter! Spots are filling up quick!

Thanks so much guys! We appreciate everything!


Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on December 14, 2012, 04:25:51 PM
andy,,i been silent a while,,you are da,man ;)  this looks like a replica,,outstanding 8)
are yall gonna go in order of the time we signed up for the news letter,or ?
can you show some inside shots of the halves :o
hope i can afford it when the time comes.. :)

boy,i shoulda waited to put up the "bullpup ideas for complete idiots at a later time..
the bullpupforum front page will be lit up now,,and glowing ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Snapperhead363 on December 14, 2012, 04:30:30 PM
I like the tan! ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on December 14, 2012, 04:36:12 PM
Johnny!!!! I've missed you man how is everything going?

Sorry if I stole any thunder- I'm making a recommendation that everyone go check out Johnny9's thread immediately after reading this!

We will try to get as close to "in order" as possible but it is really up to each customer to be a little hasty when we go hot with these. Our website just isn't programmed to make the distinction between the order of newsletter sign up and purchase priority. What we may do to ensure the people on the list get one is have them send checks or money orders to us ahead of time. Only the people on the newsletter will know when and where to send the money since only they will be privy to that information. So if you get something like that from us, it's in your best interest not to go blabbing about it haha- at least not until you have yours- then you should tell everyone!

Thanks again for everything Johnny, and all the bullpupforum users. You have all truly been a blessing this year for our humble little company. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on December 14, 2012, 04:38:06 PM
Thanks Snapper!! We appreciate it. If you guys could all give us a quick heads up on what color you would want, that would be awesome. We are planning on making up mostly black with some tan and a little OD. We'll try to plan around the headcount we get here. Lemme know! Thanks!!

Andy and the gang


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Snapperhead363 on December 14, 2012, 04:42:28 PM
1 tan here!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on December 14, 2012, 04:49:53 PM
ohyeah ,tan is sweet,,depending maybe a green too!

this thread and others are much more important than my redneck engineering  ;)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on December 14, 2012, 04:51:12 PM
Unless you paint one a pretty blue or something.... Ill stick with back.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on December 14, 2012, 05:44:13 PM
tan


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on December 14, 2012, 06:51:50 PM
Pretty sure I'll be black (you just don't go back!), but I'd be interested to see the OD green...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on December 14, 2012, 07:29:34 PM
Thanks for all the input guys! (I'm not sure what they say about going black ;)) Good to know everyone, thanks so much! OD green pics coming soon...

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Mickey D on December 14, 2012, 07:46:12 PM
 I like the tan. Thanks Andy


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on December 14, 2012, 08:10:42 PM
Hey Mickey!

Awesome- thanks for the input. It's starting to look like we should make more tan than black haha. We tend to think the black fans are something of a silent majority though. Just good to know we won't be sitting on hundreds of the wrong color stock or something. Thanks again guys!

Andy


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on December 14, 2012, 08:18:32 PM
Hey gang!!!

Sorry it's been so long- I apologize for everything but thank you sooo much for bearing with us!

We are getting close now- final parts are being made this week and next. Desert tan (a tad lighter than Magpul FDE but still comparable) and OD green are on there way as well. Here is a pic of the tan model. Be sure to sign up for our newsletter! Spots are filling up quick!

Thanks so much guys! We appreciate everything!


Andy and the team


Do I see the mag release in that pic? Is that a standard part at this point or is it still an add on?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: TDunn on December 14, 2012, 11:30:34 PM
OD would be nice!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on December 15, 2012, 12:02:17 AM
Very astute of you Jeff- indeed it is the mag release! This is a prototype so it will not be standard unfortunately. Sorry! Tooling for it was pretty expensive and we have some other bills to cover before we move on to another project. HOWEVER- we will be making it available very soon after the release of our 90/22 and it will be a relatively affordable kit. It will come also with an extended automatic bolt release and probably a shell deflector for our lefty users. Again we are very sorry couldn't include it but we feel it will be worth the wait. Just to recap- the mag release comes with a removable riser, giving it 2 positions to choose from, long and short. The one in the pic is the long version (the riser is installed). If the riser were not installed, the the release would be just out of sight in the slightly recessed area of the mag well. Both lengths have deep grooves for excellent grip in all conditions. As I have stated before, we believe this release is probably one of the fastest ever made for the 10/22. It allows the release process to be made in one simple motion with one hand. The bolt catch lever that will be included is also an excellent part. It features both an extended ergonomic "pedal" design as well as an automatic release contour for rapid chambering of rounds when held open. We don't have a price yet but again, it should be pretty affordable. We wanted to include for you all but we're just too small right now. We appreciate all your support and patience guys! Thanks!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: 124C41 on December 16, 2012, 02:53:27 AM
I'd prefer black, but I could do tan if that's what was in stock.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on December 18, 2012, 02:59:59 AM
I prefer the black as well. 

I originally wanted the ZK-22, but the more I look at and compare them.  I think the HTA is a better stock.  However, I may end up ordering the ZK because it looks like they are actually ready to start shipping. 

Any Idea how much longer until your ready to start shipping Andy?  Have to admit I'm a little worried  about what a new  ban would mean for replacement stocks.  Which is why I want to place and order ASAP...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on December 18, 2012, 11:42:28 AM
Good to know and we appreciate the kind words- thanks Mavrick! We aren't long out now at all... I'd call it the home stretch. Please bear with us- it will be worth it. These should be going out sometime in January or possibly before. Thank you so much!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on December 19, 2012, 08:27:16 AM
What and where is this "Johnny9's thread"?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on December 19, 2012, 08:29:08 AM
the redneck bullpup is located in all other bullpup rifles,,and the bottom of my signature i think 8)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on December 19, 2012, 10:41:44 AM
Thanks Johnny!

Johnny has some awesome stuff- make sure you all check it out!

Here is OD green for those of you who haven't seen it. Thanks!

Andy and the team at HTA











Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on December 19, 2012, 11:12:02 AM
Thanks Johnny!

Johnny has some awesome stuff- make sure you all check it out!

Here is OD green for those of you who haven't seen it. Thanks!

Andy and the team at HTA



I seriously think I like OD better than tan.








Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on December 19, 2012, 11:16:03 AM
Hey Jeff!

Then I guess I better tell them to make more OD haha! We have actually been getting a pretty big reaction for the OD on our facebook page (as you know) so maybe OD will be a bigger seller than tan after all. Just keep the comments rolling guys and we'll plan accordingly. Thanks so much Jeff!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: wfcwfc on December 19, 2012, 11:21:16 AM
Hi Andy
How about more information on your website for those of us that have nothing to do with facebook?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: wfcwfc on December 19, 2012, 11:22:44 AM
What and where is this "Johnny9's thread"?

This.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sgt_P on December 19, 2012, 11:29:02 AM
What and where is this "Johnny9's thread"?

This.

http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=1479.0 (http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=1479.0)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NativeNinja747 on December 19, 2012, 01:15:50 PM
we have a ban on the horizon folks...HTA I'd really like this before then..


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on December 19, 2012, 02:30:58 PM
thanks andy,,the green stock is a game changer imo..if i can get one i will want green also ;)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on December 19, 2012, 09:15:28 PM
A ban most likely but there is no way this will be included. It's not a firearm at all. It's just a stock. It is, the way it's sold incapable in anyway shape or form of firing any ammunition. It's the Ruger 10/22s that we have to worry about.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on December 20, 2012, 07:24:31 AM
proud to have a load of the new bx mags and some oldies that still work.. ;D
proud to be american too   8)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on December 20, 2012, 08:38:23 AM
Did we hear if the drum mag for the 10/22 will work with this? Only because I may get one if it does before it's too late.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on December 20, 2012, 09:19:32 AM
while i have no real idea,,id bet money you wont be using the drum mag in the hta or zk stocks..think about it..if the 10rnd mag is swallowed by the type of stock,theres no way the drums will work unless someone comes up with a working drum mag exstention ;D
 ;Dbut youd better start buying bx5 mags and such now as there going going gone very fast the past 2 days.. :'(


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on December 20, 2012, 11:53:15 AM
while i have no real idea,,id bet money you wont be using the drum mag in the hta or zk stocks..think about it..if the 10rnd mag is swallowed by the type of stock,theres no way the drums will work unless someone comes up with a working drum mag exstention ;D
 ;Dbut youd better start buying bx5 mags and such now as there going going gone very fast the past 2 days.. :'(
I'd guess that some creative modification of the stock will allow use of wide mags like drums and tri-mags.  Don't know for sure, yet, but we'll all find out soon!    :cheerleader


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on December 20, 2012, 12:28:19 PM
I actually went ahead and ordered several 25 round magazines from tactical innovations just in case along with a couple M&P 15-22 mags. I heard they are the best so we'll see.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on December 20, 2012, 01:08:27 PM
Hey Gang!

Thanks for all the thoughtful discussion! First off, the 90/22 was not designed to take 50 round drums- sorry guys. We just felt that for the reliability concerns drums seem to have and the uncomfortable fit of a drum in a bullpup design, it was worth maintaining a certain look for the people who wanted it. As Plinker pointed out, a little creative modification should allow for it to be used but that is not our official position of course and furthermore, we know that you gun guys would NEVER do anything against the manufacturers suggestions or alter a product in anyway...  ;) Again, we felt that two 25 round mags that worked all the time was better than one 50 round mag that works most of the time.

Let me start this next section by saying that at HTA, all of our collective hearts and minds and prayers go out to the victims and their families of the recent shootings. We cannot begin to imagine how painful and how difficult moving forward will be after these tragic events. No words or laws can ever atone for their loss but we nonetheless offer our sincere condolences with whatever feeble capacity they may possess to bring some solace to those affected.

Having said that, it is important that these tragedies do not lead to another. It is important that we all as firearm owners and enthusiasts, stand united against both gun violence and any attempt to take away the rights of ourselves or our fellow citizens. If they divide us, they can conquer us. Even those of you who do not own or necessarily believe in the rights of citizens to own "assault rifles," consider that the next thing an encroaching government will come after is your hunting rifle or shotgun. We will all one day be affected by this sort of ban and there are dozens of countries that can attest to that fact.

As for the potential ban, it probably won't affect HTA immediately or directly, HOWEVER...

The Obama Administration has set up a task force to investigate laws that work and laws that don't. Clearly the strict laws in Connecticut didn't, so this appears to be somewhat of an exercise in futility. They undoubtedly will look to other countries who have had success with gun control laws, which we all know is a farce. The mental state of a country seems to be a far bigger indicator of crime, so we say let's all try to value life and liberty more instead of devaluing firearms. They may look to our neighbor to the north, Canada for instance, who currently bans the sale of removable bullpup stocks. Frankly we just don't know for sure what a new ban could entail and are a little unsettled about it. Beyond that, we want to eventually expand into other markets and even a ban that left the 90/22 out of it means HTA will stay in a very small niche for quite some time.

We apologize for this post getting a little more political than companies (and we) are normally supposed to get, but this is our livelihood, and the livelihood of thousands and thousands of other Americans. If we lose this fight, it won't be long before we lose the little that remains. Take the time to write your congressperson- tell them where you stand on the issue. If nothing else, take the time today to educate a friend or acquaintance on both the facts and importance of firearm ownership.

Thanks so much for everything guys! We really appreciate it!

Andy and the team at HTA





Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on December 20, 2012, 01:37:07 PM
^^^ WELL PUT! ^^^


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on December 20, 2012, 01:59:26 PM
Thanks hyrule- we're pretty passionate about this issue- maybe you could tell?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on December 20, 2012, 02:40:27 PM
Hey Gang!

Thanks for all the thoughtful discussion! First off, the 90/22 was not designed to take 50 round drums- sorry guys. We just felt that for the reliability concerns drums seem to have and the uncomfortable fit of a drum in a bullpup design, it was worth maintaining a certain look for the people who wanted it. As Plinker pointed out, a little creative modification should allow for it to be used but that is not our official position of course and furthermore, we know that you gun guys would NEVER do anything against the manufacturers suggestions or alter a product in anyway...  ;) Again, we felt that two 25 round mags that worked all the time was better than one 50 round mag that works most of the time.

Let me start this next section by saying that at HTA, all of our collective hearts and minds and prayers go out to the victims and their families of the recent shootings. We cannot begin to imagine how painful and how difficult moving forward will be after these tragic events. No words or laws can ever atone for their loss but we nonetheless offer our sincere condolences with whatever feeble capacity they may possess to bring some solace to those affected.

Having said that, it is important that these tragedies do not lead to another. It is important that we all as firearm owners and enthusiasts, stand united against both gun violence and any attempt to take away the rights of ourselves or our fellow citizens. If they divide us, they can conquer us. Even those of you who do not own or necessarily believe in the rights of citizens to own "assault rifles," consider that the next thing an encroaching government will come after is your hunting rifle or shotgun. We will all one day be affected by this sort of ban and there are dozens of countries that can attest to that fact.

As for the potential ban, it probably won't affect HTA immediately or directly, HOWEVER...

The Obama Administration has set up a task force to investigate laws that work and laws that don't. Clearly the strict laws in Connecticut didn't, so this appears to be somewhat of an exercise in futility. They undoubtedly will look to other countries who have had success with gun control laws, which we all know is a farce. The mental state of a country seems to be a far bigger indicator of crime, so we say let's all try to value life and liberty more instead of devaluing firearms. They may look to our neighbor to the north, Canada for instance, who currently bans the sale of removable bullpup stocks. Frankly we just don't know for sure what a new ban could entail and are a little unsettled about it. Beyond that, we want to eventually expand into other markets and even a ban that left the 90/22 out of it means HTA will stay in a very small niche for quite some time.

We apologize for this post getting a little more political than companies (and we) are normally supposed to get, but this is our livelihood, and the livelihood of thousands and thousands of other Americans. If we lose this fight, it won't be long before we lose the little that remains. Take the time to write your congressperson- tell them where you stand on the issue. If nothing else, take the time today to educate a friend or acquaintance on both the facts and importance of firearm ownership.

Thanks so much for everything guys! We really appreciate it!

Andy and the team at HTA





Hear, hear!!!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on December 20, 2012, 03:22:05 PM
perfectly said  ;) and in the first line..i forgot,when i tried my drum mag in any 1022 pups i never used them,,no poss way to get around that big thing,haha
id rather stick with all 25 rounders,, drums are fun to play with,but not in a 1022 to protect you guys from the walking dead ;D

the 10 rnd mags should be a easy mod for those wanting to use them,,epoxy and half a ar mag would look like a fs200090 ;D  not my style tho..you could always use some pickets from your wood deck for the cheap diy,ers  :investigate


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NativeNinja747 on December 20, 2012, 04:23:11 PM
A ban most likely but there is no way this will be included. It's not a firearm at all. It's just a stock. It is, the way it's sold incapable in anyway shape or form of firing any ammunition. It's the Ruger 10/22s that we have to worry about.


I wasn't worried so much about this stock being banned, I'm worried about where I'll be when the ban happens and would like to have all my ducks in a row before then is all.. HTA thank you for speaking your mind on this issue, it's a breath of fresh air after so many companies (CTD) are back tracking and not supporting the firearms communities that made them what they are today! You have my support, and I hope we are all still able to give you further business in the future


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on December 20, 2012, 04:32:35 PM
Thanks hyrule- we're pretty passionate about this issue- maybe you could tell?

Of course! I've been a bit more vocal on the forums lately because of this issue. I am just getting started having graduated and now have the means to afford some of these things. I was looking forward to saving for my first AR this coming year and now I am forced to go and buy one earlier than funds might allow.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on December 20, 2012, 05:00:27 PM
Hey guys!

Thanks for all your support throughout all of this. Everyone here was expecting something of a mixed reaction, given the wishy-washy nature of some prominent groups. We hope you know that HTA will never turn its back on its customers, whether it's taboo or not. Issues like this are too big to hide from or apologize for. Let the guilt be borne by the guilty alone and then let's forge ahead together as a nation. High Tower Armory is behind you all, we aren't going anywhere and we certainly won't go lying down.

Please keep in touch everyone and if there is anything we can do, please do not hesitate to ask!

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Triggerpull? on December 20, 2012, 06:03:16 PM
Just stumbled back to this thread after a few weeks of
No checking. Whew didnt miss it! Andy I just wanted to
Throw my vote into the ring for your head count. I
Would love to get one of those TAN stocks in my hands!
Keep up the good work and hurry hurry! Hah


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on December 20, 2012, 10:41:58 PM
I forgot to weigh in on my color choice. I'm going with the OD.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on December 21, 2012, 01:22:05 PM
Sounds good Triggerpull- we are hurrying as fast as we can! Thanks for the heads up on color, we appreciate it!

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on December 21, 2012, 01:22:56 PM
You too hyrule- we appreciate it!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on December 21, 2012, 01:46:47 PM
You too hyrule- we appreciate it!

You may just beat RJF. They are dragging butts.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on December 22, 2012, 06:45:25 PM
Got my Ruger 10/22 today, finally ready for my stock!!! Can't wait!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Diverx on December 22, 2012, 09:25:07 PM
Weird, new here, but not so new that I didn't have earlier posts which are gone. Anyway, I'm in for the tan and ready to roll! :^*


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: H2oBouget on December 24, 2012, 07:38:04 AM
Hi all - New guy from Seattle. Followed the links for this product found in several places online.

Greetings High Tower Armory,

What is your Youtube channel?
Is there a video up of the prototype somewhere?

I am interested in seeing pics or video of:
The false mag storage system - Your home page is the only place you can see it open. A larger shot would be nice.

How did you handle the bolt lock issue? - Reach into the mag well still?

The mag release system - _Really_ curious about this. EDIT: You say one handed, do you mean "One handed, wearing gloves, holding a mag in the one hand and the 90/22 in the other, and running" one handed operation?

WAIT A MINUTE!
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As I have stated before, we believe this release is probably one of the fastest ever made for the 10/22. It allows the release process to be made in one simple motion with one hand. The bolt catch lever that will be included is also an excellent part. It features both an extended ergonomic "pedal" design as well as an automatic release contour for rapid chambering of rounds when held open.
Are you saying that you have designed a automatic bolt release that will allow the user, from a locked bolt, to simply insert a mag, and have the bolt go into battery? (if that's the case, tell us you figured out an easy last shot hold open as well, and the 90/22 just became perfect!  ;D)

Do all models come with the tri-rail style top?

and lastly... Does the Fake Can free float over the existing barrel, or is there some kind of block at the end to keep dirt and crud out of the end and give it that enclosed "can" look?

I'm on the newsletter as of now...Interested in green. (Black would be fine too)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on December 24, 2012, 09:58:26 AM
Hi all - New guy from Seattle. Followed the links for this product found in several places online.

Greetings High Tower Armory,

What is your Youtube channel?
Is there a video up of the prototype somewhere?

I am interested in seeing pics or video of:
The false mag storage system - Your home page is the only place you can see it open. A larger shot would be nice.

How did you handle the bolt lock issue? - Reach into the mag well still?

The mag release system - _Really_ curious about this. If we are reaching into the mag well, you guys should consider making an extended (aluminum) mag release that will stick out the bottom of the mag well (by say 1/2")to give us an AK/FAL paddle style release. (longer version of the current extended mag release that Ruger's now ship with.

Do all models come with the tri-rail style top?

and lastly... Does the Fake Can free float over the existing barrel, or is there some kind of block at the end to keep dirt and crud out of the end and give it that enclosed "can" look?

I'm on the newsletter as of now...Interested in green. (Black would be fine too)

Hey H2o,
Welcome, hopefully I can answer some of your questions for you!

1 There are no videos yet, we've asked.

2 The only pictures of the storage in the fake mag are on their website but there is a post earlier on in the thread that said I think it is 40 or 45 22lrs will fit in there staggering their direction.

3 Unsure about the bolt lock issue. I'm guessing I wont' be locking it open anymore.

4 There is a pictured posted by HTA a few posts back of the Tan version with a little lever at the back of the mag well area that is an extended mag release button that they developed but they said it won't be available right away.

5 I'd assume all models come with the tri-rail but haven't heard otherwise.

6 Good Question!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: H2oBouget on December 24, 2012, 05:02:19 PM
Some how I missed page 12 when I was reading the forum at 4 am last night. DOH!

I saw the Tan 90/22, but in my half sleep induced state, I missed the mag release.
Thanks for pointing it out.

I'll edit my questions above.



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on December 26, 2012, 01:32:44 PM
I can't wait, I've been getting more and more excited about the release of this. I just wish I had a video to hold me over  ;)  . I can't wait to see it with the mag release and bolt extender added to it.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on December 26, 2012, 03:43:01 PM
The lack of video or additional photos, makes me wonder if what photos we do see are just computer generated.  Maybe a actual 90/22 doesn't exist yet?

It would be nice to know were production stands.   Are we talking a week from now?  a month? or another 8 months? (HTA's announcement post was dated April 23rd 2012).   If it's coming in a month or less, then I would wait for the HTA stock...  If its looking like another 6+ months, then I would like to order something else for now.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on December 26, 2012, 03:48:51 PM
The lack of video or additional photos, makes me wonder if what photos we do see are just computer generated.  Maybe a actual 90/22 doesn't exist yet?

It would be nice to know were production stands.   Are we talking a week from now?  a month? or another 8 months? (HTA's announcement post was dated April 23rd 2012).   If it's coming in a month or less, then I would wait for the HTA stock...  If its looking like another 6+ months, then I would like to order something else for now.

I can attest that they do exist, I have actually seen a completed stock with my own eyes.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on December 26, 2012, 05:31:46 PM
Hello Everyone!

Sorry for going dark for a while there but with Christmas being Tuesday we had a four day weekend of sorts and are just getting back into things today. As Jeff has pointed out, this stock very much exists. We will be doing a video soon for you all to review and weigh against other kits on the market. The reason we have been slow in producing this stems from our desire to keep some design concepts protected for a while, and our desire to make sure this kit was 100% ready to be shot in a video. The reason for the delays in production has to do with many factors, one of which was appearance. Those of you who know injection molding know how difficult getting good fill, good appearance, and lots of reinforcing fiber out of a large part like this can be. We are now at the point where the parts are looking really good, are filling completely, and have the desired reinforcing content for strength and rigidity. The remaining parts we needed to be produced are being produced and they will be delivered in early 2013. Thanks so much for bearing with us to this point! We know the wait has been long and we apologize for that, but it isn't much longer.

As for some of the questions raised by H2O (thanks for taking time to ask!)- it looks like hyrule covered most of them (Thanks so much hyrule!!!) but as for the can- yes, it is enclosed on the end with a slightly oversized hole to prevent it from working as an actual suppressor and to prevent any bullet strikes should it be bump or moved out of alignment. You shouldn't have a problem with anything getting in it! Everything you see in the pictures comes standard including the shroud/dummy can and the trirail system, except for the 10/22 and the BX25 mag.

The mag release kit will be coming shortly as well and it will have for sure the extended bolt catch and the extended mag release. The bolt catch is automatic in the sense that you only need to pull open the bolt, not pull the bolt open and press the button. Sorry if that was confusing but it doesn't hold the bolt open on the last shot and it doesn't chamber a round when the mag is inserted (there would probably be a huge liability concern there, but at the same time it would be slick as snot.)

Let me know if I missed anything gang! I hope that helps and thanks for filling in for me Jeff and hyrule! We appreciate it!


Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on December 27, 2012, 02:09:41 PM
Thanks for the update.  Just getting itchy to get something in soon.  We may have a ban coming up soon, and they are going after "loopholes" in the last ban.  Like firearms with thumbhole stocks. (unless you get it grandfathered in)

I really want the HTA stock, but I'd rater have my 2nd choice than nothing at all...  RJF is now shipping the ZK, be it with a backlog at the moment.   Glad you got the molds working.  Sounds like it is close.... Have your suppliers given you a delivery date on the final components?   I really want to order something soon, but don't have enough information to make a decision on what to do...

 "Summary of 2013 Feinstein Assault Weapons
Legislation"


http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons (http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on December 27, 2012, 02:37:42 PM
^^^ This link, which I saw yesterday, has ruined my week...

I've already written the house speaker which happens to be from my state and I've got several more to write.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on December 27, 2012, 07:46:13 PM
I urge every single person here and every person in your family to write to your congressman, representatives and everyone you can. This legislation even said something about making firearms at least 30" which now affects all bullpups including this one! Please, take the time and write your representatives. If this actually passes as written it's the beginning of the end of our freedoms.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: BellyUpFish on December 28, 2012, 12:23:30 AM
So, is there at all an expectation on the part of the HTA team to start shipping this in Jan 13'?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on December 28, 2012, 10:39:59 AM
So, is there at all an expectation on the part of the HTA team to start shipping this in Jan 13'?

That is the million dollar question.

I wish we knew what the ETA was.  IMHO the HTA 90/22 is superior to the RJF ZK-22.  That said, RJF is now shipping and customers are starting to receive their stocks.  Their website says now shipping with a 4-6 week back log.  So if that is true and I order a ZK now.  I should have one by mid February at the latest.  Possibly sooner.  



Andy, can you tell us if you will be shipping in the next 4-6 weeks (or sooner)?










Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on December 28, 2012, 10:42:43 AM
id take a bet on that ;D  i bet if you order zk now you will be lucky to have it in 3-4 months,,prob a lot more,,if at all!  good luck  8)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on December 28, 2012, 11:43:39 AM
I've got people asking about stocks for the 10/22 in P90 style over at the FN Forum so I gave them the information for the HTA 90/22. Hopefully getting a few more sales your way. I gave them the best info I could so far.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on December 28, 2012, 01:10:39 PM
Hello Everyone!

Lots to talk about today so we'll just dive in!

First topic is Comrade  Feinstein's ban on"Assault Weapons". It appears this bill would affect the 90/22 product line. HOWEVER, 900 exempt "sporting arms" are going to be listed at a later date. Given the proliferation of the 10/22, we imagine it will be on this list but we aren't counting on it. The good news is, in their over-zealousness to ban what appears to be anything that shoots bullets, they may have created too many enemies for this bill to pass. The gun control politicians could have quite possibly dug the grave for this bill by reaching so far with it, God willing. Instead of chipping away at small groups, they went all in and called out handgun owners, as well as semi-automatic sporting arms owners. For those of you who haven't read this bill, it would require all of you to register your "Assault Weapon" (see the bill at the link already posted above for complete interpretation of Assault Weapon), as well as get finger printed and photographed.


In our opinion, this bill goes one of three ways. The first, and best option, it doesn't pass because it is too invasive, as was mentioned in the above paragraph. Second, (perhaps most likely and thus very scary) this bill gets kicked around and rewritten after debate to be more toned down, closer to the 94 ban. But because Feinstein was swinging for the fences with the original bill, she has a bigger stack of chips going into the bargaining table, meaning a 94 type ban looks like the Second Amendment somehow wins a small victory, which it won't if even one more law is passed on a federal level. The third option is perhaps the most frightening of all, it passes and there is outright civil war. Let's face it everyone- there are well over 10 million gun owners who would have to be registered and fingerprinted. How many of them will actually do it? Probably not many, given the fact that so many of us AR owners are prone to boating accidents while our firearms are on board... At this, point the government begins confiscation of the unregistered firearms it has probable cause to search for. If this thing passes it will mean blood in the streets in a volume we have not seen since the 1860's. If you really want to avoid bloodshed, Dianne, you would resign effective immediately. But gun control has nothing to do with guns, it has to do with control.

As was said before, please, take the time to call or write your congressperson. This is the fight of our lives. Let's not loose it.

As for delivery, we are still looking good- it will be sometime soon in January. More parts arrived today and assembly is beginning! We will keep you all posted via the newsletter. WE ARE GETTING CLOSE! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR PATIENCE, KINDNESS, SUPPORT, AND UNDERSTANDING!

Andy and the team

PS Thanks so much hyrule! We really appreciate you doing that- it means a lot and we really encourage you all to feel free to take from our posts here and use it on other sights if you see questions that go unanswered by us. We post almost exclusively on BPF now so we know there must be many posts out there going without an answer. Thanks so much gang!



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on December 28, 2012, 02:28:19 PM
Hello Everyone!


PS Thanks so much hyrule! We really appreciate you doing that- it means a lot and we really encourage you all to feel free to take from our posts here and use it on other sights if you see questions that go unanswered by us. We post almost exclusively on BPF now so we know there must be many posts out there going without an answer. Thanks so much gang!



You should check the IPs hitting that image you have hosted on your homepage. I cant tell you how many sites I've hotlinked it too.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on December 28, 2012, 03:22:10 PM
That's good news Andy.  Sounds like you are just day's or weeks from taking orders and  shipping.  Looking forward to placing my order soon!!

I've already called my Representatives and plan on mailing them as well.  I hope my Senator and Congressman will stand up and do what is right.  The fact is gun laws don't help.  CT already had some of the toughest gun laws in the country, but they didn't stop the tragedy.  In fact, nothing the government has ever outlawed, has keep it out of the hands of people who wanted whatever it was.  Prohibition and alcohol, The war on drugs to name just a few.  All these laws have done is push the market underground and made it very profitable for organized crime and drug cartels.

I hope everyone here will write and call their Representatives.  

Tell your Representative to take REAL actions in solving this issue.  Here are two for example.

1) Hire armed retired law enforcement officers. Many of whom probably have grand kids there. Pay them what you would an assistant. (much cheaper than an active duty officers) That would be a great and easy job for a retired officer.   Watch some security cameras, walk the halls, be out front during drop-off and pickup...  Off in the summer, Christmas break, spring break, fall break, snow days... etc..  (I've talked with a retired State Trooper who said he would love to have a easy job like that.)

2) Give the teachers/staff some way to defend themselves.  Gun Free Zone signs and security cameras DON'T WORK.  Right now if a bad guy breaks down a door;  they are totally defenseless.  I understand not all teachers/staff are comfortable with a firearm (or qualified).  That doesn't mean they shouldn't have access to something in which to defend not only themselves, but the children in their care.  How about putting taser's in bio-metric safes in every classroom.  Only the teacher could access it.  That would be a non-lethal (last resort) way to fight back if they had too.  But we have to give them a way and a chance to fight back!


Find your Reps here and call them!
http://www.nraila.org/get-involved-locally/grassroots/write-your-reps.aspx (http://www.nraila.org/get-involved-locally/grassroots/write-your-reps.aspx)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on December 28, 2012, 07:23:00 PM
Hey Jeff and Mav!

Thank you so much for everything guys! Jeff, of course, for your unwavering support and constant helpfulness we cannot say enough how much we appreciate everything you do for us!

And thank you Maverick for the great post and great info. We need more guys and gals like you! Thanks a million for standing with us on this!

Keep up the fight guys- we can beat this thing!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: BellyUpFish on December 29, 2012, 09:38:59 AM
So, is it safe to assume as long as we are on the mailing list and follow this thread we should be in line to pick one of these up? ;)

I've been following this since early 2012 and have an entire setup ready to go for it. ;)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on December 29, 2012, 04:01:43 PM
Thanks Andy.

I've been working on a letter to my Representatives.  Here is what I have so for.  Figured it may give others some ideas, and I always like constructive criticism as well.


The Honorable Mitch McConnell
317 Russell Senate Office Building,
District of Columbia 20510-1702

Re: Senator Feinsteinís 2013 gun ban


Dear Senator,

I implore you to stand up for millions of law abiding Americans and fight Dianne Feinsteinís overreaching attack on our freedoms.  The fact is these insane gun laws donít work.  If they did, then why is it the areas with the strictest gun laws, have some of the highest crime rates? (Philadelphia, Chicago, LA, etc.)  Connecticut already had some of the toughest gun laws in the country, but they didn't stop this awful tragedy.  The ONLY thing these laws accomplish is to strip the rights of the law abiding citizens, who weren't a threat to begin with.  Nor should we be treated and processed like criminals.

I urge you to speak out and take REAL actions in solving this issue.  Here are two for example.

1) Hire armed able bodied retired law enforcement officers to work in every school. Many of whom probably have grandkids in the schools. Pay them what you would an aid, which would be a significant savings to the school districts over active duty officers.   This would be a great and easy job for a retired officer.   Watch some security cameras, walk the halls, be out front during drop-off and pickup.  Off in the summer, Christmas break, spring break, fall break, snow days. Etc.   I've talked with a retired State Trooper who said he would love to have a job like that.

2) Give the teachers/staff some way to defend themselves in the event the unthinkable happens.  Gun Free Zone signs, security cameras, and locked glass doors DON'T WORK.  These things only give people a false sense of security, for they will not deter, or stop an insane person who's bent on destruction from forcing their way into a school.  The harsh reality is, with the laws and policies currently in place; the staff and students are totally defenseless.  I understand not all teachers/staff are comfortable with a firearm (or qualified).  That doesn't mean they shouldn't have access to something in which to defend not only themselves, but the children in their care.  How about putting Taser's in bio-metric safes in every classroom?  Only the teacher could access it.  That would be a non-lethal (last resort) way to fight back if they had too.  

If we truly care about our children and want to take REAL steps in ensuring their safety.  Then we have to give them a way and a chance to fight back.  Do we really want to tell the parents of America our plan is for their child to wait 15-20 minutes for police to arrive, while a mentally ill person is on a rampage with an ax, pipe bombs or knife?  For someone who really wants to go on a rampage doesn't need a gun to inflect a lot of carnage.  

Lets stand together to protect not only the children of America, but our constitutional freedoms as well.




Sincerely your constituent,



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: joel4salejunk on December 30, 2012, 06:40:22 PM
Thanks maverick! I am going to to spread this letter around if you don't mind.
Sending the letter out today!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on December 31, 2012, 01:12:20 AM
Thanks maverick! I am going to to spread this letter around if you don't mind.
Sending the letter out today!



Sure, feel free to re-post and/or change it anyway you would like.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: kokopelli on December 31, 2012, 07:23:19 PM
put me down for an OD Green one!

I initially planned on painting one of the zk-22 stocks, but RJ will not get another dime of my money.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sgt_P on December 31, 2012, 07:43:53 PM
put me down for an OD Green one!

I initially planned on painting one of the zk-22 stocks, but RJ will not get another dime of my money.

Make sure to sign-up for the HTA newsletter at the bottom of their homepage.  They'll be alerting and updating through that list and here on BullpupForum.com!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on December 31, 2012, 07:44:29 PM
put me down for an OD Green one!

I initially planned on painting one of the zk-22 stocks, but RJ will not get another dime of my money.

Another dime? What dd youpurchase from them? Just curious


I think it would be awesome if hTA shipped tomorrow!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on December 31, 2012, 08:56:05 PM
I just ordered a ZK-22 today. I really want the HTA, but RJF is starting to ship.   I hope HTA will be ready to start shipping soon. If they do I will order one from them too.  It will be interesting to see which I get first.   


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: kokopelli on January 01, 2013, 12:41:08 PM
put me down for an OD Green one!

I initially planned on painting one of the zk-22 stocks, but RJ will not get another dime of my money.

Another dime? What dd youpurchase from them? Just curious


I think it would be awesome if hTA shipped tomorrow!

I 'pre-ordered' the ZK stock. I'm going to let it ride for another week or so and hope that RJ tells us something...
I signed up for the newsletter on HTA's website- looking forward to the release!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on January 01, 2013, 01:07:23 PM
I signed up for the newsletter a while back but haven't received anything, have I missed anything?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sgt_P on January 01, 2013, 04:06:03 PM
I don't think you've missed anything.  But it appears that HTA is getting closer.

Check out their website (http://www.hightowerarmory.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1817 (http://www.hightowerarmory.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1817), it now shows the different colors that will be available!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on January 01, 2013, 04:21:56 PM
Thanks for taking care of that Sgt P! We appreciate it!

You should be good to go Solscud!- not much longer now. We hope to be shipping to you all soon. Keep in touch!


Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Snapperhead363 on January 01, 2013, 04:34:16 PM
Tan! Tan! Tan! Did I mention I want one in tan?  :cheerleader


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on January 01, 2013, 04:55:33 PM
ANDY :o in case you guys havent herd,snapperhead wants tan ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on January 01, 2013, 07:27:06 PM
FireArmBlog.com says now shipping

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/01/01/high-tower-armory-now-shipping-p90-ish-ruger1022-bullpup-conversion/ (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/01/01/high-tower-armory-now-shipping-p90-ish-ruger1022-bullpup-conversion/)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on January 01, 2013, 10:26:18 PM
It says that they are taking pre-orders via the newsletter.  I've signed up for the newsletter long time ago.  I've never gotten a newsletter, or anything about taking pre-orders either. 

Andy if your taking pre-orders, let me know how!  Dying to get my hands on one.  I've also ordered a ZK-22.  It would be interesting to see which one I get first.   I also can't wait to compare the two.   From the information I have now, I think I like the HTA stock better; but there is only one way to find out. 


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on January 01, 2013, 10:27:56 PM
I've not gotten any newsletter either and I'm signed up. I'm ready for the go ahead though to order.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NativeNinja747 on January 04, 2013, 11:43:19 AM
I sent a letter to my Senator..Who's ready for a civil war?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on January 04, 2013, 11:48:20 AM
Alot of People are  ready! The question is really would it happen.


I wonder how many people have signed up for this "Newsletter"


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sgt_P on January 04, 2013, 12:06:13 PM
I think they have a pretty good list of names.  Based on the interest on this forum.

================

As for a "civil war", I think it would be more like a peaceful secession.

However, the Federal entitlements, etc would be the hard part.

I think that borders and business would be do-able, even military and police wouldn't be that hard to separate.  But are you willing to give-up your Social Security?  You've paid in, and I doubt that would travel into a new territory.

++++++++++++++++

Personally, I'm ready for the hard discussion!!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on January 04, 2013, 12:10:42 PM
I'm 35 and unfortunately I'm expecting there not to be any social security for me as it is. There already talking about retirement age for us around 82 or so..... Heck that's not retirement that's settling in to slide in the grave.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on January 04, 2013, 01:05:01 PM
i feel they owe me what i payed in at a very minimum,considering they should be making huge interest off the total from everyone as a whole..and i dont feel they should up the age of anything..these small things have ruined a lot of lives already imho..i hate seeing some older folks in there 80,s that have to work at walmart to make ends meet..not because they are bored and enjoy working all the time as some do..the ones i talk to have to do it to get by..thats cruel..then again,if they didnt pay taxes i guess they are digging there own grave so to speak..still cruel to me.. >:(


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on January 04, 2013, 01:12:15 PM
i feel they owe me what i payed in at a very minimum,considering they should be making huge interest off the total from everyone as a whole..and i dont feel they should up the age of anything..these small things have ruined a lot of lives already imho..i hate seeing some older folks in there 80,s that have to work at walmart to make ends meet..not because they are bored and enjoy working all the time as some do..the ones i talk to have to do it to get by..thats cruel..then again,if they didnt pay taxes i guess they are digging there own grave so to speak..still cruel to me.. >:(

They aren't making huge interest off of anything, the money you pay in SS doesn't go into some huge fund that waits until you hit the magic age. SS tax goes into the general fund and pays out as soon as it goes in. The biggest misconception about SS is that you have an account waiting on you, or that you have paid into anything. SS is literally a ponzi scheme.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on January 04, 2013, 01:16:52 PM
We would be so much better off if each person paid into their own personal account, so it's there for that person only and no one else. The idea has been tossed about but nothing ever came of it.


Has anyone yet received any kind of newsletter from hTA? Just wondering about that firearm blog mentioning that it was available.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on January 04, 2013, 01:38:37 PM
We would be so much better off if each person paid into their own personal account, so it's there for that person only and no one else. The idea has been tossed about but nothing ever came of it.


Has anyone yet received any kind of newsletter from hTA? Just wondering about that firearm blog mentioning that it was available.

Bush II floated the balloon of private SS accounts and the libs torpedoed it big time.

I spoke with Andy about that fire arm blog link, he said that the info was incorrect and TFB was supposed to edit that info.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on January 04, 2013, 02:02:51 PM
i understand everything well,,dont mean its the correct way to use our money and screw us in the end when weve worked very hard our hole lives...they look at it there way,and me my way..if they do away with ss,i will prob be better off in the long run..good lawyers are worth having! even tho id prob loose 8)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: DonL on January 04, 2013, 08:21:47 PM
i feel they owe me what i payed in at a very minimum,considering they should be making huge interest off the total from everyone as a whole..and i dont feel they should up the age of anything..these small things have ruined a lot of lives already imho..i hate seeing some older folks in there 80,s that have to work at walmart to make ends meet..not because they are bored and enjoy working all the time as some do..the ones i talk to have to do it to get by..thats cruel..then again,if they didnt pay taxes i guess they are digging there own grave so to speak..still cruel to me.. >:(

They aren't making huge interest off of anything, the money you pay in SS doesn't go into some huge fund that waits until you hit the magic age. SS tax goes into the general fund and pays out as soon as it goes in. The biggest misconception about SS is that you have an account waiting on you, or that you have paid into anything. SS is literally a ponzi scheme.

More appropriately called....a tontine insurance scheme.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: 124C41 on January 05, 2013, 12:02:26 AM
HTA 90/22 Thread has gone off on a tangent... :o

 


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on January 05, 2013, 12:04:31 AM
Just a small tangent while we wait for stocks to become available to order.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Darklord99 on January 05, 2013, 06:01:11 PM
It's not much better for us here in Australia, we have superannuation which our employers pay a min of 9% into (you can top it up yourself to 15%) but itís generally worth bugger all by the time you retire (ours is 65-67yo) and our Govt taxes you when you pay into it AND when you eventually get to access it.

If you a knowledgeable about such things you can manage it yourself & do OK, but most leave it to the super companies.

We also have government pensions (our social security) but this is means tested, the aged pension is pretty crap, but you do get your travel, utilities, medical & medication subsidised so thatís a plus I guess.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: BellyUpFish on January 06, 2013, 12:26:12 AM
Anyway to take the political garbage somewhere else?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NHPig on January 06, 2013, 08:36:42 AM
I wouldn't refer to it as "political garbage", but it does belong in another thread.

The next post after this needs to be HTA announcing the release.....  :-)

RJ has your thunder!  Take it back HTA!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on January 06, 2013, 09:04:05 AM
I wouldn't refer to it as "political garbage", but it does belong in another thread.

The next post after this needs to be HTA announcing the release.....  :-)

RJ has your thunder!  Take it back HTA!

Rjf has no thunder. So far they have only over promised and under delivered.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on January 06, 2013, 10:52:49 AM
 :'(


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: BellyUpFish on January 06, 2013, 04:25:03 PM
I wouldn't refer to it as "political garbage", but it does belong in another thread.

The next post after this needs to be HTA announcing the release.....  :-)

RJ has your thunder!  Take it back HTA!

LOL.. When you've just spent the last 2 days digging through the ashes of your burnt down house and get online to read about guns, it's political garbage. ;)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on January 06, 2013, 04:53:17 PM
All I know is I'm ready to place my order. Soon isn't coming soon enough for me, I'm getting impatient though I'm trying hard not to be lol.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: kokopelli on January 08, 2013, 05:05:37 PM
All I know is I'm ready to place my order. Soon isn't coming soon enough for me, I'm getting impatient though I'm trying hard not to be lol.

ditto


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: kokopelli on January 08, 2013, 05:10:16 PM
I keep looking at the pics of the OD Green, which is what I initially wanted, but it looks pretty dark, at least on my screen, compared to the P90's actual OD...I might go with the tan instead....hmmmmmm........


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on January 08, 2013, 05:14:10 PM
I keep looking at the pics of the OD Green, which is what I initially wanted, but it looks pretty dark, at least on my screen, compared to the P90's actual OD...I might go with the tan instead....hmmmmmm........

get both....duh


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on January 09, 2013, 05:39:08 PM
First time poster, just wanted to say that after a two week search I finally found a 10/22 (the last one of the shipment they received that morning) so I am ready to go.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sgt_P on January 09, 2013, 06:19:57 PM
First:  WELCOME!!

Second:  where's the pictures?!?  Rule of the interwebs: it aint true without pictures!!

Or are you waiting on it to be a Bullpup?!?  8)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on January 09, 2013, 06:49:03 PM
id already be havin plans to chop and drill that 1022 stock shade tree style ;D
welcome to the forum!  8)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NHPig on January 10, 2013, 04:30:51 PM
More than one week since we've seen a post from Andy...

Can we get a weekly shout out?

Is it just time spent in production or are the specific delays?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Snapperhead363 on January 10, 2013, 04:52:18 PM
Welcome!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on January 11, 2013, 10:42:07 PM
I'm bored, and thinking about my future stock and was just wondering how things stood and what progress has been made.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on January 12, 2013, 08:36:54 AM
Does anyone know if HTA will be at SHOT? I cant seemd to find any info in that regards.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on January 14, 2013, 11:22:15 AM
Hey Gang!

Wow I am very sorry about all this- A big thanks to Gregory is in order, as he alerted me to the posts piling up. I must have bumped the notify me of replies button. I never got any emails letting me know you had posted. I haven't had much time to frequent the forum also because the boss man is getting everyone with thumbs on the floor to assemble parts! We are getting close guys- thanks so much for bearing with us. We won't be at shot show sorry- we just have one thing and one thing alone to focus on at the moment and that is getting you product.

BellyUp- we are all really sorry to hear about your house! Is everyone ok? How bad was it? Are the guns ok?

Our OD is darker than the FN OD- we actually tried to go a little closer to magpul. The pictures don't do it justice as for some reason OD gets super dark in pictures or too glared looking if lit to the proper color. Anyway, it is darker than the FN but lighter than magpul whose accessories are probably more common to the average shooter than an OD PS90. So to keep things somewhat consistent looking inside the ole gun vault, we  tried to match magpul a little more closely. Similarly the desert tan is a split between the lighter shades of tan found on some guns and the dark magpul FDE. It should thus work with a host of different color versions. I love the tan one but there is no sense arguing over tastes!

RJF has the thunder this is true, but then again they always did. Having a national television show and millions of dollars, not to mention hundreds of thousands of your pre-buy dollars, allows a lot to be done in a hurry. We wish them all the best and hope they have great success with the ZK22. As for us, what another company does or does not do is of little consequence to us. We will always remain committed to making you guys happy, whatever it takes to do that. If there is anything at all I or anyone here can do for you please let us know.

I would love to weigh in on some of the other topics discussed here, BELIEVE ME. But the one drawback to my job is that I have to remain somewhat impartial and unbiased. What I can say is that Jeff, as always, raises many valid points haha. Keep up the fight my friends! Freedom is too precious a gift to just throw away with apathy.

Please let me know if I missed anything guys! Sorry for being so late on this. Hope you are all having a wonderful New Year! Keep in touch,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on January 14, 2013, 01:02:43 PM
I have had the same problem with notifications, sometimes i get an email and sometimes I don't. Glad to hear things are coming along of course, can't wait to order!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: javaduke on January 15, 2013, 01:54:29 PM
Andy, I just came across this forum, as I stated before in my emails, I'm extremely interested in this stock. I have a few more questions.
First, is the charging handle fully functioning? If yes, how is it linked to the 10/22 action handle/bolt? Can you post some pictures?
Second, which mag release would be a best option for this stock? I assume KIDD extended release fill not fit.
Finally, is bold hold lever still accessible?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on January 15, 2013, 02:11:13 PM
Hey Java and welcome to the community here at BPF- these are some great guys and we're glad you jumped in on the discussion! Thanks so much for the great questions by the way!

The charging handle is a single piece, stamped from heavy gauge steel- it is built to last! It goes around the barrel to be accessible on both the right and left sides but "floats" around the barrel, indexing off the stock so that it will not scratch or scuff the barrel. It is thus fully functional as an ambidextrous handle. The handle itself does not actually engage the original 10/22 bolt handle until you pull back on the HTA 90/22 forward handle and once released, it is propelled forward by its own spring and tucks securely out of the way so it will not ever obstruct the ejection port during firing. Having a dedicated spring in our kit also prevents the handle from rattling or sliding around when the gun is tipped. We will be posting a demo video and assembly video soon that will cover all this info!

As for mag releases, we recommend waiting a few more months for our release- it is a fabulous design that has 2 different height settings to suit your needs and preferences and its lines were contoured around this kit for a seamless look. Same thing goes for our extended bolt catch, which features the automatic bolt release feature, which allows the user to simply pull back on the charging handle to disengage the bolt catch and send a round home! A prototype of each will be featured in our video so stay tuned.

Thanks again for your interest and questions Java! We are here to help and if we can do anything for you or anyone else who reads this, please let us know!

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: BellyUpFish on January 19, 2013, 11:07:41 PM
Good to hear.i keep checking back here hoping I haven't missed the release. ;)

House fire was a bummer. Most of my stuff made it out, however the part of my collection that suffered the most damage was the 10/22 group, but I will get it sorted out. ;)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on January 21, 2013, 09:54:30 AM
You didn't miss anything yet BellyUp- glad to hear everything is relatively OK and no one got hurt! That's the important thing, plus I'm sure the 10/22's that did get damaged were slated for some upgrades anyway...

Thanks so much for checking in!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Mickey D on January 23, 2013, 02:31:45 PM
 Andy I know you guys are getting close to release date, can you tell me how we will be able to pay you? Credit card, check or pay pal.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on January 23, 2013, 03:35:23 PM
Hey Mickey!

How's everything in your neck of the woods? We are getting close! As far as payment options, we should have several available. We will definitely offer the option of a check/money order. The reason this is appealing is because it will allow us to keep them in the order they were signed up for on our site. For example, we can send out the first emails to the first customers who can then send out their payment, following the specific instructions found only in the email we send out. (There may be an attached form of some kind to help keep the orders straight and what color is desired.)

We may also offer a secured paypal gateway for CC payments. The problem we are having is that we will not be able to accept payments over the HTA website, because there will be some people who signed up later who will steal the early signer's spots. There needs to be some way of distinguishing between people who have been waiting longest. We feel the best way to do that is either through mail in payment or secured paypal/cc processing link. Let me know if you guys can think of another way that would be most convenient for you and still allow us to hold your spot in line. Thanks for hanging with us gang!

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on January 23, 2013, 03:38:20 PM
Credit card or check over the phone maybe? PayPal is awesome too.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: javaduke on January 23, 2013, 03:39:38 PM
I'm wondering if there's a way for me to verify that I'm indeed in the line and what my position is (and what is the ETA). Then you can send me a payment request via Paypal when you are ready to ship.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on January 23, 2013, 04:01:52 PM
I hope I'm as close to the front as I think I am. I anticipate HTA having a smoother release than RJF has so far.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on January 23, 2013, 04:21:32 PM
Hey Guys!

Ya we hope it goes a little smoother too! It may take the same amount of time but the difference is we're the ones floating the money, not you! Sorry for all the delays. We just want you guys to know that when you get the release email from us it is because we are confident your kit will be shipping from our facility promptly after receiving payment. We are working on the various ways we could accept payment now and hope to have something hammered out soon. Thanks!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on January 23, 2013, 06:23:06 PM
I'm not picky. I'll do credit card, PayPal, first born. Whatever works.
As far as processing in order, what about a simple spreadsheet?  Enter the people who have signed up in the order they signed up, send out the e-mail, wait a day and then enter who has made the purchase into a spreadsheet. Should be able to cross reference the names and you'd be good to go.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on January 23, 2013, 08:50:45 PM
I'm all for convenience of a credit card/debt card but I'd caution using paypal, they hate guns and will cancel all accounts that are associated with any firearms transactions. I've even heard of firearms parts being reason for them to freeze the accounts. I'd check that out first before using paypal but I'm definitely interested in CC over money order.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on January 24, 2013, 12:01:40 PM
I would be happy to send a USPS money order if that simplifies things for you guys.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on January 24, 2013, 01:57:51 PM
Hey Gang!

We had also heard that about paypal and it looks like that probably won't be our first choice. We may have to come up with a way of processing credit cards over the phone or fax, but as you can imagine, that will leave our phone lines pretty busy for a few hours after the email goes out haha. That's what is kind of appealing about the mail in option- you can either mail us a check, money order, or credit card payment info and then we can process each order as fast as our equipment will allow without putting a dozen people on hold.

If we do go with a mail in payment system, it will definitely be done in a way that does not put checks or MO's at a disadvantage. That is to say, credit card orders will not be sent out before other payment methods, thereby protecting your spot no matter how you pay.

In any event, we will find a fair way to do this to ensure that those of you who have been loyally waiting will be rewarded with on of the first kits out the door. Thanks again for all your patience and kindness guys! It means a great deal!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: BellyUpFish on January 25, 2013, 12:14:25 AM
Jeffco - you've gotta be very close to the top. I've been on the list since 4/12 and am pretty sure you were the one I saw at ARFCOM talking about the stock.

It's starting to get exciting!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: wbassett on January 25, 2013, 02:51:05 PM
Do you know if the HTA kit will work with the P90 Terminator accessory rail system?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NHPig on January 25, 2013, 06:26:23 PM
Near as I can tell, I just need to mail a check to you guys, you can cash it when you want to....  :-)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on January 26, 2013, 11:29:41 AM
NHPig you may just be a genius (no you definitely are)! We could take checks now and cash them as the kits become available. It keeps you all in order, it won't delay you any since we'll have the checks ahead of time , and it is still technically your money until we ship. I'll run that up the flag poll with management.... the only drawback is that some people might forget they have a $200+ liability and we might get a few rubber ball checks... and then neither of us is happy  ;)  At any rate, I will bring that up as an option to help keep the peace and keep the order. Thanks so much Pig!

Andy and the gang at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on January 26, 2013, 12:33:10 PM
What about taking the checks early and sending out a notification two days before cashing, that way everyone can verify the funds are there and have an opportunity to say "No!" if they aren't. Or everyone could be responsible and just make sure the funds are always available.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: rrindfield on January 26, 2013, 12:46:52 PM
I'm good with sending you a check.  BTW, hate that the first post I'm making is about sending you money. Been a member for a while just been "lurking" until we knew these would ship.  I am sooooo ready to get this and play a little.  Heck, at the rate 22lr ammo is so scarce we may get the stock without any ammo to shoot through it.  How ironic would that be? 


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on January 26, 2013, 02:32:18 PM
Could it be possible to setup a payment system on your website that is accessible only by invite so you could email those people in order on the list a certain number of people at a time give them 24 hours to access the website and pay then the next batch of emails are sent out. And so forth until everyone has a chance then open the website up to everyone else after all the pre-orders are taken.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: kokopelli on January 26, 2013, 04:48:09 PM
How about setting up a 'private' section on the website, and sending out a login and password to access it?
Or simply a new email account from which you send the announcement, to which we reply with our order and payment option.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on January 26, 2013, 09:39:52 PM
I don't use checks. Last box of checks I got was about 13 years ago. 

Quick question off subject for this forum, where would a good place be to look if I decide to sell my ar15?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on January 26, 2013, 10:38:12 PM
Hell, ill just send you a copy front and back of my CC. Just charge it whenever you are ready.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: BellyUpFish on January 27, 2013, 12:08:34 AM
What about accepting a USPS Money order?

It's paid for, wont bounce. Don't have to remember, just pack up the stock and ship.

How close are we?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: wbassett on January 27, 2013, 02:32:35 AM
Do you know if the HTA kit will work with the P90 Terminator accessory rail system?
Any answer for this?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: rrindfield on January 27, 2013, 10:55:46 AM
Gregory, try Gunbroker.com. They are going for ridiculous prices now due to the BS coming out of Washington.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Darkmage on January 27, 2013, 12:44:49 PM
I don't use checks. Last box of checks I got was about 13 years ago. 

Quick question off subject for this forum, where would a good place be to look if I decide to sell my ar15?
Gunbroker.com is good if you're looking for an auction for your AR. The other possibility is armslist.com, which I think is just a classifieds sight ala Craigslist.

Depending on your location, there may be a local website. In VA, we have vaguntrader.com, which is quite lively.

The other possibility: Print up a flyer with your phone number at the bottom and see if your local ranges have a place to put them up. Much like college kids looking for a roommate. :)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on January 27, 2013, 02:03:59 PM
I'm in kentucky. I bought the AR, never been fired. Gunbroker it seems charges more than gunsamerica but not sure my responsibilities in selling. I'd prefer for a ffl holder to get it out of my name properly should I sell it.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Morph on January 27, 2013, 06:24:49 PM
Andy, any ideas on payment from non US buyers? I'm in the UK.
I've been watching this with interest for quite a while & purchased a 1022 just for the purpose of dropping it in your stock.
I registered on your site & the mailing list a while back but I know theres a whole lot of people ahead of me  :D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: 124C41 on January 27, 2013, 09:15:06 PM
You know what this reminds me of?....


(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/24018755.jpg)


I'm fine with any form of payment as long as you don't sell out before I can get the order in.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: kipy on January 28, 2013, 01:20:53 PM
Jeez things are awfully civilized on this forum, over on the zk22 forum their eating themselves alive. Looks like it was a really smart move not taking pre orders on HTA's behalf. Been keeping track of this forum since last april just now decided to join. Cant wait for my 90/22!!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sgt_P on January 28, 2013, 01:22:29 PM
Jeez things are awfully civilized on this forum, over on the zk22 forum their eating themselves alive. Looks like it was a really smart move not taking pre orders on HTA's behalf. Been keeping track of this forum since last april just now decided to join. Cant wait for my 90/22!!

Welcome!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Snapperhead363 on January 28, 2013, 02:56:18 PM
Welcome! I can't wait either!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: enracaed on January 29, 2013, 12:22:17 AM
I'll take a tan stock and prefer payment via check or credit card (as long the new 4% check out fee does not apply).  Hope to see your stock in production soon.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on January 29, 2013, 01:04:11 PM
Hello everybody and welcome new members to the discussion! Glad you took the time to pop in!!

Wow- thank you all for your time and excitement! Sorry for having not been on here in a couple days. I apologize for that- we have been exceedingly busy and just now did I learn there was this much activity on BPF.

As you can see on the RJF page, there was a specific reason we did not want to take and nor will we take any money until we absolutely have to. We just don't feel right about tying up your guy's money. Ultimately, our goal is to make you guys happy. We feel we can best accomplish that goal by not making you you pay till you have to. I know it's hard and we apologize for the delays. And trust us, as a small company we would love nothing more than to "shut up and take your damn money" :)

When we send the email, it will likely include an attached form. Simply fill it out with the required info eg name, address, number, number of units, color desired, and include a check or money order or possibly as Jeff pointed out a copy of your CC if we can get the processing system setup.

In any case, we will have a clear and concise system for payment and it will be explained in our email. Thanks for bearing with us guys!

Andy and the team at HTA



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on January 29, 2013, 02:21:04 PM
How's that video coming?  I would love to see one...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: H2oBouget on January 29, 2013, 07:58:34 PM
Andy,

Why would there be an issue with credit cards? One of you guys has to have a Iphone.
Check out payment alliance http://www.gopai.com/ They work with gunbroker.
They can set you up with a swiper and they will allow you to hand key card numbers. (it costs a little more in fees to hand swipe)

So....VIDEO!?!?!?!!?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: wbassett on January 30, 2013, 02:03:08 AM
Do you know if the HTA kit will work with the P90 Terminator accessory rail system?
Any answer for this?
Bueller... Bueller...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Diverx on January 30, 2013, 08:34:21 AM
"When we send the email, it will likely include an attached form. Simply fill it out with the required info eg name, address, number, number of units, color desired, and include a check or money order or possibly as Jeff pointed out a copy of your CC if we can get the processing system setup."

    A suggestion when considering the potential line forming to purchase the 90/22, you may want to consider limiting the "number of units". It will be helpful, perhaps, in keeping the villagers at bay! I am likely a villager since I've only been following this thread since late September and wasn't on HTAs contact list until October.  ;)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gregchico on January 30, 2013, 06:18:53 PM
Since you will be going off the forum list first instead of the notify me/news letter/wishlist  list I signed up for 6-8 months ago, please count me in to...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: turtlini on January 30, 2013, 07:50:15 PM
Since you will be going off the forum list first instead of the notify me/news letter/wishlist  list I signed up for 6-8 months ago, please count me in to...

I believe Andy said he was going off the HTA newsletter signup list, not this forum.

"As far as payment options, we should have several available. We will definitely offer the option of a check/money order. The reason this is appealing is because it will allow us to keep them in the order they were signed up for on our site. For example, we can send out the first emails to the first customers who can then send out their payment, following the specific instructions found only in the email we send out. (There may be an attached form of some kind to help keep the orders straight and what color is desired.)" -Andy


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gregchico on January 31, 2013, 09:40:23 AM
Thanks turtlini, I obviously missed that.

I don't care what line I have to stand in to get one, as long as I'm in the correct line to get one (sooner than later I hope).....





Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on January 31, 2013, 12:08:20 PM
Hey Guys!

Sorry for the late reaction to this- yesterday was a super busy day for everyone here. Lots to work on!

A video will be coming on shortly- it is currently being edited and as soon as we have something ready for viewing it will go up. After watching some clips I realized I have a face for radio and voice for photography haha.

I'll try to get the video guys to send me some cool still shots of the kit so you can see the features up close.

Thanks everyone for kind of self policing this and answering questions in my absence. I'll do my best to get to as much as possible here on this forum- if I can do anything at all please let me know!

Thanks gentlemen!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: wbassett on January 31, 2013, 12:35:46 PM
Do you know if the HTA kit will work with the P90 Terminator accessory rail system?
Any answer for this?
Bueller... Bueller...
Andy I've seen you on and respond to other posts, not sure if you just keep missing this or not or the crickets are my answer.

Any word on this?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on January 31, 2013, 02:29:27 PM
Hey wbasset- I am very, very sorry for missing this! I try to read everything and answer everything but this one slipped by. Many apologies...

So I looked into this and found a few places that had pics/video of the kit. It looks like there is a possibility it could work with our kit. It may require some tinkering and ingenuity but it could be done- at least for the rail portion. The other accessories in the kit probably won't fit (and wouldn't really be necessary). The big thing will be getting a bolt that can go through the bolt hole that corresponds on our kit with the one in the rail. I don't know if their holes and our holes would align properly to allow a bolt to pass through. A drill could probably solve that issue. We unfortunately don't have a terminator rail here we can test but we could certainly look at ordering one if it was something a lot of people wanted to try out.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention wbasset! I will be sure to stay on top of EVERYONE's posts. I will also let you know if I come up with any firm yes or no answer on the rail. Please let me know if this doesn't make sense or if I'm looking at the wrong thing.

Andy and the gang at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: wbassett on January 31, 2013, 06:14:24 PM
I have the kit, it looks like the main thing would be the mounting point on the P90 shell.  The inner ring of the rail mount uses set screws to tighten to the barrel and looks to be able to accommodate a variety of barrel diameters.  I can say with certainty that it will go over an 7.62x39 barrel.  As far as the mock suppressor, yeah you're right that really wouldn't be needed but could be done if a person wants to spend the time opening up the ends.

Just to make sure we are both talking about the same thing this is what I am talking about-
(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l190/wbassett/Bullpups/22cal_Bullpups/PlinkerP90004.jpg)

Obviously it's that front rail system.  You can see the mount points, it's where the rail system extends back onto the P90 frame and in that picture it looks like a white dot.  That's where the screws would go and normally a P90 has a hollowed out rectangular area on both sides.  The kit includes inserts to put in the cutout and then the screws go into that.

I just really like the look of the Terminator and your stock looks great and actually like a P90 whereas Red Jacket's just has a 'similar style'.  Nothing against the Redjacket one, just saying yours looks like a P90 and would look awsome with the P90 kit :)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: kipy on February 05, 2013, 04:53:29 PM
While were all patiently waiting you guys should go on Facebook and show HTA some love. I just stumbled upon they're page and they only have like 116 likes. Lets boost that number!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on February 05, 2013, 06:45:23 PM
Haha thanks Kipy!! I think you already got one more for us! We appreciate your and everyone else's enthusiasm! It means a lot to us,

Andy and the team



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on February 05, 2013, 06:46:41 PM
I hit the like button!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Diverx on February 06, 2013, 07:48:49 AM
 Facebook. That's funny!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: dntam on February 06, 2013, 09:41:00 PM
Anyone or Andy, will the bolt locking lever  on the 10/22 still work with the HTA stock ?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: H2oBouget on February 08, 2013, 04:56:36 PM
Anyone or Andy, will the bolt locking lever  on the 10/22 still work with the HTA stock ?

As I understand it, the bolt lock will still function, you will have to reach up into the magwell to activate it.
A future project is an add on to the stock that will extend the mag release and the bolt lock down to the bottom of the magwell, making it so that you don't have to reach up into there to do either function.
Either way, HTA is recommending a automatic bolt release. I think Andy said that the add on part would come with one.
I think he also said that he add on part was going to be in the $60-80 range.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on February 10, 2013, 12:55:10 PM
While waiting for this kit, I just purchased a fully loaded utas UTS-15 shotgun, current time is about 6 weeks but I've been waiting longer than that for the keltec shotgun. The UTS I ordered looks cool as well and for 1500 it comes with front and rear sights, laser fashlight combo, tactical choke tube, and carry bag. I'm stoked! Anyway waiting for this to come and waiting for release of hTA kit.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: dntam on February 10, 2013, 05:07:33 PM
Anyone or Andy, will the bolt locking lever  on the 10/22 still work with the HTA stock ?

As I understand it, the bolt lock will still function, you will have to reach up into the magwell to activate it.
A future project is an add on to the stock that will extend the mag release and the bolt lock down to the bottom of the magwell, making it so that you don't have to reach up into there to do either function.
Either way, HTA is recommending a automatic bolt release. I think Andy said that the add on part would come with one.
I think he also said that he add on part was going to be in the $60-80 range.


I think as long as it still works it will be fine with me. I dont mind having to stick my finger in the mag well to get it to lock back. I coulld be wrong but from I understand it will not work at all on the RJF bullpup.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on February 14, 2013, 12:53:48 AM
Just thought I'd post here to break the "no updates" on the HTA thread.  RJF threads are updating very quickly, but the whining is hurting my brain.  Yeesh!

Looking forward to Andy and HTA making some serious progress.

Cheers!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on February 14, 2013, 07:12:00 AM
exactly why i un subscribed from the rjf thread and have not looked back one time ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: wbassett on February 14, 2013, 11:51:31 PM
Nothing against the RJF pup, but it is only a close approximation of a real P90 and what Andy is doing will look like the real deal.  Plus I'm betting that a lot of P90 accessories will either work on the HTA out of the box, or just very minor fitting will be required.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gregchico on February 21, 2013, 05:51:21 PM
I'm starting to feel like a drug addict.  
I'm checking in here for shipping updates and my spam folders for "buy me" emails frequently just hoping to get my next "fix"....

I would like to request some eye candy to feed my need...
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/gregchico/3106662359_67d8b7e251.jpg)



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on February 21, 2013, 07:57:45 PM
c,mon now gregchico,you gotta start with a lighter duty habit like smoke and beer,then those hardcore items will feed your need for a better more powerfull thing  like a
hta 90/22..then you will become drug free and start buying more guns incase you need to fight off the dea agents when there raiding your stash  ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: strojo on February 27, 2013, 11:18:24 AM
Status update????


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on March 01, 2013, 09:07:46 PM
I'm Loosing faith.   ???


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on March 01, 2013, 09:28:35 PM
I'm Loosing faith.   ???

I wouldn't, Andy's posts have referenced dealing with insurance companies and lawyers. They are probably hacking through the red tape jungle with a machete trying to get this finished. Trust me when I say no one wants these to hit the market more than Andy and his guys at HTA.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on March 03, 2013, 09:33:42 AM
Any new news?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: javaduke on March 07, 2013, 07:47:52 AM
It's been a month since the last update - any progress?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Snapperhead363 on March 10, 2013, 03:43:29 PM
 :popcorn


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: johnny9 on March 10, 2013, 08:13:03 PM
prob having a hard time finding bulk ammo to do the finale testing of the stocks ;D
here,this will pass the time for you hoarders :P
wheres all the ammo going..not sure its true but it is on line ;D
http://patriotpost.us/editions/17122


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on March 12, 2013, 10:34:29 AM
Hello hello!!!

I must apologize again! It seems either our email system or something is not allowing me to receive emails from bullpup forum. This is the second or third time now that I have not received any email with a thread update. Props to Mr. Jeffco for being on the ball and thanks again!

Progress: Working on getting everything finalized. Hopefully good news from the lawyer soon. He gave us approval last week but we still need his written approval report for the insurance company. I have not received this yet. Also, we are awaiting a few parts to get back from one of our suppliers. We have had to keep upping the order and so some of the smaller parts they wanted to run all at once which means they are the last things to get made. Videos are being edited now- we have seen several cuts and now we think we have it pretty close, so stay tuned!

Thanks so much for your patience guys. We can't say that enough! I know it seems like this will never come, but trust me it will. This is our livelihood and what many of us who work here want to be doing for the rest of our careers. We aren't just twiddling our thumbs or playing some sick game where we make you guys wait for one of the all time coolest 10/22 accessories ever! Which is my completely unbiased opinion ;) We are a tiny little company trying to make the American dream a reality, but we are not, and will not, forgo the things we need to do to make a great product on the front end in order to hastily bring something to market. For as anxious as you all are to get this kit (and we love that fact!) we are just as anxious, if not more so. At any rate, we just want you guys to know that you all are the reason we do this. We want nothing more than to provide a product that you can all enjoy and be proud of at the range. We know that these are just words, talk is cheap, and product concepts are a dime a dozen, but I assure you we are working hard on this. It will happen. And when it does, we certainly hope and trust it will be a product that has more than warranted the wait.

Thank you again, from all of us here at HTA, for your continued patience, loyalty, and support. It means so much to have this kind of core following and the reason we post on BF. Please let me know if there is ANYTHING I can do at all to help make the wait go faster! In the meantime, I'll try to figure out why I'm not getting updates from the system about thread replies so it's not another month before you hear from me haha

Regards

Andy and the Team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on March 12, 2013, 05:12:21 PM
Great to hear from you, Andy!  Thanks for the update. 


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: rrindfield on March 12, 2013, 05:51:40 PM
Second the update kudos! 


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sgt_P on March 12, 2013, 05:57:09 PM
Andy,
I'll shoot you a PM, but the "notifications" settings need to be changed in your profile.

For some reason, it's currently set to "moderation only".  You want "replies and moderation".

Jon


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on March 13, 2013, 02:46:56 PM
Thanks gang!

And thank so much Sgt. P for the great support! Sorry about that- I didn't realize that had gotten bumped!

Andy


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: thirdjoker on March 14, 2013, 08:15:55 PM
I've been following this since last year in april when this was anounced. Very excited to see this become a reality. Almost a year now. how close are you to shipping and what kind of time frame are we looking at to recieve one of these?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on March 15, 2013, 11:58:46 AM
Hey Joker!

We appreciate the interest in our product and we are truly sorry how long this is taking to come to fruition. HTA is a young company working within a limited budget and we are doing our best to speed this along. We were trying to put off announcing the product as long as possible to help avoid some of the anxiousness we are seeing now. Unfortunately, with the announcement of another bullpup for the 10/22, we felt we had to make our move too. That's part of the reason this has the perception of going on for so long. We hope to have these out soon and we will definitely be keeping you all up to date when that happens.

In the meantime thank you all so much for your continued interest and patience. It sure means a lot!

Andy and the Team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: FChuckP3 on March 16, 2013, 09:01:38 AM
Please Put me down for one. I am Cancelling my order through RJF.
Thanks!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: bradfa on March 17, 2013, 05:30:11 PM
Andy, I just came across this forum,  I'm extremely interested in this stock. Which 10/22 receiver (poly or metal) would work best with the stock.  Thanks.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on March 18, 2013, 11:41:24 AM
Hey Chuck and Brad!

Thanks so much for your interest!

Chuck, to put your name on the list, please sign up on our website submitting your preferred email address to our newsletter sign up box in the bottom right corner of our sight. We are keeping everyone who ever signed up in the order they signed up so that is by far the fastest and easiest way to ensure you will get one of our kits. Thanks for your interest in our kit! Please let me know if you have any issues or if I can assist in any way with the process!

Brad, thanks for coming over to the dark side  >:D haha- we appreciate! We have used both the old school metal receivers and the poly-coated newer models and both seem to work great. The bedding block in our kit holds them all nice and tight, regardless of the finish on the receiver, since the friction the stock puts on the receiver is not the primary means by which the action is secured. I would say, go with whatever you can find that is most cost effective. You can't really go wrong with either one!

Hope that helps guys! Thanks so much for your time and interest and please let me know if I can do anything else to assist!

Cheers,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: devlmaycry on March 26, 2013, 10:26:06 AM
I know from a company stand point, if it was up to HTA it would be out by now. Howeverl, it's been 2 weeks since the lawyers gave the nod, and almost a year since we were told videos soon "on youtube and our website." The only video I've been able to find is the sonic boom targets one where it's shown for an oh-so brief and glorious few seconds. So, is it just a waiting game on parts now, or more specifically, are we still in an indefinite "Coming Soon!" status or near an official date of expected product release?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on March 27, 2013, 09:34:22 AM
Hey Devlmaycry!

Thanks for the great questions- you are absolutely right, if it were up to anyone here, these would have been out a year ago. We are VERY sorry for the delays. Again, if we had it our way these would be out, and if we got our second choice, we wouldn't have announced it until we had something 100% ready.

We did get the nod from the lawyer, but he is still finalizing smaller things like the instruction manual. I've seen the sample one and we'll just say he's covering every base for us. We also must then take his assessment and get the insurance company rolling on the liability policy for these. We have almost every part ready and in inventory, but are still waiting on a few smaller ones. The good news is, as soon as they come in, these should be ready to ship from an assembly standpoint. Everything else is done on the first couple waves of kits.

Hope that info helps. We know how excruciating this is and we feel terrible about it. But we're going to do the things that are painful now, so we don't have to later. We really do appreciate you guys hanging tough. Our videos (assembly and promo) is still on the cutting room floor, hopefully we'll have something soon for you. We are just waiting on the editors to clean it up, add some graphics/effects etc. We will post the second we have it!

Thanks again for the great questions! Please let me know if I can assist in any way!

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: javaduke on March 27, 2013, 09:39:44 AM
Andy, you have mentioned the inventory - I'm wondering if you would be able to give us any estimate of how large your initial batch will be. Something tells me the demand exceeds the supply by several figures :) Just curious if I can reasonably expect to have mine before all firearms in California will be completely banned  ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on March 27, 2013, 11:06:17 AM
Hey Java!

Thanks for the great question! Have no fear, we should have enough for everyone, although we may limit each customer to one or two at the most so people further down the list can still get one. There aren't too many people ordering more than 1, but a few here or there adds up pretty quick. We also have a very good relationship with our suppliers and backup suppliers so they are willing to work with us on scheduling to ensure we can have stuff in the works even before we need more parts.

Hope that helps eliminate some of your concern Java! We promise we will do whatever we can to make sure you get one!

Regards,

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gregchico on March 28, 2013, 09:25:44 PM
You can tell your lawyer that I wave my rights to sue you if I'm too stupid to figure it out....


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on March 28, 2013, 10:32:34 PM
You can tell your lawyer that I wave my rights to sue you if I'm too stupid to figure it out....


+1!     :excited!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Morph on March 29, 2013, 09:16:39 AM
Andy, any ideas on payment from non US buyers? I'm in the UK.
I've been watching this with interest for quite a while & purchased a 1022 just for the purpose of dropping it in your stock.
I registered on your site & the mailing list a while back but I know theres a whole lot of people ahead of me  :D

Andy I wondered if you had any news on non US ordering & payment yet?
Many thanks


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on March 29, 2013, 02:49:28 PM
Hey Gang!

Thanks for the great comments and for checking in. We wish it were as simple as having everyone sign a waiver. We just really want to protect you all and ourselves as best we can. When we have something that is 100% ready, we'll release it! Thanks so much guys,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: thirdjoker on March 30, 2013, 09:04:39 AM
i have 5 22's but i didn't have a ruger 10/22. I paid $ 224 at gander mountain and am having a real hard time finding ammo now. where is it? I've already recieved a red dot sight,laser sight,5 bx-25 mags-with 3 more on order thru ruger on line. I just hope i can find ammo to be able to shoot this WHENEVER i get it.
SOON I HOPE.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: devlmaycry on April 04, 2013, 02:34:18 PM
I sure will be glad when I can take the cheap airsoft stock off my 10/22 and put a legitimate HTA made stock on it. Sure the stock is functional and fun to shoot, but it's nothing close to what the HTA one looks to be.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on April 06, 2013, 02:05:17 PM
I would just be happy to see the video that has been promised for some time.  


I would also love to see an assembly video where we could get an idea of just how well it's made compared to the ZK-22.   Curious to see the aluminum bedding block and how the charging handle works.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ToneDeath on April 07, 2013, 09:55:23 AM
I agree mavrick.  Andy please give us a little something to settle us down.
The Sonic Boom video was cool, just a little on the short side. It would be huge
to see it reviewed by GunBlast. He did a pretty good one on the ZK22.

TD


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: devlmaycry on April 09, 2013, 11:29:23 AM
TD,

Yeah, something to demonstrate that there's been progress made would be great. I'm sure there are countless hurdles they are having to overcome, but something solid to see would be awesome.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: FChuckP3 on April 09, 2013, 06:09:21 PM
I apologize if this was covered earlier, I was wondering how the faux suppressor was attached...
Can it be used with a bull barrel?
Does it attach to the stock or the barrel?
Thanks!.....
Already signed up for the newsletter....OD for me..


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on April 10, 2013, 05:59:03 AM
I think my subscription to the newsletter isn't working.  I've signed up loooonnnnnngggggg time ago, and I've never gotten one.  How do I get them, or did I sign up for something that doesn't exist?




Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on April 10, 2013, 06:59:26 AM
I don't think there has been a newsletter yet.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 10, 2013, 09:55:03 AM
Hey Guys!

Thanks for checking in! Video is still in the production phase but it's looking really good, despite the fact my face is in it ;) We are reshooting a scene from the assembly video we didn't love because of the camera angle, we should have that done pretty quick here and then we'll weave it into the current video. Thanks for bearing with us on that!

Thanks for signing up for our Newsletter FChuck! We appreciate it! The faux suppressor attaches via the extension on the front of the stock. It slips over the end and teeth guide it down a track. When it hits the bottom of the track you can give it a quarter turn to lock it in place. This system will work with both bull and taper barrels w/ front post sight. If it didn't attach the stock, you would probably be limited to one barrel or the other. That's part of the reason we chose to attach it to the stock itself. We'll keep an OD green here for you! Thanks again!

As for the newsletter, we have not sent anything out yet. The big reason is we don't have anything to sell yet haha. Sorry for all the delays guys! We are working overtime, leaning on people, begging, borrowing and stealing when we can. Anything to get these out. We don't say it often enough, but thank you guys, all of you, so much for your continued kindness, patience, and understanding. You guys are more than we deserve! Please let me know if I can help with anything else!

Andy and the team at HTA




Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ToneDeath on April 10, 2013, 12:58:48 PM
You have to give HTA a A+ for keeping in contact with their customer base unlike a lot of other manufactures. I'm torn between classic black or OD green. Maybe one of each.

TD


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on April 10, 2013, 02:44:26 PM
You have to give HTA a A+ for keeping in contact with their customer base

Hear, hear!  HTA does great work to maintain a relationship with its potential (and I'm assuming; current) customer base!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: bradfa on April 12, 2013, 07:18:32 PM
Andy,
I am planning to do a trigger job on my 10/22.  While doing the trigger job I was thinking about modifing the bolt release (grind down the heart shape catch) to make an automatic bolt release.  Will the automatic bolt release work with the 90/22 or should I not do the modification.  Thanks.

Alan


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NHPig on April 13, 2013, 07:11:45 AM
Boss just bought a Ruger .44 semi-automatic rifle, can't think of the model, but it looks like the 10/22.  Nice looking rifle.







It got me thinking....   ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: devlmaycry on April 14, 2013, 07:41:01 PM
Oh, or once HTA's stocks start flying off the shelves, and they're doing well... they could look at producing a product like the one that CMMG started to do that would allow people convert a real p90/ps90 into .22 ;) I would buy both.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on April 14, 2013, 07:48:14 PM
I'm just wondering if I can get one for my birthday in August or maybe for Christmas?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: FChuckP3 on April 21, 2013, 08:28:04 AM
It's been strangely quiet....


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on April 21, 2013, 02:32:14 PM
I know I am just waiting for an update and trying not to be pushy and ask for new information everyday like I want to.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ToneDeath on April 24, 2013, 08:09:49 AM
Maybe it's the calm before the storm. I sure hope so. I'm going through withdrawal over here, I need to build something.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 24, 2013, 02:02:42 PM
Hey gang!

Ok I am really really sorry about missing these- I monkeyed with some setting that I shouldn't have and I missed out on some stuff. Basically I only got one email for the first unread post and I didn't get an alert about the others. Anyway I'm here now- fashionably late! I'm sure Sgt_P thinks I'm an idiot now but he knew that long before this haha.

Thanks so much for keeping the buzz going and for the extremely kind words- yes this is the calm before the storm... it's coming...

I owe a big apology to Alan- sorry I missed your question. Yes an auto bolt release will work with our kit since you can access it from the magwell. However, we have our own version coming out after the 90/22 release that will have the auto release feature as well as an extended finger "pedal". Basically it will extend down an inch or so, until it is just short of the bottom of the magwell. At that point it takes a 90 degree turn giving you an actual pad to press instead of that knife edge like the current factory design. It's very ergonomic and it functions great. It should be available soon. An alert will go out on the newsletter about that as well.

Thanks again for hanging with us everyone. We are doing everything we can to produce these ASAP. Keep in touch and thank you, thank you, thank you!

Andy and the team at HTA





Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: shenku on April 24, 2013, 05:58:37 PM
Hi HTA,

New poster here.  I have an order in with RJ for the ZK-22.  Big respect to those guys, but it seems like they are swamped.  I would gladly order a 90/22 from HTA, but I'm a lefty.  It looks like you still don't have a solution for this.  Can you please let me know if you do?  If you had a lefty solution, I would buy today.  It's the only thing stopping me!

Thanks,

Aaron


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 25, 2013, 07:43:03 AM
Hey Aaron!

Thanks for the great question and welcome to the party! We are working on something for you guys absolutely! If you have signed up for the e-newsletter on our site, you'll receive alerts on all our new products, including the shell deflector. Once we get a little more money in the door from the 90/22, everything should fall into place pretty quickly. Sorry we can't help you lefties right out of the gate, but the deflector is on its way!

Thanks again Aaron, please let me know if I can do anything else to help!

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sly Dog on April 27, 2013, 10:56:47 AM
New poster here, but I've been reading for some time while waiting for the 90/22 release.
Andy, any problem shipping this stock to NY?
Some companies are no longer shipping anything to NY state (out of fear, I think) even though their parts are completely legal here.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: zeramant86 on April 29, 2013, 02:09:35 PM
I'm just curious as to when they'll actually be ready to ship. I discovered this kit late, but apparently they have had several delays already. It is still the best looking kit around in my opinion.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 29, 2013, 04:34:59 PM
Hey Sly and Zera!

Thanks for the posts and great questions!

We have had some delays, yes sir Zera. And we feel very bad about making you wait so long. We just want to make a product you guys will be happy with and proud to take to the range. That's our goal with the product. That, and to help us get off the ground so we can make some cool new stuff too! Thanks so much for your kind words and support Zera! It means a lot!

Welcome to the party Sly! Glad to have you on board! We will still ship to the 50 states, yes. Stocks are not illegal anywhere, unlike the laws your states passed which are by Constitutional and natural law are illegal everywhere. What you do with our stock/display item is entirely your business. All the same, we wish you all the best and happy shooting :)

Thanks so much guys!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: BellyUpFish on April 29, 2013, 10:08:53 PM
One question that is constantly asked but as of yet, remains unanswered:

Does HTA have an anticipated date to be ready to ship?



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sly Dog on April 30, 2013, 07:56:27 PM
Got my bull barrel in today for the 90/22. Wish I could stuff it into my ATI stock somehow so I can break it in.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: zeramant86 on May 01, 2013, 08:15:11 AM
No expected ship date yet, see the last post here.

http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=995.20


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NativeNinja747 on May 06, 2013, 03:29:36 PM
I'm really trying to be patient because I want this stock really bad..


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: dntam on May 07, 2013, 09:39:07 AM
Does the 90/22 have a drop safety ?  The RJF ZK22 trigger bar has enough mass to move when dropped. It has a glock style safety to prevent this. Is this an issue for the 90/22 ?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Diverx on May 07, 2013, 06:25:26 PM
I hate to do this, and I, as much as anyone who is excited about this stock, and who has been following the hopeful release, should be aware of the post that started this. It states:


Hello Everyone,

We at HTA have seen and heard a lot of hype about the recent Red Jacket stock kit and wanted to let everyone know that there is another option coming out even sooner. Please check out our website www.HighTowerArmory.com and let us know what you think. We are about 1-2 months from selling product. Please spread the word! We're almost there...

Thanks,

The team at High Tower Armory, LLC


To put it plainly, time's up. Deliver.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on May 07, 2013, 06:36:53 PM
I hate to do this, and I, as much as anyone who is excited about this stock, and who has been following the hopeful release, should be aware of the post that started this. It states:


Hello Everyone,

We at HTA have seen and heard a lot of hype about the recent Red Jacket stock kit and wanted to let everyone know that there is another option coming out even sooner. Please check out our website www.HighTowerArmory.com and let us know what you think. We are about 1-2 months from selling product. Please spread the word! We're almost there...

Thanks,

The team at High Tower Armory, LLC


To put it plainly, time's up. Deliver.

Have you ever tried to bring a product to market or start a business? Do you know just how much CYA goes into getting lawyers and insurance companies to sign off on stuff? Have you ever dealt with third party manufactures who keep pushing you back in the line because your order is only for 10 thousand units and not 1 million plus? For all we know a physical product could have been ready for market at that allotted time yet the ways of the world and Murphy always get involved and ruin things.

You know, I need to expand on this because its certainly a sensitive subject for me. HTA seems to be a relatively small shop, this looks to be the first product they are trying to put out. I think we can all agree that RJF is a much larger company, with significantly greater resources to create and manufacture product and yet look at how the ZK-22 rollout has gone. It seems to me, as an outsider, that HTA has observed the total cluster f*** that RJF has going on with their stock release, and that HTA is taking the extra time to have all their ducks in a row before they take any of your (or my) money. Its easy to get impatient, I know I've wanted this stock in my hands since the day I saw the announcement, BUT I would also like to see HTA succeed in their first product offering and be able to create more cool toys for me to play with.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on May 07, 2013, 07:19:27 PM
I agree with Jeff. There are many different aspects that go into creating a top of the line product and ensuring that the launch goes smoothly for all. From the legal requirements to ensuring to manufacturing requirements to what I am sure is a multitude of other things. Heck, I'm willing to accept the delays on the premise of them tweaking the product to ensure that it is a high quality, top of the line stock that will last for years.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mission critical on May 07, 2013, 07:47:08 PM
+100 to both jeffco55 and brian.z's posts.

Personally, I would rather wait for HTA (or any company, for that matter) to release a well-thought-out and "finished" product, rather than have the company rush to release an inferior product (that lacks sufficient QC review) into the marketplace, just to appease consumer demand.

From a small, fledgling business' perspective, to commit to the latter course of action, with subsequent negative backlash from the intended target market, may effectively signal the final tolling of that company's death knells.



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on May 07, 2013, 10:36:36 PM
Hip hip hooray!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mission critical on May 07, 2013, 11:01:21 PM
Hip hip hooray!

Please tell us that HTA just proceesed your order for a 90/22!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 08, 2013, 09:15:22 AM
Hello everyone!

Sorry for the late reply on this- lots of stuff being worked on here! Thanks for being patient!

What Diverx said is absolutely right. We have let this go on too long and we are more sorry than you can imagine for that. We want these out and we want them out yesterday. But what we want more is to send out a top notch, high quality product. Unfortunately, sometimes speed and quality don't go hand in hand. Sometimes you have to go to your suppliers and physically help operate the machines and pick out rejected parts on site, to get the process as correct as possible. Sometimes little hiccups happen and you get delayed. Sometimes things don't go as planned. Sometimes companies with deeper pockets do the same thing you do and beat you to the punch. But that's business. We're not complaining at all- because there are other times too. Other times when a die-hard fan base refuses to give up on you, even after you deserve being given up on. Other times when you get defended by people who have nothing to gain by doing it. Other times when you get emails from people saying how excited they to get one of the first. Other times when customers tell you they don't care how long the wait is because this is everything they were looking for in a stock. 

Again Diverx, we are extremely sorry for the delays and we hope you can forgive us for them. If not, we completely understand and wouldn't blame you or the hundreds of other 10/22 owners in waiting if you chose to go somewhere else. We just wanted to let you know that we are doing everything we can over here; getting up early, staying late, taking IOU's for paychecks, and yes, even going to work at our suppliers for 12 hour shifts to help tweak the process on site. We are willing to do anything to get these out, get them out fast, and get them out right. Thanks so much for being patient! We appreciate it!

As for you stubborn SOB's who keep backing up our rinky-dink operation, despite our lack of timeliness, all we can say is thank you. You guys have been awesome and more than we deserve. HTA will forever be grateful for your steadfastness. Thank you SO much!

Finally, to hit a question that was asked earlier by dntam (thanks so much by the way dntam!)- yes this stock does have a "Glock" style passive safety that disengages when the trigger is pulled to prevent the trigger actuator from firing the gun. Our kit also includes a manual front trigger safety which blocks the trigger from being pulled as well as an extension for the rear factory safety to truly lock up the sear and prevent misfires that could happen from something unrelated to our kit. We just didn't love the idea of our customers having to leave the actual 10/22 permanently on "fire" inside the stock. If you follow the rules in our manual and basic firearm handling practices, it should be very hard to have an accident with one of these. They can happen of course and ultimately each owner is responsible for their own rifle, but we just wanted to makes sure we made the safest possible stock with safeties to prevent as many types of accidents as possible. Please let me know if that answers your question or if you have any further questions regarding our product or service! Thanks so much for everything guys! From the kind words to the support, from the great questions to the gentle nudges that keep us focused on our task, we appreciate every single one of you who take the time to follow up with us! It means so much.

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: devlmaycry on May 08, 2013, 03:31:32 PM
I think people like diverx are getting restless, because lip service is cheap, and there hasn't been a delivery on anything that's been mentioned: no product video's, no product, and no newsletters (for ordering or otherwise).

I'm not trying to bag on HTA, Andy is always quick to reply to emails, and keeps the HTA forum well informed with what little he has to give us. Plus, I'm sure if HTA could have anticipated these serious delays they wouldn't have given timelines for any of it. On the flip side I'm sure if they do get solid info on delivery date for the videos, newsletters, and stock they will let us know.

All that being said, I'm still waiting for the HTA stock to be ready. It's not like my 10/22 is going anywhere in the meantime. So far, from the little bit that's available, it still appears superior to the few alternatives out there.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: turtlini on May 08, 2013, 03:38:34 PM
We'd all appreciate having more detailed information about what's done, what's on fire, what are today's challenges etc. Andy wouldn't have to name names if that would be problematic but knowing the list of outstanding obstacles and how they're being overcome would be much more satisfying than standing on the sidelines being reassured that HTA really really wants to ship soon.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Dan_Br on May 08, 2013, 04:11:30 PM
I am waiting for HTA, no matter what. I hope you also will put up a video on how to install this when it is available.
It will be a big help, Picture is worth a 1000 words and a moving picture is priceless
Thanks
Dan


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: devlmaycry on May 08, 2013, 05:11:00 PM
We'd all appreciate having more detailed information about what's done, what's on fire, what are today's challenges etc. Andy wouldn't have to name names if that would be problematic but knowing the list of outstanding obstacles and how they're being overcome would be much more satisfying than standing on the sidelines being reassured that HTA really really wants to ship soon.

this ^


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: scooterdude on May 08, 2013, 09:18:16 PM
Guys I've followed this stock for a while but I must admitt I have not had the diehard devotion that some of you have had. That being said... thumbs up to all you guys for not giving up on a company that is obviously worth waiting for. I don't think I could swallow as much crow as the staff a HTA has over these past months without even once loosing their cool.  Good form guys!!!
But here is my question. I see the HTA site has updated the product ordering page from "comming soon" to "Usually Ships in 24 Hours".
Does this mean (drumroll please) a light at the end of the tunnel? Are the stocks comming out soon? Or am I just late to the party?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on May 09, 2013, 06:12:59 AM
I have to admit that its hard to keep the faith after so many promises and still nothing.  It does make one question if there is or ever will be a 90/22 stock.  So far all we have seen is some pics on a website and a few seconds of video.  The video that has been promised has been on the cutting room floor for a year now.  Does it really take that long to post a short video?   Even RJF was able to post a cell phone video of a generic torture test after people started demanding one...  I hope there really is a stock and this is not just a very well executed hoax.

Andy, you say you have most of the parts and you're just waiting on lawyers and a few small parts.  If that is so, could you post a few photos of the stockpile of stocks that you have waiting?  Surely a few photos of stocks piled up will be easier to put together than that video...  Just so that we know the 90/22 is legit and it really will be coming soon.  I think that would go a long way in helping people keep the faith.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: peyegee on May 09, 2013, 07:47:35 AM
I have also been keeping the faith for over a year now and just now joined this forum.


I'm surprised no one other than me found this and mentioned it. 

 http://vimeo.com/m/59975420

Getcha Kleenex kids!

Happy Thursday!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: javaduke on May 09, 2013, 08:12:51 AM
I'm surprised that no one (including Andy himself) mentioned this video before, nor the video is available at the HTA web site.

What can I say? Unless the video is 100% computer-generated (great job, LucasFilm...errr....Disney!), we are looking at the top quality product here. The only challenge is that I don't see any way to re-use standard Ruger rotary mags, even my small hand won't fit  into that pocket deep enough to secure the mag in the action (not to mention various dirty thoughts that I might get during this process...and upset my wife), so I would have to purchase some banana mags just for this setup. OK, no big deal, No problem with mag release either, I'll simply buy one of those from VQ or other manufacturers, you know, the extended release that looks like a straight pin. Cleaning also might be a problem, but I use bore snakes and Otis anyway, so no biggie, as long as I can lock the bolt back. And I guess I can tolerate some dirt, I don't expect this gun to be sub-MOA at 100 yes, different design and different purpose.

Anyway, as some here say, STFU and take my money!!! :)



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 09, 2013, 08:48:33 AM
Hey gang!

Haha you guys found the vimeo video! That was actually supposed to be for us and our video editor only but he forgot to put a password on it this time. Sorry about that. There is still a little clean up left to be done on it yet. We are finishing up that project soon. Part of the reason we didn't want to release that yet was because we didn't have our manual completely green lighted by the insurance guys/lawyers. Since the warnings should be very similar, we had to find out the exact wordage first. But yes, you are looking at the guts of the 90/22. It is not some clever ploy to get all your hopes up. We want to sell these!

Today's challenges, as per your requests: Getting reading materials printed. We got the go ahead on the manual and are waiting for our print shop to finish printing. This is a relatively quick process (a few days maybe). Then they start shipping. It's as simple as that. We are still getting our assembly system streamlined so we can make as many as quickly as possible. But it is a slow process. We are meticulous with each unit and each 90/22 is getting inspected by a final inspector who won't release a unit in question until it has had it's functions checked, eg smooth trigger, smooth charging handle, general appearance etc. He will then initial the manual which will ensure that he takes responsibility for that unit and that if we see recurring issues from the same inspector, we can retrain him if necessary. I will post a picture as soon as I can of our boxes and boxes and bags and boxes of parts. We have a lot... it's a little overwhelming to be honest, but that's ok. We'd rather have it this way than the other way.

Thanks again for everything guys. We know this has been a long time coming but we sure hope you all are glad you waited once your new 90/22 arrives in the mail! Please let me know if you need anything else from us or if we can help in ANY way. Thanks so much,

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: punkgarn on May 09, 2013, 09:34:32 AM
First time posting but have been following this thread since page 2.  Just wanted to say thanks to Andy for keeping us updated.  Also, even if it was an accidental leak, the video was great to see and has made me confirm that I am happy that I decided to wait for your stock.  Thanks for all the hard work you guys are doing over there in HTA land.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on May 09, 2013, 10:15:27 AM
So, that's what you look like Andy!! It's nice to put a face to the replies! Loved the video and can't wait to order! I'm sure it will be well worth it!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Morph on May 09, 2013, 01:04:51 PM
Andy, any news on payment for international orders yet?
Last I heard you were working on a system to get the orders out in the order of subscribers to the newsletter.
Cheers.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on May 09, 2013, 04:06:29 PM
After seeing that video, I for one have had my faith renewed!

The two top things I pulled from that video is:

1. The HTA Stock will be worth waiting for and appears to be head and shoulders above the RJF ZK-22 stock.  The assembly alone seems far easier than the ZK.

2.  Andy is MUCH younger than I expected.  His consistent professional manner is far beyond his years.  I was expecting someone at least in their mid 30s.  He will go far in life...


I have no doubt that the HTA will be a huge success when it does finally ship.  
 


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gregchico on May 09, 2013, 04:46:58 PM
Andy, who bought the rifle for you?  You don't even look old enough to buy one.  Looks like a great, well thought out design.

I applaud your efforts and hope you enjoy a lot of success.  I look forward to seeing you work in person.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: turtlini on May 09, 2013, 04:55:01 PM
Andy delivers! Thanks for the production update, it makes the wait a lot more fun.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on May 09, 2013, 06:11:43 PM
Excellent video, Andy and crew!  The only complaint I have about it is the audio (the voice-over comes in only the right channel).  Looks like a GREAT product, and now I'm really considering the desert tan!  It looks really slick!  Even without the ammo box, it is a good looking stock!

Wow, a few days away.  Woohoo!     :--*


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on May 09, 2013, 08:53:56 PM
Seeing that video has made me very happy, even if, and maybe a little because, I wasn't supposed to see it. The stock looks magnificent and I can't wait to get it onto the range. Guess I have to save some .22 ammo.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ToneDeath on May 10, 2013, 07:41:41 AM
Can someone make this link hot? It's not very iPad friendly and when I try and access it with a PC it wants to down load another tool bar that wants to take over something else......  I know I and I'm sure others sure could use a little HTA reinforcement.

 http://vimeo.com/m/59975420


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Darkmage on May 10, 2013, 08:59:15 AM
I hate to do this, and I, as much as anyone who is excited about this stock, and who has been following the hopeful release, should be aware of the post that started this. It states:
[snip]
To put it plainly, time's up. Deliver.
You know, there's enough of that whiny crap over in the ZK-22 forums for three websites. Don't bring that crap in here.

If you don't like the production delays, feel free to demand a refund from High Tower Arms for your entire pre-purchase price. I'm sure they'll be happy to refund you every last cent that you gave them so far. Hell, I'll bet you $5 that HTA will get you what you are owed faster than Red Jacket Firearms will.

Oh, what's that? HTA doesn't actually have any of your money? Well, how about that...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on May 10, 2013, 12:27:21 PM
I hate to do this, and I, as much as anyone who is excited about this stock, and who has been following the hopeful release, should be aware of the post that started this. It states:
[snip]
To put it plainly, time's up. Deliver.
You know, there's enough of that whiny crap over in the ZK-22 forums for three websites. Don't bring that crap in here.

If you don't like the production delays, feel free to demand a refund from High Tower Arms for your entire pre-purchase price. I'm sure they'll be happy to refund you every last cent that you gave them so far. Hell, I'll bet you $5 that HTA will get you what you are owed faster than Red Jacket Firearms will.

Oh, what's that? HTA doesn't actually have any of your money? Well, how about that...

Hahaha!  Hear, hear!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mission critical on May 10, 2013, 02:09:11 PM
I hate to do this, and I, as much as anyone who is excited about this stock, and who has been following the hopeful release, should be aware of the post that started this. It states:
[snip]
To put it plainly, time's up. Deliver.
You know, there's enough of that whiny crap over in the ZK-22 forums for three websites. Don't bring that crap in here.

If you don't like the production delays, feel free to demand a refund from High Tower Arms for your entire pre-purchase price. I'm sure they'll be happy to refund you every last cent that you gave them so far. Hell, I'll bet you $5 that HTA will get you what you are owed faster than Red Jacket Firearms will.

Oh, what's that? HTA doesn't actually have any of your money? Well, how about that...

Hahaha!  Hear, hear!

+1.

Entitlement is such an insidious disease...

Also, in response to ToneDeath's request:

http://vimeo.com/m/59975420 (http://vimeo.com/m/59975420)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on May 10, 2013, 02:26:27 PM
Entitlement is such an insidious disease...
I don't like the implication of your statement and demand that you treat me better...  You owe me that because I deserve it.

On a serious note, I think I have watched the 5 second snippet of the HTA 90/22 from the Sonic Boom video about 167 times and it keeps getting better every single time I see it.
http://youtu.be/N8x8xqZzD8w?t=11s


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: devlmaycry on May 10, 2013, 02:58:56 PM
The first 7 minutes of the video looks like something my Army Public Affairs unit would put together. The production value of the last 3 minutes jumps dramatically and looks like what they would like to put together.

Super excited to see this finally, final cut or not!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ToneDeath on May 10, 2013, 08:43:46 PM
Thanks mc for that hot video. I watched that three times, just can't get enough. It looks like a very well thought out design and I like the metal charging Handle and cross bolt safety. I'm glad I didn't make any quick decisions on a similar bullpup. The only concern I might have would be the trigger rod assembly. That's a lot of bent rod with little adjustment other than sliding the barrel receiver and tightening the bedding block bolt. I'm finally glad to see some real footage, this should quiet down the skeptics for awhile.  I think I'll watch it again.  ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mission critical on May 10, 2013, 09:32:46 PM
Thanks mc for that hot video. I watched that three times, just can't get enough. It looks like a very well thought out design and I like the metal charging Handle and cross bolt safety. I'm glad I didn't make any quick decisions on a similar bullpup. The only concern I might have would be the trigger rod assembly. That's a lot of bent rod with little adjustment other than sliding the barrel receiver and tightening the bedding block bolt. I'm finally glad to see some real footage, this should quiet down the skeptics for awhile.  I think I'll watch it again.  ;D

Glad to be able to assist.

And just in case you needed it, brian.z's link made hot:

http://youtu.be/N8x8xqZzD8w?t=11s (http://youtu.be/N8x8xqZzD8w?t=11s)



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: 124C41 on May 11, 2013, 02:15:49 AM
You do look young Andy, but you're very articulate.

I hope to buy a stock from you soon!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: punkgarn on May 11, 2013, 07:03:46 AM
Weapon-Owners.com has one they put together and are going to do a review on it!!!!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on May 11, 2013, 10:01:46 AM
Weapon-Owners.com has one they put together and are going to do a review on it!!!!

I clicked on the link, then went to the forum (as the most likely location for reviews), but didn't find anything that looked likely.  The exercise did, however, lead me once again to the question I occasionally ask myself:  "I wonder if there's money in offering editing services to webmasters/admins?"  It drives me crazy to see a possessive ('s) used to denote a plural, especially on a document intended for public consumption.  Ah, but I digress...  What were we talking about, again?  

Hahahahaha!!! :ROFLMAO


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on May 11, 2013, 10:21:37 AM
I had to use the googles but I found the thread.  They haven't posted the review yet but they have the kit and have posted pictures.
http://www.weapon-owners.com/newforum/index.php?topic=26.0

I don't know how to make it a clickable link.  Sorry.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mission critical on May 11, 2013, 10:57:41 AM
I had to use the googles but I found the thread.  They haven't posted the review yet but they have the kit and have posted pictures.
http://www.weapon-owners.com/newforum/index.php?topic=26.0

I don't know how to make it a clickable link.  Sorry.


http://www.weapon-owners.com/newforum/index.php?topic=26.0 (http://www.weapon-owners.com/newforum/index.php?topic=26.0)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 11, 2013, 11:22:30 AM
Hello one and all!

Sorry I went dark for a couple days- lots to do and assemble and just all around get ready for. I am trying to play a little catch up today so thanks for bearing with us!

For starters- yes I'm a young pup. 22 years young to be exact, although I have always looked a lot younger than I am. I hope you guys don't hold it against HTA too much. Everyone who was older than me was wise enough not to get involved! I joke of course- the opportunity to work at HTA has been a blessing far beyond anything I could have imagined. Thanks for all the kind words about my performance thus far. I can only hope that you feel the same way if/when I hit 30!

Hey ToneDeath- I appreciate your concern on the rod design but I can assure you these rods are all well made, well tracked, and VERY resistant to flex. It took us several suppliers before we found one with the CNC bending equipment that could do the level of precision we were looking for in an alloy of steel that was as hard as we wanted. In any event, they all seem to work fine for us and haven't caused any issues yet.

I attached a few pictures of our stockpile (a rather fitting word in this case). First image is of just one of our many shelves with boxes of parts. The next images are individual boxes of some parts, including the triggers, aluminum sight rails, and completed gun stocks bagged and waiting for a box with the proper shipping label. I'll try to take some the next time I go to a supplier. It's fun to watch the molds run.

Andy, who bought the rifle for you?  You don't even look old enough to buy one.  Looks like a great, well thought out design.


Haha thanks Greg- truth be told, one of the 10/22's in the video was my first rimfire rifle. I got it when I was 12 or so. So, yes, my dad bought it :) good call. I do have several guns in my name now though, including my very own 10/22. A lot of people my age looked forward to their 21st so they could go out to the bars. I looked forward to mine so I could get a conceal carry permit and a few "assault weapons". But at any rate, age is just a number and I certainly hope that I can meet all of your guys' expectations. If I ever screw up, we'll just chalk it up to me being an ignorant 20-something with more bravado than brains.  :D

Thanks so much gang! Please let me know if I can do anything else to help!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on May 11, 2013, 11:27:45 AM

http://www.weapon-owners.com/newforum/index.php?topic=26.0 (http://www.weapon-owners.com/newforum/index.php?topic=26.0)
I see what you did there.  Thanks.

Andy, thanks for those pictures.  Everything looks like it is moving along and I know my excitement level is increasing with every new post.  I have actually started going through my Spam mail folder on a daily basis to make sure I don't miss The E-mail. 

Any word on payment options?  Should I start saving up Sacagawea dollar coins?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 11, 2013, 11:51:09 AM
Hey Brian!

Ya sorry everything looks really messy in the pictures. As you can imagine we are moving pretty fast around here and stuff gets a little less than orderly around here.

As for payment we are going to send out a hidden webpage's URL that can be clicked on. It will take you to a duplicate page of what is currently on the site, only instead of "coming soon" it will say "add to cart". You can then purchase with a credit card at that point. Seems like the easiest system anyway. Let me know if that will be an acceptable means of payment. At least you won't have to pay the postage on 20 pounds of Sacajawea dollars.

Thanks Brian,

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on May 11, 2013, 12:39:45 PM
I don't see a mess, I see progress.

Your payment idea sounds great.  Looking forward to seeing that e-mail. 


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: devlmaycry on May 11, 2013, 12:43:09 PM
Lot's of big updates in the last few days! The pics of the parts and the "leak" of the assembly video have been a great boost. Thanks for the updates Andy!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ToneDeath on May 11, 2013, 03:34:59 PM
Leak or part of the marketing strategy. I wonder what other parts are made of polymer, the fake suppressor, the trigger group?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: llama666 on May 11, 2013, 09:10:37 PM
Any word on the option for Southpaws? I know it wasn't in the original design, but I hope you've gotten enough interest from lefties to move forward on that.
 :?!?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: dntam on May 11, 2013, 11:26:32 PM
Great video. I would like to see a close up of the trigger group and trigger bar in place.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: kipy on May 13, 2013, 10:18:41 AM
Is anyone else paranoid that the day will come that you receive your long awaited email from High Tower only to have it go right to your spam folder never to be seen? It keeps me up at night. Any way we could get a test email confirmation to make sure all runs smoothly? A test of the emergency broadcast so to speak...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on May 13, 2013, 12:47:28 PM
+1 great idea.

A test email just saying this is a test would be great.  I would flag it so I would get a special alert when the real email arrives.  Have my CC ready to go!!! :)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: firebert on May 14, 2013, 01:57:49 AM
Wow this is very exciting. My favorite part about the HTA bullpup is the bolt hold open can still be accessed, the faux supressor makes it look good with the standard barrel, and they don't short you side rails like the other guys.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on May 14, 2013, 07:01:46 AM
Just so everyone knows, HTA just posted a snippet of a test video on Facebook. Looks great.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mission critical on May 14, 2013, 02:18:53 PM
Thanks for the heads-up, brian.z.

Facebook link below:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4610377949215&set=vb.165210736924326&type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4610377949215&set=vb.165210736924326&type=2&theater)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on May 14, 2013, 03:25:25 PM
Hey Andy,

Have a product request.  Any chance of HTA making a hellfire trigger adapter that will work with the 90/22?


Only thing I can think of that would make the 90/22 cooler. :)


Thanks!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: kipy on May 14, 2013, 06:58:13 PM
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=0zpPiQbbL0g&feature=youtu.be&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0zpPiQbbL0g%26feature%3Dyoutu.be


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mission critical on May 14, 2013, 07:25:40 PM
Thanks for the link, kipy!

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=0zpPiQbbL0g&feature=youtu.be&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0zpPiQbbL0g%26feature%3Dyoutu.be (http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=0zpPiQbbL0g&feature=youtu.be&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0zpPiQbbL0g%26feature%3Dyoutu.be)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on May 14, 2013, 08:14:10 PM
Great review.  I was squirming a bit in my seat when it appeared that there was a person working the camera in front of the firing line, but that's just my hang-up.  I also would have enjoyed seeing him run a stock 10rd Ruger magazine through it, but that's a minor thing.  I am sure they will work just fine with the stock.  I was also excited to hear that Andy is looking at producing a magazine release extension to allow users to easily pop the magazine out.  Overall, while I never doubted the quality, this review seems to prove HTA is releasing a quality stock and it has me even more excited about getting one. 


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mission critical on May 14, 2013, 08:40:10 PM
Great review.  I was squirming a bit in my seat when it appeared that there was a person working the camera in front of the firing line, but that's just my hang-up.  I also would have enjoyed seeing him run a stock 10rd Ruger magazine through it, but that's a minor thing.  I am sure they will work just fine with the stock.  I was also excited to hear that Andy is looking at producing a magazine release extension to allow users to easily pop the magazine out.  Overall, while I never doubted the quality, this review seems to prove HTA is releasing a quality stock and it has me even more excited about getting one. 

Hahahahahaha... I hear ya, brian.z!

Between about the 7:00 mark through 7:30 mark, I was clenching ass cheeks each time the barrel flagged the camera man!

There were a few moments in the vid when it seemed like the reviewer was just about to peer down the fake suppressor on the 90/22!

Regardless, very happy to see the 90/22 stock in operation, and as brian.z mentioned, I can't wait to see what HTA has planned for the extended mag release and shell deflector modifications for left-handed shooters.

Good luck to Andy and the rest of the good folks at HTA!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on May 14, 2013, 08:53:27 PM
Great Review!   Glad to see things finally coming together.  Can't wait to order one (maybe all three!)


Looks like the HTA stock really trumps the ZK-22!   Glad I cancelled my order with RJF.  I would be sick if I had that stock now.  I almost feel sorry for those guys.  As long as they waited, then a better one comes out...



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 15, 2013, 04:22:55 PM
Hey guys! Thanks for the kind words about the product! We're all very excited you guys feel the way you do about the kit! A kit is in the works that will help the lefties out there. Also we had considered doing something in the way of crank/bumpfire kit for this but there would be a lot of moving parts to try to work into something like that. For now we'll focus on the 90/22, but if we come up with a good design we'll let you know! Please let us know if we can do anything else or if you have any other questions!

Andy and the gang at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: turtlini on May 22, 2013, 03:07:10 PM
Hey Andy, what's this week's update?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: bradfa on May 24, 2013, 06:00:25 PM
What do you guys think.  Should I do a trigger job on my 10/22 before I install it in the HTA stock?

Any thoughts Andy.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on May 24, 2013, 06:21:40 PM
I second the update! I'm hoping to order this for my bday on the 17th of june! Would be a great present!!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ToneDeath on May 24, 2013, 07:46:39 PM
What do you guys think.  Should I do a trigger job on my 10/22 before I install it in the HTA stock?

Any thoughts Andy.

Your best trigger pull on a 10/22 is going to be your bare finger on a reworked / custom trigger. Anytime you add trigger bars and linkage to the to the process of pulling that trigger I believe you lose that feel. That being said, the best possible trigger pull you can have before it goes into any bullpup stock the better off you'll be. There are many aftermarket trigger parts available and gunsmiths that can tweak your trigger assembly. Hammer & Sear, over travel stop and auto bolt release are some things you may want to do before it goes into a stock. Anyone else want to weigh in.
 


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 25, 2013, 03:19:40 PM
Hey Guys!

Thanks for all the great posts and for being patient with my response. I let this go a little longer than I'd have liked but as you can all imagine we have been beyond busy. We are planning on opening up orders to the first 50 or so customers this weekend (possibly this afternoon). Assuming everything goes well and we don't encounter too many bugs with the payment system, we will open it up to larger batches of 100-200 customers at a time. We hope to go through all these batches in a matter of weeks. Our goal is to minimize what has already been an extremely lengthy weight. We appreciate all you guys have done and we can never truly express how grateful we are for how cool you guys have been about everything. Thank goodness we didn't take any money! Please keep in touch and if there is ever anything extremely pressing feel free to email me directly. I do my best to answer those immediately except some weekends if I am out of the office.

Also, as ToneDeath pointed out (thanks by the way!) a good trigger in the 10/22 will definitely improve the feel of the 90/22 trigger. We really like the Valquartsen match hammer. It's only about $35 but it reduces the weight of the trigger pull by about 50%. Dollar for dollar, it is by far the best value we have seen in terms of "triggers" which can run as much as a couple hundred bucks. ToneDeath is also absolutely right when he says a bullpup will inherently eat up some of the feel of the trigger. That's just the nature of the beast. With bullpups there will be extra weight from the spring on the actuating rod, tiny amounts of friction, inertia from the actuating rod, etc. It all adds up and although on ours it isn't much, it still isn't exactly the same as a bare match trigger. Hopefully that makes sense. Please let me know if I can do anything else or if there are any other questions for HTA!

Cheers,

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on May 25, 2013, 03:42:21 PM
AWESOME!  ;D  Glad to hear it! Maybe I will be able to get this for my birthday afterall! Hope I'm early on the list!

Congrats with the progress HTA!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on May 25, 2013, 04:07:37 PM
I'd still like to know where we stand on the waiting list.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gregchico on May 25, 2013, 04:37:35 PM
Sorry your hamburgers and hotdogs are burnt guys, I had to check my email 3 times while I was cooking on the BBQ.....



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on May 25, 2013, 04:59:17 PM
At least the Spam boxes of our e-mails will not feel neglected for the next few weeks. 


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ToneDeath on May 25, 2013, 05:35:21 PM
I could feel the release was very close. I also wonder where I am on the list.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on May 25, 2013, 06:18:55 PM
Placing my order now!!!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ToneDeath on May 25, 2013, 06:51:39 PM
Placing my order now!!!

So you have recieved e-mail conformation from HTA that you can now place your order?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on May 25, 2013, 06:55:35 PM
Placing my order now!!!

So you have recieved e-mail conformation from HTA that you can now place your order?

Yes


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on May 25, 2013, 07:18:54 PM
Placing my order now!!!
What type of shipping options are there?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: CWood on May 25, 2013, 07:30:53 PM
Just got off the phone with HTA. I was told only a limited number will go out at first to make sure the ordering system is operating smooth with no issues. Order only if you receive the email from HTA. Once that checks out, more will go out. It's GREAT to know the 90/22 is shipping out. As for shipping options, I saw one. USPS Priority Mail at $20.55.

For those of you looking for the Ruger BX-25 magazines, shopruger.com has them in stock for $31.95 + shipping.

http://shopruger.com/10_22-BX-25-Magazine/productinfo/90361/


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on May 25, 2013, 07:46:18 PM
Awesome!  Can't wait to get my email. 

It's been a long wait, but I know it will be worth it!



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mission critical on May 25, 2013, 08:01:07 PM
Placing my order now!!!

So you have recieved e-mail conformation from HTA that you can now place your order?

Yes

Grats, jeffco55!

If I may ask, do you recall when you signed up?

April 2012, or thereabouts?

Regards,
MC


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on May 25, 2013, 08:38:54 PM
Placing my order now!!!

So you have recieved e-mail conformation from HTA that you can now place your order?

Yes

Grats, jeffco55!

If I may ask, do you recall when you signed up?

April 2012, or thereabouts?

Regards,
MC

The day of or the day following their announcement.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ToneDeath on May 25, 2013, 10:42:36 PM
Holy crap Batman, April 2012. I'll be waiting awhile. Keep one for me Andy.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: kipy on May 25, 2013, 11:49:29 PM
I just looked back to my first email from Andy, and it was May 6th of last year so I must have signed up sometime in early to mid April and got impatient by May. Talk about a lesson in patience lol. Hopefully I'll be getting an email very soon!  ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: BellyUpFish on May 26, 2013, 09:52:10 PM
I've been on the list since April '12.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on May 26, 2013, 09:56:32 PM
I haven't gotten an email yet


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on May 27, 2013, 01:27:30 AM
I haven't gotten an email yet

Same here, but I'm seeing a post or two claiming that they ordered the stock.  Um, what gives?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on May 27, 2013, 08:37:33 AM
I think the key is that they only sent out the e-mail to about 50 people or so. I imagine you'd have had to sign up pretty early to be that high on the list. I know if things go smoothly they will do a larger number next time. Those that signed up in April will probably be in the second or third waves at the latest.  Of course this is just conjecture.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: dntam on May 27, 2013, 10:43:40 AM
I hope they go out quicker than RJF. Getting an HTA stock 6-8 months from now is not going to work,


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 27, 2013, 11:38:44 AM
Hey Guys!

Happy Memorial Day! Everyone at HTA hopes you are all having a wonderful day of remembrance and thanksgiving for the men and women who have paid the ultimate price for freedom.

I'm just writing to let you all know that we did release a very limited number of newsletter emails to test the waters so to speak. We will be releasing more tomorrow, once we ship the first ones in line. We will probably be cautious with the number we release for a little while, until we get a handle on demand, but soon we hope to be shipping in large quantity. We will work TIRELESSLY to ensure the wait for even those at the bottom of the list is as short as possible. Everyone here even gave up their holiday weekend to work. We care about you guys and want nothing more than to see you get the product you've been chasing for so long. Please let me know if I can assist in any way! Thanks so much guys!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gryfox23 on May 27, 2013, 05:10:25 PM
Ordered! I can't wait!!!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: defcon on May 27, 2013, 08:52:28 PM
andy,

great job on the stock.  just saw the installation and looks easy.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jassonvoorhees on May 28, 2013, 10:44:32 AM
(http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jassonbauer/A8AAAAC5-6F92-473F-B662-AC9651CA0E72-2546-000002E1D4231C6F_zps1f6535f1.jpg) (http://s916.photobucket.com/user/jassonbauer/media/A8AAAAC5-6F92-473F-B662-AC9651CA0E72-2546-000002E1D4231C6F_zps1f6535f1.jpg.html)

(http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jassonbauer/7DB51FF1-2B7A-4CDF-B5E0-221B48AF0F94-2546-00000305B511796E_zps92686c6b.jpg) (http://s916.photobucket.com/user/jassonbauer/media/7DB51FF1-2B7A-4CDF-B5E0-221B48AF0F94-2546-00000305B511796E_zps92686c6b.jpg.html)

(http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jassonbauer/CDA569F8-7E9C-4C34-8D20-92C5994B0CFF-2546-0000030C8AF8A0FD_zps95e1e9a1.jpg) (http://s916.photobucket.com/user/jassonbauer/media/CDA569F8-7E9C-4C34-8D20-92C5994B0CFF-2546-0000030C8AF8A0FD_zps95e1e9a1.jpg.html)

(http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jassonbauer/F0B03E36-2574-460A-B950-A0F617BF8654-2546-0000030CD9A7C144_zps62541abf.jpg) (http://s916.photobucket.com/user/jassonbauer/media/F0B03E36-2574-460A-B950-A0F617BF8654-2546-0000030CD9A7C144_zps62541abf.jpg.html)

(http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jassonbauer/CCE73EB2-16D6-434D-8FDE-1676E14C2B63-2546-0000030C55EEAFEF_zpse0cf220d.jpg) (http://s916.photobucket.com/user/jassonbauer/media/CCE73EB2-16D6-434D-8FDE-1676E14C2B63-2546-0000030C55EEAFEF_zpse0cf220d.jpg.html)

(http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad1/jassonbauer/70D66471-B544-4C01-B047-7C1DA711A413-2546-0000030D2F33F0D4_zpsd462041a.jpg) (http://s916.photobucket.com/user/jassonbauer/media/70D66471-B544-4C01-B047-7C1DA711A413-2546-0000030D2F33F0D4_zpsd462041a.jpg.html)



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gryfox23 on May 28, 2013, 09:17:49 PM
Definitely gonna need a more extended mag release! That one (same as mine) just ain't gonna cut it!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on May 29, 2013, 06:20:54 AM
For anyone who has ordered their stock, how is the process?  Have you received shipping confirmation?  Got the stock yet?  Any difficulties?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: 124C41 on May 29, 2013, 07:18:53 AM
How does the length of pull compare to the P90? Looks like it might be slightly longer.


You guys taunting me with pictures.... Looks good.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gryfox23 on May 29, 2013, 07:54:28 AM
I placed my order on the night of the 27th. On the mornin of the 28th, I got a confirmation email that my order was received and that my order number was 23. I have t gotten a "shipped" email yet but I am anxiously waiting!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 29, 2013, 08:24:08 AM
Hey guys!

Thanks so much for the great pics Jasson!

Hey GryFox- your order shipped yesterday afternoon. We are still trying to get all the notification emails working but it sounds like at least a few of our customers did get their emails. In any even, with priority, you should have it the weekend. We are trying very hard to have everyone's packages in the mail by the day following their order. Please let me know if you ever do not receive a "shipped" confirmation. Thanks!

Hello C124- The length of pull is slightly longer (about 2 inches) but in many ways we feel this was an improvement. Your cheek weld seems to be much more natural now as your face isn't forced closer to your shoulder dues to the edge on the magazine. There is a relatively wide open buttstock for finding the best possible weld. Hope that helps!

Thanks so much guys, for everything! As always, if there is anything I can do to assist, please just holler.  Cheers,


Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on May 29, 2013, 08:32:33 AM
 Thanks for the update Andy!  I'll accept you're offer for assistance, send me an email for purchase!  ;D   just in time for my b-day! Thanks for the pics, stock looks amazing and I'm overly excited about this! Can't wait to get it in my hands. Way to go HTA it's pay  day for your hard work.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: bradfa on May 29, 2013, 09:58:57 AM
Andy,  I signed up for the newsletter in March.  Do you have an estimate when I will get an email to order the stock?  I am really looking forward to getting the stock.  Thanks.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gryfox23 on May 29, 2013, 12:52:19 PM


Hey GryFox- your order shipped yesterday afternoon. We are still trying to get all the notification emails working but it sounds like at least a few of our customers did get their emails. In any even, with priority, you should have it the weekend. We are trying very hard to have everyone's packages in the mail by the day following their order. Please let me know if you ever do not receive a "shipped" confirmation. Thanks!


Andy, thanks for letting me know. I've already danced a jig cause I can't wait for this thug to get here. Now, what else, as far as accessories or upgrades, do you have available that can be purchased?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: kipy on May 29, 2013, 07:55:10 PM
YES!!!  Just placed my order! OD Green for me, customer # 47.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on May 29, 2013, 09:17:54 PM
Order number 51 here. Also, it appears that they have gone to the next group of e-mails. My customer number is 140.  Keep an eye out.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: 124C41 on May 30, 2013, 05:11:08 AM
 ::) yay
 Order 67 here.

I think I signed up for the news letter in late May/early June 2012. I'm showing to be customer 150.

The notification email was in my Spam Box.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on May 30, 2013, 07:33:17 AM
So, Jealous of you guys! What was the name in your email in the "From" column and what was the subject of the email? So, I know what to look for. I've been diligently checking my SPAM too just in case.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on May 30, 2013, 07:38:52 AM
The sender was "noreply@hightowerarmory.com" and the subject was "HTA 90/22 Order Info". 


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: kipy on May 30, 2013, 10:14:54 AM
so what kind of sling setup should we be looking at? I see there's a an "urban ert"  that looks pretty sweet for the ps90 but not sure if it's compatible. Does Hta have any recommendations or pictures of rigs that have worked well?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 30, 2013, 02:33:42 PM
Hey Kipy and others!

Kipy: Thanks for the great question! On our facebook page is a pic of a setup we really like. We run EOTech on our favorite rig but we also like to use micro red dots like Burris's and some of the other small ones. A good CQ scope is always a pleasure too. Just boils down to personal preference. Thanks again for the question!

GryFox: Thanks for providing the opportunity to advertise! As far as accessories we have many, many accessories in the works. Shell deflectors, extended mag releases, magazine couplers for stacking 10 round mags, integrally flash suppressed barrels, extended bolt hold open, and many other cool toys! All in the works! We will do the same thing with those accessories that we did with the 90/22. The sooner you signed up, the sooner you'll have the chance to get one. Thanks so much guys!

Andy and the team at HTA



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gregchico on May 30, 2013, 03:08:15 PM
Order 83...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 30, 2013, 03:13:43 PM
Thanks Gregchico and all the other purchasers of 90/22's! We truly appreciate your business. If there is anything at all we can do to help, presale or postsale, please say the word. Thanks again gang!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on May 30, 2013, 03:49:43 PM
So everyone knows, I did not receive a "shipped" e-mail but I checked my account on their page and it shows it shipped. Less than 24 hours from purchase to shipping. Think the folks on the Red Jacket forum are a little green?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 30, 2013, 04:01:36 PM
Hey Brian!

Thanks for the update! You didn't get a shipped email? Our software is supposedly set up to do that automatically. I will be looking into that ASAP. Thanks for the heads up my friend! And yes for anyone who is wondering, all orders placed before about 12 pm CST today are in the mail. Safe shooting gang!

Cheers,

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: bradfa on May 30, 2013, 04:01:44 PM
Less than 24 hours from purchase to shipping. Think the folks on the Red Jacket forum are a little green?

+1


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: kipy on May 30, 2013, 04:23:48 PM
lol I actually asked what sling options you recommend, but optics suggestions work as well. couldn't really rationalize a 500$+ eotech for a 22 but I did get a nice looking tru Glo.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: peyegee on May 30, 2013, 04:31:10 PM
...95. Twill be sweet! ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on May 30, 2013, 04:32:45 PM
I've got a tru glo reticle I had for my ar15 that was never used, sold the ar to get my UTS-15 and still have the truglo. Might use it in shotgun maybe 22. Might need a new one lol.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Mickey D on May 30, 2013, 05:55:55 PM
 Receive my e-mail today and order my HTA 90/22. Signed up may 8,2012 my order # was 79. YEA HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Crazybear1 on May 30, 2013, 06:43:02 PM
I was order 4 and it came today. No shipped email just said shipped on the hta web site. Said it shipped Tuesday. Looks good. Waiting to get my mag release put in before I install it. Great design. Can't wait to shoot this weekend


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gryfox23 on May 30, 2013, 10:40:49 PM
HOT DAMN!!! MINE CAME TODAY!!!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: in4speed98 on May 31, 2013, 02:20:46 AM
How can I find out what number I am on the waiting list? After signing up for mailing list. Thanks.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: bradfa on May 31, 2013, 08:02:54 AM
in4speed98 - I emailed HTA and Andy sent my number.  I signed up for the newsletter March 2013.  My number is 1187.  Andy said the are about 1/5 of the way to my number.  I should get my order email in a few weeks.

Hope this helps.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gryfox23 on May 31, 2013, 12:19:39 PM
Man I'm glad I jumped on this band wagon last year. I was starting to get impatient! This thing is great. I love the quality. Thanks Andy for takin the time to get it right before you started shipping.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 31, 2013, 12:22:33 PM
Thanks for all the kind words and pics guys! You have all been so wonderful and we can't stress enough how grateful we are for customers as awesome as you guys. If there is anything at all we can do, please, please let us know! We would be happy to oblige.

Cheers,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jeffco55 on May 31, 2013, 01:34:12 PM
Ok, assembly review.

The HTA stock seems to be just as involved as the RJF stock as far as assembly goes. The only downside to the HTA assembly method is the bolts aren't a uniform length so you actually have to follow the instructions to see which bolt goes where[BD]

The shells went together smoother than the RJF, I remember lots of tweaking to the RJF stock to get the halves to line up correctly so there were no gaps in the seams, the HTA stock took zero tweaking and assembled the first time without gaps.

The charging handle on the HTA stock is much nicer than the RJF, the RJF handle mars the plastic on their stock and the HTA handle doesn't even have that ability. Trigger pull on the HTA stock is less mushy than the RJF, and the HTA seems a little crisper to me.

From shouldering and dry firing alone with the HTA stock I can say the extra length is good for me even with my short arms, I get a good cheek weld and the sight picture lines up exactly. My buddy has a FN P90 and I remember craning my neck on that to get a good cheek weld and sight picture.

I'll update more when I get a chance to fire it, thats still going to be a couple of weeks.

EDIT: If I was pressed to find something wrong, I would say some of the flash after assembly was sharp, I fixed this with a razor and 30 seconds.

(http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/jeffco55/3BF29694-E4BD-4F5C-B76B-2BE0B304AE5A-10916-000005E4C997CC5F_zps1f61890e.jpg) (http://s609.photobucket.com/user/jeffco55/media/3BF29694-E4BD-4F5C-B76B-2BE0B304AE5A-10916-000005E4C997CC5F_zps1f61890e.jpg.html)

(http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/jeffco55/67B2FF8C-C795-4008-AFB9-1984526B73B2-10916-000005E5248B8E99_zps9210120e.jpg) (http://s609.photobucket.com/user/jeffco55/media/67B2FF8C-C795-4008-AFB9-1984526B73B2-10916-000005E5248B8E99_zps9210120e.jpg.html)

(http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/jeffco55/5F81BD1D-E92C-41C0-8854-0FA7587E0E23-10916-000005E529676DF0_zpsb6400281.jpg) (http://s609.photobucket.com/user/jeffco55/media/5F81BD1D-E92C-41C0-8854-0FA7587E0E23-10916-000005E529676DF0_zpsb6400281.jpg.html)

(http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/jeffco55/76F61459-F142-4906-99B8-DB630860FED5-10916-000005E536EE48D9_zps672437e2.jpg) (http://s609.photobucket.com/user/jeffco55/media/76F61459-F142-4906-99B8-DB630860FED5-10916-000005E536EE48D9_zps672437e2.jpg.html)

(http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/jeffco55/2673E77D-895E-4420-9AB0-6BB57A55FC38-10916-000005E54875B476_zps00c2f525.jpg) (http://s609.photobucket.com/user/jeffco55/media/2673E77D-895E-4420-9AB0-6BB57A55FC38-10916-000005E54875B476_zps00c2f525.jpg.html)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 31, 2013, 01:52:18 PM
Thanks for the kind words Jeff!

We appreciate it! As for the flash, for those of you who are new to plastics, flash is the lip of thin material that builds up from the molding process around the seem of a part as it forces itself between the two mold halves when being manufactured at high pressure. We do our best to cut it all off but we are working quickly to get these out and every once in a while a few sneak by without being trimmed. As Jeff pointed out, a razor or good knife will make quick work of it if you just run it along the edge of the part. Again, sorry to anyone who has to take this step, we try our best to eliminate it for you. Please let me know if you need any help with that. Thanks so much Jeff and everyone else!!

Cheers,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on May 31, 2013, 02:55:48 PM
Wow, after looking at the side by side pics I think I like the looks of the red jacket better. However I don't think looks alone will win out this time as I've read too many opinions that puts hTA as better product, looking forward to being able to order mine in the weeks to come.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 31, 2013, 04:28:17 PM
Hey Guys!

I had a question come in today that we get every so often but have never actually proven. Will the 10/22 takedown work in an HTA 90/22. We don't have one on hand but figured we may as well ask those of you who have yours and might happen to have a takedown around somewhere too. Thanks so much for everything guys!

Cheers,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gregchico on May 31, 2013, 04:38:12 PM
24hrs (actually 23hrs and 55 minutes) from payment to receiving the "shipped" email with tracking information.  Everything went smoothly.

Adam/HTA is off to a kick a$$ start.  Good luck guys!




Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on May 31, 2013, 04:41:23 PM
Hey Gregchico!

Thanks for the kind words! Actually we were late in updating the software and all stock orders received before noon today shipped around 1 pm CST! Thanks so much gang!

Safe shooting,

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ZeroPointAlligator on May 31, 2013, 08:27:46 PM
I had a question come in today that we get every so often but have never actually proven. Will the 10/22 Takedown work in an HTA 90/22?

Andy, if all goes well I should be picking up a Takedown model tomorrow.  I hadn't planned on putting it into the 90/22 since it kind of defeats the purpose of the gun, but when I receive my 90/22 kit I'll attempt a fitting and let you all know how it turns out.  My order is marked as SHIPPED but I never got a shipped email FYI.

-ZPA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: CWood on June 01, 2013, 08:00:09 AM
Andy, Since I signed up late, very late. Like 3 weeks ago. How long to you expect the wait will be till you get towards the end of the list?
Thanks....


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 01, 2013, 01:20:27 PM
Thank you for your order. Your order number is 132, placed 06/01/2013 at 01:18PM
Yippee!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 01, 2013, 01:37:24 PM
Hey Cwood and Greg!


Thanks so much for your order Greg! We really appreciate your business, and as always and for all customers, if there is anything I can do to help, please let me know! Thanks again!

Hello Cwood! Thanks so much for signing up! We hope to make it through the list within a matter of weeks, perhaps a month or two. We are into the 300-400 block of customers now and that was a week of work, but we had lots of reserves. Now our reserves have dwindled, but we are still kicking these out. Please let me know if I can do anything to assist!

Thanks again guys!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ZeroPointAlligator on June 01, 2013, 06:22:17 PM
As usual my application has been delayed by my Uncle Sam, so no word on the fitment of the Takedown as of yet.  When I'm eventually approved I'll post the results in a new topic.  My 90/22 kit arrived today though :-D Darn quick shipping from order to doorstep!

-Mark


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: nitromaxx98 on June 01, 2013, 06:37:25 PM
#141. Was seriously leaning toward the ZK, until I did further review and found this site. I'm stoked!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 01, 2013, 06:55:58 PM
As usual my application has been delayed by my Uncle Sam, so no word on the fitment of the Takedown as of yet.  When I'm eventually approved I'll post the results in a new topic.  My 90/22 kit arrived today though :-D Darn quick shipping from order to doorstep!

-Mark

How long did it take to get to you after you ordered it? Sounds pretty fast though. I figure mine might get here Wednesday? Or so because nothing delivered Sundays.... Who knows it'll be here soon. What's a few days after waiting this long for the release right? Totally excited though. You a vet? Govt loves putting holds in you guys.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 01, 2013, 07:22:00 PM
Not to ask a stupid question but once in the bullpup stock how do you clean it? Do you take it apart again or what? Other ideas or suggestions? Just want to be prepared.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on June 01, 2013, 07:46:20 PM
Greg,

I ordered my stock Wednesday night, it shipped Thursday and I got it on Saturday so I would think that Wednesday would be a reasonable estimate. 

As far as cleaning, I am planning on getting a bore snake to do the barrel and since there is easy access to the chamber it will be pretty easy to clean out.  I'll do that after every range trip and will probably break the entire thing down every couple of thousand rounds (depending on shooting conditions.  If I ever shoot in the rain or extremely humid conditions I may disassemble the stock to deal with any moisture that may build up, but I will do that on a case by case basis.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 01, 2013, 07:49:41 PM
Cool thanks, I just back ordered 2 buckets of bullets. 0-8 weeks eta but better than me waiting in lines and such. Just glad they were allowing back orders on them. That's 2800 rounds to go with me 1600 rds of cci and 525? Of federal.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: crashton on June 01, 2013, 08:40:03 PM
Andy/ HTA,
Will a Razor 80% receiver fit into the HTA 90/22 stock?
Thanks, Crash


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 01, 2013, 09:05:23 PM
Hey Crash!

Thanks so much for the question! If they're the ones I'm thinking of they have an integrated rail in them right? If so, then sadly they will not fit due to the tight tolerances around the receiver inside the kit. Our kit requires a receiver with a factory style smooth top. Sorry for any inconvenience! Please let me know if I can do anything else and thank you so much for your interest in the 90/22!

Cheers,

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: joel4salejunk on June 01, 2013, 11:07:18 PM
Thank you Andy
Ordered mine Wednesday night and it shows up today (Saturday) morning!
I am in no-way familiar working with firearms and installation is piece of cake!  Instruction is very clear and detailed.  Overall installation took me more or less 30 minutes. 

LOVING IT.
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo75/joel4sale/IMG_3103_zpsaa8cff7d.jpg) (http://s363.photobucket.com/user/joel4sale/media/IMG_3103_zpsaa8cff7d.jpg.html)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 01, 2013, 11:11:42 PM
Gorgeous pic with the Tavor! Thanks so much for your purchase Joel! Looks awesome. If I can do anything in the future please let me know! That looks so cool!

Cheers,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: joel4salejunk on June 01, 2013, 11:35:22 PM
Just realized one thing.  Isn't there an ATF role about serial number.  I know you can't touch them.  But anyone knows about covering them up with the stock??


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: joel4salejunk on June 01, 2013, 11:41:59 PM
NVM, Found my answer online.  Not exactly the same but I guess we are okay.  Phew.. ;D
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/general-firearm-discussion/148688-placing-black-tape-over-serial-number-federal-violation-print.html


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: madmat on June 02, 2013, 06:46:40 AM
Hello from across the pond in sunny (for once) England!

Just stumbled across this fantastic looking piece of kit today whilst looking for something unique for my first rimfire.  I've signed up for the newsletter but thought I'd ask here about the possibility of shipping to the UK?

Our major issue with regards to bullpup .22LR's over here is a length issue but I'm happy to see that our minimum length is less than yours at 24" (with a minimum barrel length of 12" which isn't an issue for rifles but becomes a right pain the proverbial when it comes to revolver and pistol shooting!)

Thanks in advance
Mat


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: kilopaparomeo on June 02, 2013, 09:34:01 AM
Starting a new topic


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: BarryinIN on June 02, 2013, 11:53:39 AM
I had not been following the thread closely, so was surprised to get a notice they were ready.  I ordered a green one within minutes.  Order number 152.  Looking forward to it.

Now to hunt down some BX25 mags.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on June 02, 2013, 04:11:30 PM
 ;D   Oh Yeah! Order 157! Can't wait!!!!   ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Morph on June 02, 2013, 04:19:15 PM
Hello from across the pond in sunny (for once) England!

Just stumbled across this fantastic looking piece of kit today whilst looking for something unique for my first rimfire.  I've signed up for the newsletter but thought I'd ask here about the possibility of shipping to the UK?

Thanks in advance
Mat

Mat, Im in the UK also & have asked this question twice on this thread.........the silence was deafening....
The HTA website does say that if you sign up & your country is listed they will ship to you however I'm yet to hear Andy confirm anything other than US only shipping.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: The Angry Jew on June 02, 2013, 10:03:09 PM
Hey Andy...Order # 109 Here...cant wait to get this puppy put together and out to the range....2 questions for you and the group at large.
1  Lets talk slings.  I would love to pick up one of the rigs that were used in Stargate SG1 for the P90, but it appears these were custom made by the prop guys for the show.  Anyone know where something comparable can be found? 

2.  Any recommendations for a threaded bull barrel?  I was going to order one from Yankee Hill but they are out of stock.  My eventual goal is to mount a can on it, God I Love Living in OREGON where such things are still legal, so any recommendations on a good suppressor would be appreciated as well.

Well I guess that is actually three questions, but you guys still love me, right?  :-)

Congratulations again Andy on bringing the 90/22 to market.  I will send pics and vids as my build progresses.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: boyerbl on June 02, 2013, 10:49:17 PM
The slings can be found on EBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/P90-Sling-SG1-P90-Sling-Stargate-Police-Airsoft-/330433433739?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cef5e108b (http://www.ebay.com/itm/P90-Sling-SG1-P90-Sling-Stargate-Police-Airsoft-/330433433739?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cef5e108b)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gryfox23 on June 02, 2013, 11:32:42 PM
Thank you Andy
Ordered mine Wednesday night and it shows up today (Saturday) morning!
I am in no-way familiar working with firearms and installation is piece of cake!  Instruction is very clear and detailed.  Overall installation took me more or less 30 minutes. 

LOVING IT.
(http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo75/joel4sale/IMG_3103_zpsaa8cff7d.jpg) (http://s363.photobucket.com/user/joel4sale/media/IMG_3103_zpsaa8cff7d.jpg.html)

What is that top pup?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: kipy on June 03, 2013, 06:25:22 AM
We all need to have a discussion about how much money it will take to get HTA working on a Tavor kit now...  :)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: THUNDERGOD on June 03, 2013, 07:32:12 AM
I had not been following the thread closely, so was surprised to get a notice they were ready.  I ordered a green one within minutes.  Order number 152.  Looking forward to it.

Now to hunt down some BX25 mags.

CDNN has BX25's for $29.99 single, $49.99 2 pack. I just ordered 4. Free shipping code fs99 for orders over $99


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: BarryinIN on June 03, 2013, 10:01:54 AM
Got some, thanks.
I had not been following the thread closely, so was surprised to get a notice they were ready.  I ordered a green one within minutes.  Order number 152.  Looking forward to it.

Now to hunt down some BX25 mags.

CDNN has BX25's for $29.99 single, $49.99 2 pack. I just ordered 4. Free shipping code fs99 for orders over $99


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gregchico on June 03, 2013, 04:56:45 PM
All I can say is heck YES it is a nicely done kit.  The trigger (for a bullpup) is very good.  It may be heavy, but it is well balanced.  It is also a lot easier than I expected to use 10 round magazines.  I'm very pleased.

The EoTech 553 I had laying around was just a little too heavy.
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/gregchico/IMG_20130603_143042.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/gregchico/media/IMG_20130603_143042.jpg.html)

I found an older Primary Arms optic and it fit so well I ordered an OD green cover for it.
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj310/gregchico/IMG_20130603_143411.jpg) (http://s275.photobucket.com/user/gregchico/media/IMG_20130603_143411.jpg.html)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ToneDeath on June 03, 2013, 05:22:59 PM
These things are looking good. I can't wait for mine. I did notice a little distortion in the polymer around the rear of the thumb hole on the right hand side. It seems a little less noticeable on the black and tan stocks.  Just an observation, I'm not bashing it in any way.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 03, 2013, 05:51:31 PM
Hey Guys!

Thanks so much for the great posting Greg Chico! So glad you like it and thanks again for your order!

As for our chaps across the pond (I am very sorry for having missed your comment Morph), we cannot ship to you because our own government apparently is not only hellbent on protecting each of us from ourselves but also protecting all of you too. There are a number of laws we would have to comply with to get the rights to ship overseas. ITAR has some goofy rules on shipping "defense" items. Then there's the Export Administration Regulations (EAR), another wing of the government that funds and justifies its own existence by issuing fees and tariffs on exports. All things considered, it would cost many thousands of dollars just to begin exporting these overseas, meaning we would have to sell 20-30 units just to be able to afford to the fees. It would be nice to make a little money too  ;) Not to mention the time spent trying to get our government to agree to it. We need to do some more research and figure out if there is enough demand to warrant the expense. We don't want you guys to get the impression that we don't want to sell these to you, that's not it at all. We just need to weigh the cost and benefits of it. We really appreciate your guy's interest and it means so much to know that 5000 miles away, we have made this kind of impression. Please keep directing friends to our site. If we get enough emails from international clients, we'll make it happen... Thanks so much gents! So sorry for any inconvenience!

As for the rest of you yanks, thank you all so much for all your positive comments, the kind words of support and encouragement, and all the other little things that make this so worthwhile. You guys are the best and we hope you know if there is ever anything we can do, we are here to help!

Hey ToneDeath- just saw this come in. Thanks for the comment and good observation. Yeah, on the black and green especially, what's called a "witness line" shows up in the rear of the thumb hole. The reason this happens is because polymer as it is injected gets dammed up as it tries to squeeze through a thin area and then explodes out into a wider rib. Basically you're seeing turbulence in the plastic that hardened up. It's pretty common in injection molded parts but we do want to try to limit it as best we can. The reason it shows up there is because we had to have a relatively thin wall section in that area to allow magazines to fit nicely. Once out of that very small, thin section, it shoots into a wider rib. Unfortunately, we are asking this polymer to do an awful lot, and that's as good as we could get it for now. We are certainly trying to find ways to further mitigate those lines. Also, if it is something that would be a major turn off for some people, go with the tan. The lighter color hides it a lot better. We will continue working on ways to relieve it, but for the meantime, it is one of the casualties of trying to make everything fit into a shape that pushes the limits of 10/22 stocks.

Safe shooting,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: FED671 on June 03, 2013, 07:19:02 PM
OD goodness!!! 


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: punkgarn on June 03, 2013, 07:21:09 PM
What aftermarket trigger do you guys like? Haven't ever messed with 10/22's or their triggers so looking for some suggestions.
On a side note- I work 12 hour shifts fri-sun so don't have a lot of time to go through email. Just found my HTA email from Friday in my spam box, so make sure you check it!  Looking forward to seeing my kit!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gryfox23 on June 03, 2013, 09:03:09 PM
OD goodness!!! 

Name your pup kits


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ToneDeath on June 03, 2013, 09:09:48 PM
Sorry to hear about you dilemma madmat. Hope it all works out for you guys. Thanks for the education in polymer mold injection Andy, I learn something new every day.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: The Angry Jew on June 03, 2013, 10:27:14 PM
Ordered on Saturday, arrived today.  Now that is what I call customer service.  Fit and finish appear excellent.  Now all I have to do is get one more paycheck and i can pick up the 10 22 to go in it.  I would do it this weekend, but its the wife's birthday and there are limits to even her infinite patience.

Last question for you Andy.

Firing with the "suppressor" in place?  Yes or no?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: FED671 on June 04, 2013, 04:10:07 AM
OD goodness!!! 

Name your pup kits

Keltec RFB, Keltec KSG, HTA 90/22


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: THUNDERGOD on June 04, 2013, 11:48:01 AM
Question: What is the length of pull for the HTA 90/22?

Thanks


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 04, 2013, 02:43:36 PM
Hey Thundergod!

Thanks for the great question! LOP is about 15.5" give or take. About the length of an AR15 fully extended for reference. Hope that helps! Thanks Thundergod!

Cheers,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on June 05, 2013, 10:15:34 AM
I see people referring to order numbers....how does this process work. I signed up for the newsletter 2 days ago..I have to assume everything is OK with it since I've received no type of notification or actual newsletter to verify it..... when I'm on the HTA website my only option is to put the stock in my "Wish List" which I have done...I was hopping to actually buy it and have it put in "MY Basket" and then notified when it was ready. Guess my question is .. do you get notified on a personal basis OR is a mass mailer sent out that says there's a bunch for sale to the public and its on a first come first serve basis? I have talked to Andy...I'm sure he'll respond to this...and he did tell me to sign up for the newsletter to get on the list...I'm just curious as to how you get notified...do I check hourly as to not miss my window of opportunity or will I get a personal e-mail with something like a 24 hr window to order ? ?
Thanks
Ralph


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 05, 2013, 10:25:06 AM
Hey Ralph!

Thanks for the questions and the faith in our response time! Sorry for any confusion. We know it's not the best system but it seems it works better than taking people's money early ;)

Ok here's the deal- we are sending out mass emails in the order they were signed up for, anywhere from 25-100 at a time. We send these out once we have enough on hand to satisfy at least those customers, should they all choose to order. When you get the email, it is is "first come, first serve" but we have enough to serve everyone so don't worry about it- you'll definitely get to order. If you just signed up a few days ago, it may take a few weeks for us to get to you since we have a lot of names to get through. About the only time you'll ever receive an email from our newsletter is if a new product comes out or we have some pressing announcement to cover. There is no window of order time either. The very first people to get the email can still buy one now (if they haven't yet) just like the people who got it today can. Hope that helps Ralph! Sorry again for any confusion regarding the system. We are working to better streamline it for sure! Thanks again!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 05, 2013, 10:52:45 AM
Got mine in the mail a little while ago. Will look it over but ....lunch first. I'm also debating on getting the trigger job kit by Kidd. From all forums I've seen it's the best out there. But do I want to wait? We shall see.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on June 05, 2013, 11:09:06 AM
Thanks for explaining that Andy ... Guess patience isn't one of my virtues according to the wife   ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 05, 2013, 02:39:15 PM
I'm pretty ignorant with the workings if guns which is why I'm always trying to learn. From what I've seen by their very nature bullpup designs dint normally have smooth triggers. In general from what I've read is that the Kidd trigger job kit is best out there. It drops trigger pull down to 1.75 pound pull. Woud that be true on this bullpup kit ?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 05, 2013, 03:03:52 PM
Hey Gregory!

Thanks so much for the great question! And I'm sure you know more than you think!

As for the trigger, we don't like making the claim that "if you have a match trigger in the back you'll have a match grade trigger in the front". Frankly, it's impossible to get the exact same thing. We tried to make it as close as possible, using a hardened steel rod, but you always lose a little to friction, inertia, spring pressure etc. The biggest addition to the weight of pull is the return spring on the trigger. It adds a pound or so, but it is necessary for a clean reset. Thus, a 1.75 lb trigger will become a 2.5-3 lb trigger pretty quick. We really like the VQ hammers. They reduce weight by 50% and cost $35. It's a cheap way to get a really decent bullpup trigger. Just our 2 cents. The Kidd's are nice too though but a little more pricey for something you don't get to enjoy to the full degree. Glad it arrived by the way- thanks so much for your order!!

Also, as a helpful hint for anyone installing your kit, we included a rubber cap for the end of the trigger rod. We included this to help prevent trigger marring both during assembly and use. However, some people here at HTA swear you can get a crisper pull by removing it and going trigger to bar directly. I tend to agree a little, it does seem to help. It makes the pull a little longer but I also think it aids in reset and in lowering pull pressure. Let me know your thoughts guys, for those of you who like to tinker, and see if you think that makes a difference. Bear in mind that it will probably cause a little surface scuffing on the trigger if you have an old metal trigger like I do. It's not bad, just takes the finish down a little. Hopefully that helps!

Thanks so much guys- and glad I could assist Ralph! You're on your own with the wife though  :D

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 05, 2013, 03:13:22 PM
I see vq hammer on Brownells for 35.99 but on midway for like 40 but also on midway for 45 it includes auto bolt release? Would you recommend that?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 05, 2013, 03:20:51 PM
Hey Gregory!

I'd go Brownells for a little cheaper and skip the auto release for now. We have one coming that will do the same thing but much better. It's extended and auto release, so it will be much more ergonomic. Let me know what you end up doing! Thanks so much Greg!

Cheers,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: BarryinIN on June 05, 2013, 07:58:10 PM
Mine came today.  I spent nearly an hour assembling it, but most of that was taking pictures of the process.  I figure around 20 minutes or less was actually working time.
The only hitch I had was holding back the charging handle to get the barreled action in place.  A third hand would have been helpful here. I just used an Allen wrench as a stop to hold the charging bar back, then installed the action and slipped the wrench out from underneath.

As everyone says, it is a solid stock.  No creaking, squeaking, or crunching as its handled and gripped.  Very nice.
It adds some weight over the plain wood stock it had, but shifts the balance point rearward so it's easier for me to hold (I have a screwed up back).  I'd put the balance point about the center of the thumbhole.

I was concerned about magazine and bolt stop access, but it appears to be OK.

If I could change one thing, it would be to add a storage compartment in front of the buttplate somehow. I see that area and it begs me to fill it with junk I'll never use.

Very nice overall.  I like it.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 05, 2013, 08:00:59 PM
Ordered the vq hammer so I'm just going to wait till I grout before assembling mine. No sense doing it now and redoing it in a week or so. Still excited about getting it done though.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: WildBrewer on June 05, 2013, 09:01:55 PM
So I ordered mine today and i was number 223. I believe i signed up around Nov. 2012 for those of you still waiting. I ended up getting a tan one. My question to you guys is about painting the stock if i want something different down the road. I saw someone talk about this and i was hoping to get more information.  This is a really nice kit and i don't want to screw it up by using cheap or the wrong paint. What kind of paint should i use so it doesn't flake off or should i just get the idea out of my head all together. I would really like to do a digi camo on it at some point. Any help is greatly appreciated.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 05, 2013, 10:26:43 PM
Hey Greg and Wildbrewer!

Thanks so much for your orders! We appreciate it! Glad to hear you went with the VQ Greg, I think you'll be very happy for the money you'll have in it.

Wildbrewer- welcome to the forum and thanks again for your order! Your business is very much appreciated and if we can do anything else, please let us know!

As for the paint question, Nylon polymer is an inherently chemical resistant substance. That makes it great for guns since oils and solvents can't really touch it. However, that same property causes many paints to be less than practical. There are a few good names in the industry that you could find reps for that would know exactly what can be done and what can't be, how to prepare a Nylon surface, and what to do after to ensure long term adhesion. Cerakote, Alumahide (for the do-it-yourselfer), and Dura-Coat are all well known and fairly reputable brands for adhering to difficult surfaces. Cerakote and Dura-Coat can often be done by local gunsmiths who know all about the aforementioned considerations. Alumahide is a Brownells brand of paint very similar to Cera and Dura, but it comes in a spray can. Definitely read some reviews and watch some videos before you try it for yourself. Maybe even try it on a practice piece first. There are lots of things to consider even after the paint is applied, like dry times and temps. There is also the dip option, which is what we have done to a few of our kits. This process adheres a "sheet" of camo or pattern of your choice to the body of the gun. If handled rough, it can flake off and scratch like paint, so it isn't necessarily better, it just allows you to do patterns that would be exceptionally difficult with a paint process. See the attached image for an idea of what dipping can do.

Basically, it's all going to boil down to how much you want to spend vs how involved you want to be vs how much you want your finish to do. Dipping, Dura-coat and Cerakote will be more expensive to do because you'll probably want a gunsmith/dipper to do it. Dura and Cera will probably outperform a dip in terms of durability, but are also limited in the intricacy of patterns for the price. Then, there is a $12 can of Alumahide, which will be cheaper and be on par with Cera and Dura for durability, but it will be a lot of work and a lot of time getting yourself practiced and educated on how to use the product. Again, it's really your call. I'm by no means a finish expert and I'm sure I have forgotten some things but this will at least get you thinking anyway. Also, if anyone else has some thoughts or can weigh in on one of the processes listed or on something I missed entirely, please shout it out! Hope that helps Wildbrewer! Thanks again for your order!

Cheers,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: WildBrewer on June 05, 2013, 10:48:54 PM
Andy thanks for all the great info. I kinda knew it would be a in depth process but i'm a DIY guy and like to play around. I think you gave me a great start and I will now have some reading to keep me busy until i get the kit. Thanks for including the pictures, they look great. I actually saw them on facebook after placing my order and asking my question. Great minds think alike i guess. Thanks for the help and i look forward to seeing what you guys come out with next.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 05, 2013, 10:52:11 PM
I'd want like blues and white and purple or orange so I think I'm out of luck lol. With my black one I might just go with some zombie decals or maybe skull and crossbones. Maybe find stencil and use white paint fr the skull. I'm lazy so I might just do nothing.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 05, 2013, 10:56:18 PM
Thanks so much guys! And if you actually make that a reality Greg, I better see some dang pictures! Thanks again gang!

Safe shooting,

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 05, 2013, 10:59:41 PM
Would be awesome if I could get it to match my new Nike shoes. I've got the Charles Barkley foam posited purple/orange (Phoenix suns) released like 3 weeks ago. Also some of the purple has like a lizard print design paying homage to when Barkley fought Godzilla in commercial. Anyway that would be wickedM


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 05, 2013, 11:01:58 PM
Like I said, we want pictures!!  :o

haha thanks Greg!

Andy


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ToneDeath on June 05, 2013, 11:51:49 PM
There may even be some automotive refinish type coatings that will work on these stocks. Andy these stocks are made from a blend of fiberglass & nylon, is that correct? If this stock or a piece of it were put in a tub of water would it float or sink to the bottom? Some dippers I know will apply a two component acrylic urethane clear over the dipped pattern for durability. These clears are available in different gloss levels.  Gloss, Matte, Flat, etc. Just some food for thought.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 06, 2013, 05:26:28 PM
Hey Tonedeath!

Yes sir, these are fiberglass reinforced nylon (milspec). It would sink in water- it is relatively dense material. Our dipper does do the automotive clearcoat technique to aid in wear resistance, yes! You seem to know your stuff Tone! Let me know if you have any other questions!

Cheers,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: nitromaxx98 on June 07, 2013, 10:07:44 PM
Ordered my stock last Saturday, Got it on Wednesday, Installed it the same day. I took an hour to install it because I'm very being an engineer. One word to describe the install would be flawless! I have not fired it yet. I will tomorrow, but everything cycles perfect and the feel is rock solid. Hats off to HTA!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 07, 2013, 11:13:12 PM
Thanks so much for your purchase and kind words Nitro! Glad to hear everything went well for you! If there is ever anything I can do, please say the word and we will do it!

All the best,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 07, 2013, 11:18:19 PM
Oh man. I just saw hot pink zk22. Andy why don't we have hot pink? Sigh


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 07, 2013, 11:20:41 PM
Hey Greg!

It's funny you mention that- we actually have those in the works, along with solid white with black accents. Those should be available in a few weeks. We just did a little color matching the other day with some pink camo we liked! Keep checking in! Thanks so much,

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jassonvoorhees on June 09, 2013, 10:22:37 AM
Very close to the real deal PS90


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 09, 2013, 08:49:29 PM
I think it was asked but I can't find it now.... Is it safe to shoot with the dummy suppresser?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: brian.z on June 09, 2013, 08:56:22 PM
Yes, you can shoot it with the faux suppressor.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 09, 2013, 08:58:46 PM
Just ordered this hope its cool.....
NCStar Zombie Stryke 4x32 Rifle Scope - Red/Green Illm Biohazard Reticle 4X32 STH432G


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on June 09, 2013, 10:16:09 PM
Andy, will real P90 mags or airsoft P90 mags fit in the HTA 90/22? Function wide of course, but some were asking about aesthetics.

Worst case, I will try when mine arrives.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: WildBrewer on June 11, 2013, 08:43:09 PM
Gregory2277

Let me know how that sight works out for you. I was looking at some of their other sights but i was thinking that they would sit to far forward. I think that i will probably be going with Truglo Red-Dot Tru-Brite Open-Dot Multi Blk Box, Black.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 11, 2013, 08:52:41 PM
I actually have that tru glo sight already, think I might put it on my uts-15. Course I paid 85 plus shipping, looks cheaper now, bummer for me.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: FED671 on June 12, 2013, 05:08:51 PM
Anyone know if the Blackhawk PS90 sling adaptor fits the kit?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: javaduke on June 12, 2013, 09:05:55 PM
del. Never mind, had a little issue with the stock and got email from Andy just a few min later! Everything is sorted out. Thanks again Andy and the team for the top quality product and great customer service!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 12, 2013, 09:53:14 PM
Hey Javaduke!

I am very sorry about any inconvenience but it sounds like you may have a defective unit. We will do WHATEVER it takes to correct this in a timely fashion and find a way to compensate you for any frustration or lost time. Please send us a PM or email and we will try to determine exactly what the issue is. Please let me know what I can do and it will be done. So sorry again if there is an issue. Our team has been pretty good but there is a lot to check and a lot of orders being worked on each day. Some things invariably get missed from time to time. We are very sorry for any issue. Thanks so much in advance for your patience and understanding,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 14, 2013, 04:26:28 PM
Hey guys!

Hope all is well out there in bullpup land! Thank you all so much for your kind words and support as we get rolling here. Thanks so much for being patient with us, we are working as fast as we can! Sorry also for being out of contact for a few days. We have been slammed and I am doing my best to keep up. There have been a lot of new threads popping up and I am doing my very best to answer the most pressing questions as soon as I can. Thanks for being patient!! Thanks also for the buzz and great comments, pictures and kind remarks. It means so much and we hope we can continue growing so we can deliver more fun products!

A couple of you might have had minor issues (missing part etc) and we appreciate the handful of you who have had those issues for being so patient with us as we go from being in a state of waiting to full blown production. Thanks so much for your understanding!

We will try to post a video tonight showing our new extended mag/bolt release so watch for that when it comes out! It is a really fun product!!

Thanks so much for all the great comments and pics guys! You are all so awesome and we are honored as a company to have such a loyal and kind customer base. Please let us know if we can do ANYTHING AT ALL for you!!

Thanks again,

Andy and the gang


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on June 14, 2013, 04:40:57 PM
Awesome. Something I would like to see made are extended charging handles. The stock ones are a little short. I would like something that sticks out more.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 14, 2013, 04:42:45 PM
Hey Solscud!

Those are on the way too! Aluminum knurled knobs that stick out about 1/2" to 3/4". The design looks awesome! We will be posting pics of protos soon! Thanks so much Solscud!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on June 14, 2013, 07:20:11 PM
Andy..Are any of these upgrades going to be incorporated into the guns or are they add ons to be purchased separately ? the reason I ask is that I'm still waiting for the newsletter to actually order one and was just curious if maybe one of the bright sides to not ordering yet may mean the later built stocks might have something the other don't.....

Also note for the guys looking for mags...dunns sporting supply has the BX-25 for 29.95..but with free shipping at ANY amount ordered..I ordered 2 for 59.90 out the door..shipping was free.Most  places have a minimum order of 99.00 to get free shipping,not this place.....


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on June 14, 2013, 08:29:43 PM
Andy, I am sure it is too late since the mold is already made but how come there isnt a window to show the serial number of the Ruger receiver?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 14, 2013, 08:50:42 PM
Hey Solscud!

Thanks for the great question!

There are a couple reasons, and we  know it is an inconvenience for our NFA runners, but we felt the net good outweighed the net bad. The aesthetics is definitely one reason, but the main reason was the fact that the charging handle should be self reciprocating so it didn't rattle or flop around with the action open. To make the CH have its own spring tension, we needed room for a spring. Unfortunately, the best location was right at the location of the serial number.

For those of you who want to run an NFA gun, or just like the idea of seeing a serial number, a great location would be on the small hump made for the top front portion of the receiver. This hole will be covered by the magazine box when it is installed. You could have a gun smith cut a hole and mark your receiver in this area so you can run NFA weapons. This means you may technically not be allowed to install the mag box (thereby covering the number) but you would want to check your local laws.

Hope that helps Solscud! Thanks so much for everything!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 14, 2013, 09:01:24 PM
Hey Postal!

Almost missed you sorry! The accessories won't be included for some time, just because we have so many orders to fill and that wouldn't exactly be fair to our first signups, simply because they didn't have that option. If you're willing to wait a few years, we may consider it then haha. Hope that helps Postal! Thanks so much for the tips on BX's for everyone! We all appreciate it,

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: FChuckP3 on June 14, 2013, 10:22:32 PM
Quick Question,
From what I understand, After signing up for the newsletter, I will not be able to order until I receive an email from HTA?
I only ask because I can put one in my shopping cart and check out on the website.
Will I not be able to complete check out?
Thanks.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on June 15, 2013, 06:12:47 AM
There are a couple reasons, and we  know it is an inconvenience for our NFA runners, but we felt the net good outweighed the net bad. The aesthetics is definitely one reason, but the main reason was the fact that the charging handle should be self reciprocating so it didn't rattle or flop around with the action open. To make the CH have its own spring tension, we needed room for a spring. Unfortunately, the best location was right at the location of the serial number.

For those of you who want to run an NFA gun, or just like the idea of seeing a serial number, a great location would be on the small hump made for the top front portion of the receiver. This hole will be covered by the magazine box when it is installed. You could have a gun smith cut a hole and mark your receiver in this area so you can run NFA weapons. This means you may technically not be allowed to install the mag box (thereby covering the number) but you would want to check your local laws.

Hope that helps Solscud! Thanks so much for everything!

Andy and the team at HTA



Ahh, thanks. That makes sense. I didnt even think about the charging handle spring. I figured there was a method to the madness haha. Thanks again for the open dialogue and responses Andy. It is truly amazing your attitude and openness. I hope that never changes.


Oh another possible accessory idea. A shroud extension. Perhaps an adapter could be made to go between the shroud and the stock so as to cover up longer barrels like mine. Of course I can buy a shorter barrel. But just thinking out loud.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 15, 2013, 09:36:13 AM
Hey Fchuck!

Thanks for the great question! Sorry for any confusion- it seems you stumbled onto our hidden page. There are ways of finding it but unfortunately we can't change that if we want to gateway to work for clients who already received the email. To keep a long story short, please don't use that link until you receive the email from us with information on how to purchase. We would really appreciate it! Thanks so much Fchuck!

Hey Solscud! We'll keep that suppressor suggestion in mind thanks so much! Thanks also for your kind words regarding our degree of openness! We don't really have anything to hide (just ask our "secure link"  :D ) so we try to level with you guys on the how's and why's as much as possible. Thanks again for the kind remarks!


On an unrelated note- High Tower Armory is very proud to post this link to a video of our new line of products!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlgZgMukF80

If someone can make it hot that would be awesome! I'm not so good a this whole forum thing, even after 200+ posts. Thanks so much guys for everything! This has been such a fun ride and we couldn't have asked for a better group of core followers! All the best,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ToneDeath on June 15, 2013, 10:27:53 AM
Cool new products coming for the 90/22. Andy you were so excited you forgot to touch on the Hydro Dipping. Do you have any pricing & pattern options, and how will  this extend the delivery times etc?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 15, 2013, 11:19:21 AM
Hey ToneDeath!

Haha good catch! We actually did have a section filmed for hydrodip but we still don't have some of the details hammered out quite yet and instead of giving out info that could change, we opted to just let you know that the dip was going to be an option later. Sorry for any confusion on that!

Much of the information we cut from the video was pricing related. We do have a rough ballpark on pricing but the problem is we are trying to keep it as affordable for you guys as possible so we won't really know exact pricing until our dippers come back with some firm numbers. From the sounds of it, we are hoping we can keep the cost down to around $299.99 for a dipped unit in almost any pattern imaginable. We will be posting various options but if yo have any special requests, before you place an order please let us know if the dip you want isn't yet available. We will probably stock most of the major camos like woodland, digi, Marpat, ATACs, multicam, etc. Again, if what you are looking for is not an option on our site, let us know and we'll get you custom pricing, which hopefully won't be much more to do. Thanks again for everything Tone! We appreciate all the questions and excitement!

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on June 15, 2013, 11:44:26 AM
Just watched the video and found the extended mag release to be a must have purchase. I had thought of buying an extended release and replacing the stock release but I like the fact that yours doesn't require any disassembly and appears to just slip over the stock release. And after watching you do a few quick releases it seems pretty firmly attached. I think this will be a big hit with guys not wanting to take their guns apart....

P.S.
So now that your on You Tube and I'm sure will be seen all over the world...do we call you Hollywood Andy ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mission critical on June 15, 2013, 12:04:15 PM
Hey Fchuck!

Thanks for the great question! Sorry for any confusion- it seems you stumbled onto our hidden page. There are ways of finding it but unfortunately we can't change that if we want to gateway to work for clients who already received the email. To keep a long story short, please don't use that link until you receive the email from us with information on how to purchase. We would really appreciate it! Thanks so much Fchuck!

Hey Solscud! We'll keep that suppressor suggestion in mind thanks so much! Thanks also for your kind words regarding our degree of openness! We don't really have anything to hide (just ask our "secure link"  :D ) so we try to level with you guys on the how's and why's as much as possible. Thanks again for the kind remarks!


On an unrelated note- High Tower Armory is very proud to post this link to a video of our new line of products!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlgZgMukF80

If someone can make it hot that would be awesome! I'm not so good a this whole forum thing, even after 200+ posts. Thanks so much guys for everything! This has been such a fun ride and we couldn't have asked for a better group of core followers! All the best,

Andy and the team at HTA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlgZgMukF80 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlgZgMukF80)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on June 15, 2013, 12:31:54 PM
Just watched the video and found the extended mag release to be a must have purchase. I had thought of buying an extended release and replacing the stock release but I like the fact that yours doesn't require any disassembly and appears to just slip over the stock release. And after watching you do a few quick releases it seems pretty firmly attached. I think this will be a big hit with guys not wanting to take their guns apart....

P.S.
So now that your on You Tube and I'm sure will be seen all over the world...do we call you Hollywood Andy ;D


I think you misunderstood. The mag release is extended. Then they have another detachable extension to make it go past the mag well.  The shorter one is their extnded mag release.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 15, 2013, 01:13:19 PM
Hey Solscud and Posttal!

Solscud is correct and sorry for any confusion Posttal! The video didn't really lay it out very clearly, but we will eventually do a tutorial on installation. Our mag release does replace the factory mag release, but install is really very simple. The bolt release is a little trickier but also remarkably simple considering how it fits in. The mag release as Scud pointed out is designed with 2 settings. The first is the basic release and it is slightly shorter so it doesn't hang down quite so far. Then, by simply sliding the extension in from the end of the main mag release, you can easily drop the end of the mag release down to a more tactical level to give you extremely fast mag changes.

It would have been nice to go with something that was a little easier to assemble, but this system will be much stronger and simpler over the long term. When you take your 90/22 apart for cleaning, you won't have to worry about losing any pieces or anything. It's all self contained and not just an add on to the factory mag release. That was our rationale anyway. Also, we can accommodate all 10/22's and not just the old style or new style of factory release.

Hope that helps Posttal! Again sorry for any confusion and if/when you order, if you need any help with the install, we'd be happy yo walk you through it!

Cheers,

Andy and the team at HTA

Also, MissionCritical is the man!!! Thanks so much MC


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on June 15, 2013, 01:30:58 PM
Ahh........OK..I saw you take it off and put it on so I thought it was just meant to slide over the existing release to make it longer. Replacing it all together answers the question in my head as to just how it stayed on so securely.
And lets face it the 10/22 is a pretty simple gun to take down so replacing the whole thing isn't going to be rocket science.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on June 15, 2013, 03:20:29 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlgZgMukF80 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlgZgMukF80)

Another great video, Andy.  You do a great job of not only showing your product, but speaking intelligently and smoothly.  Great job!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ZeroPointAlligator on June 15, 2013, 10:30:22 PM
Andy,

Will there be the option for us early adopters to send our shells back to you for hydro dipping?  Also, I'm not super familiar with dipping, how tough is the coating once it's on there?  Thanks.

-ZPA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 15, 2013, 10:40:42 PM
What extended mag releases are out right now that work with the stock? I've got one but my friend who put it together for me and the new hammer but it wouldn't work with the kit because it only fit one direction and it was close to the trigger and wasn't hanging like it should to be down outside he stock?
Ill wait for hta mag release and xtension if its soon otherwise I'd at least like to entertain other options that might work?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: dntam on June 15, 2013, 10:46:24 PM
I would think any extended mag release or hammer should work. Are you sure your friend installed them correctly ? The longest mag releases I think are the Promag/Archangel and the Christys.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 15, 2013, 11:30:15 PM
Well hope he was doing it correctly he's ex army ranger and has done some gun smithing work also, not sure right now if his dad was actual gunsmith or him but either way he deals with plenty of them. Ill check those out though.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: dntam on June 15, 2013, 11:51:55 PM
Was he able to get all the parts together and have a successful function check with the rifle out of the HTA shell ? I can see how an odd shaped trigger  might have problems but the hammer should not have any effect in using the HTA stock. The mag release also extends downward into an open magwell space so it should work. It should not function but did he put the mag release in backwards ? What parts are you using ?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 16, 2013, 12:05:00 AM
The only issue we had was my extended mag release it was just one I had picked up off eBay.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 16, 2013, 01:42:19 PM
Hey Gregory and Dntam!

I hope you get it figured out Greg- I guess we'd have to see it to know for sure. I can promise our mag release works every time, so maybe that would be the best option  ;D Haha it's worth a shot I guess! Please let me know what we can do to help!

ZPA- we are definitely open to taking older customer's halves back and having them dipped. Send me an email when you see them go up and we will try to figure out if we can do it. The problem is, there would be a lot of dissassembley to dip an assembled kit. The trigger has to come out, along with the charging handle op rod and spring. The rail would need masking if you wanted it black. The wheel safety and spring would have to come out too. Plus all the nuts. We want you to get exactly what you want ZPA, so if it means a little extra work, we're willing to do it. We just need to figure out how we want to handle return dips. Again, if you decide you want it down the road, shoot me an email when you see them go live on the site.

As for the process and finish, it is pretty durable but like all coatings, it can scratch/chip/etc. Depends a lot on how you handle it. We've had a couple dipped models for a few months now and they both look pretty solid. A few small chips in the high wear areas like the mag well, but the main body looks brand new. They actually run an automotive clear coat finish over the patterns to help give them improved durability. Hope that helps ZPA!

Thanks for all the kind words about the new products gentlemen! The video doesn't really do the parts justice but trust us when we say these things make reloads WAY faster. Thanks again!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ToneDeath on June 16, 2013, 10:36:58 PM
Those automotive clear coats are a two component catalyzed product, very tough. They also have UV protection designed into them. If the polymers are prepared and the adhesion promoters are used you should see many years with a trouble free finish.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jassonvoorhees on June 17, 2013, 10:42:08 AM
More info on here at this link: http://www.weapon-owners.com/newforum/index.php?topic=26.msg10541#new (http://www.weapon-owners.com/newforum/index.php?topic=26.msg10541#new)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NativeNinja747 on June 17, 2013, 12:19:17 PM
Just got mine put together last night, apparently my barrel is too long for the fake supressor and I can't quite get the last 2 stock screws to reach their hex nuts, and I've tried many different ways. Probably just go to lowe's and buy 2 that are just slightly longer and call it good. I was wondering, what kind of scope is everybody putting on thiers?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 17, 2013, 12:31:58 PM
Ninja, this is what I have on mine at the moment.
NCStar Zombie Stryke 4x32 Rifle Scope - Red/Green Illm Biohazard Reticle 4X32 STH432G


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on June 17, 2013, 08:36:28 PM
Just got mine put together last night, apparently my barrel is too long for the fake supressor and I can't quite get the last 2 stock screws to reach their hex nuts, and I've tried many different ways. Probably just go to lowe's and buy 2 that are just slightly longer and call it good. I was wondering, what kind of scope is everybody putting on thiers?



Which two holes are you referring to. If you look at the stock right side, you will see that certain holes lay on different height planes than others. That corresponds to what screw you use, logically. The only one that may be confusing is the two screws for the side rails.

Start with the lowest height screw holes and use the shortest the screws. Then move to the next highest and use the next shortest screws left.  You will see a pattern.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ZeroPointAlligator on June 17, 2013, 11:00:17 PM
ZPA- we are definitely open to taking older customer's halves back and having them dipped. Send me an email when you see them go up and we will try to figure out if we can do it. The problem is, there would be a lot of dissassembley to dip an assembled kit. The trigger has to come out, along with the charging handle op rod and spring. The rail would need masking if you wanted it black. The wheel safety and spring would have to come out too. Plus all the nuts. We want you to get exactly what you want ZPA, so if it means a little extra work, we're willing to do it. We just need to figure out how we want to handle return dips. Again, if you decide you want it down the road, shoot me an email when you see them go live on the site.

Thanks for the quick response and the great answer Andy, awesome info as always.  Would the "extra work" of removing pieces be doable by us the end users or are the pieces you talked about difficult to remove/factory servicable only?  I haven't taken a good look at the 90/22 inerds, my 90/22 is still boxed up and waiting for the install since my NCIC is still delayed on my 10/22 - go figure  ::)

-ZPA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NativeNinja747 on June 18, 2013, 09:22:35 AM
I ended up buying a 77 cent bolt that was just slightly longer for the hole by the safety and then the other one fit once I got that in. Andy sent me an e-mail offereing to fix this problem, so I must say I am very impressed with HTA's customer service. It was a simple fix that for all I know could have been my fault for not doing something right anyways? Now that it's together, I love this gun! I ended up buying a Sight Mark Ultra Dual Shot Pro Spec NV QD for it. Which is a reflex sight that also has a laser attached. Can't wait to get this thing out and shootin! Thank you Andy and HTA for a great American made product!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: NativeNinja747 on June 18, 2013, 09:24:12 AM
Any plans on making developing slings for these things?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on June 18, 2013, 01:49:54 PM
Any plans on making developing slings for these things?

I checked with Urban ERT and they make this.

http://www.urbanertslings.com/1.html


I wanted something more similar to their single point system.

http://www.urbanertslings.com/fnpsurhyslco.html


The problem, they told me, is that the original P90 sling design would interfere with the Ruger crossbolt safety.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 18, 2013, 02:51:59 PM
What's a weapons catch adapter exactly? Seems expensive for a sling to me?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on June 21, 2013, 09:31:54 AM
What's a weapons catch adapter exactly? Seems expensive for a sling to me?


Sorry, I dont know what you are referring to.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: gregory2277 on June 21, 2013, 10:55:58 AM
Sol, it's shown on that website link you posted, it's an option to go with the sling.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on June 21, 2013, 04:54:39 PM
Ahh, I searched on ther website and they explain it for the RFB.

Quote
The weapons catch adapter attaches to either your belt or the PALS webbing of the sling on your offhand side so that when the KELTEC RFB sling is configured as a single point, you can secure the front of the weapon to your offhand side instead of just letting the RFB hang in front of you for hands free activities or shooting with your sidearm.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: TDunn on June 21, 2013, 09:49:30 PM
I just got the prototype sling today.  I'll post up a picture tomorrow.  It is very well done.

Any plans on making developing slings for these things?

I checked with Urban ERT and they make this.

http://www.urbanertslings.com/1.html


I wanted something more similar to their single point system.

http://www.urbanertslings.com/fnpsurhyslco.html


The problem, they told me, is that the original P90 sling design would interfere with the Ruger crossbolt safety.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Dev on June 24, 2013, 02:12:01 PM
That's a really great looking setup Dev! Thanks so much for jumping on the forum and saying such nice things! We really appreciate it and glad you like it! As a small startup having customers like yourself, and all the others here on BPF, is invaluable. You guys have all been so good to us and we can't thank you enough for your warm words of encouragement and support as we try to grow our brand into a company that offers a little something for everyone. If there is anything I or anyone here at HTA can do, please let us know! Thanks again.

Safe shooting,

Andy and the team

Hey Andy I did not want to clog up the official picture thread with my response to you so I thought I would do it here.

 I only join forums for products that I am genuinely interested in. I have spoke to you over the phone twice last year and I have to admit I was a little disappointed that it was taking forever for you guys to come out with the 90/22.  There was so much hype sounding the 90/22 that it sounded too good to be true.  I was finally elated when my number came up and after receiving the unit  it was everything you said it was going to be and I cannot get over the fact that the kit is built like a tank. Your customer service and business model is outstanding and I wish you guys all the success. I usually try not to be a fan boy of anything but I cannot help but be one.

One of my friends who was very skeptical about your product advised me against it,  after having him shoot it and look everything over  he didn't say much except that he thought the trigger was terrible (stock Ruger trigger which has been sent out for a trigger job).  At lunch he confessed to me that he wanted to hate it but couldn't get over how good it was.    



 



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 24, 2013, 05:26:06 PM
Hey Dev!

I don't know what to say other than thank you! It's comments like these that make us excited about what we do.  There will always be someone you can't please (in our case your buddy), no matter what you make. We understand that, and that's fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we don't pretend to have a product that is for everyone. The only thing we worry about is whether or not you or anyone who buys  a product from HTA is happy. Do you get a smile on your face when people crowd around your rifle at the range? Do you make more trigger time because you have a kit that is more fun to shoot than the rifle was on it's own? Have you saved money training with our system over training with centerfire ammo? (ok bad question these days) Have you gotten someone who wasn't into shooting before more involved like girlfriends, wives, kids, or friends? We make products for people who answer yes to any or all of these. Not everyone will fall into that category, but again, we understand that. If anyone ever discovers that is the case with us or our product, we would happily refund them their money rather than read bad reviews about our product or service later. We hope you guys see by now that we are willing to work to make you guys happy before, during, or after a purchase. Thanks again for everything Dev! Who knows, maybe one day we'll make a convert out of your buddy yet! If and when that happens, we'll welcome him with open arms   :) Many thanks,

Andy and the team at HTA

PS TDunn- we're all stoked to see that sling! Please post some pics when you have some! If everything works out maybe ERT and HTA can partner up and get some of those made in quantity. Either way, please let us know if it works out well! Thanks so much!

PS Native Ninja- Thanks for the nice things said about our service- we are glad you got it figured out! As for the slings, we'll talk to ERT or other manufacturers to get something worked out. Thanks for asking!




Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Dev on June 24, 2013, 06:15:47 PM
Andy I think you misunderstood what I wrote about my friend. He wanted to hate it because of his preconceived prejudice and was looking very hard to point out something wrong with it when he had a chance to shoot it for the first time. It was suppose to be a I told you so moment.

 The bottom line is he couldn't and he was impressed. Like I said he swallowed his pride and confessed that it was a great kit.
  My friend owns top quality firearms and is very picky. For my friend to admit this and change his hardline ways  is validation enough at least for me that I got more then I paid for but more then anything shooting the 90/22 is pure joy.  



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: TDunn on June 24, 2013, 09:27:34 PM
Urban ERT Sling modification works perfectly.  Now you have a solution for both single point and dual point slings in one kit.  The attachments and sling are very well made and keep the buckles far above the safeties.  I wasn't sure the rear attachment would be stable enough for single point without the thumbhole strap - but I was wrong.  It is very stable.

http://www.urbanertslings.com/1.html (http://www.urbanertslings.com/1.html)

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r82/dvlray6/firearms/Sling4_zps079c5a75.jpg)

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r82/dvlray6/firearms/Sling1_zps424e0075.jpg)

(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r82/dvlray6/firearms/Sling2_zps1eb7e121.jpg)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 25, 2013, 12:15:45 AM
Awesome job TDunn! That looks super cool and I'm glad you found a sling solution.

We actually contacted Urban ERT and hope to be selling these on our site real soon. Thanks so much!

Hey Dev!

Haha I know what you were saying- sorry for a confusing response! Now that I read it I realize I was making a general customer service/mission statement while still responding to your post. It was intended more for everyone who read it that we are concerned with customer satisfaction over everything else, even if it results in a return or a reference to a competitor's item. Your buddy's skepticism seemed to be a good segue for that, but it was admittedly poorly executed by the customer service guy from HTA ;D We gathered that you liked it and your buddy was impressed with it, and we are very thankful for you sharing that with us! We are all happy you got a chance to show your friend we make serious stuff for the serious shooter, and ultimately, that we make products you can be proud to uncase at the range. Thanks again for everything Dev!! We really appreciate your business and your extremely kind words about our kit!! Sorry for a somewhat muddled response haha! If we can do anything at all please let us know!


Cheers,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Morph on June 25, 2013, 08:29:18 AM
Well after initially being disheartened that I had been on the mailing/waiting list since December 2012 only to be told HTA would not ship the stock to the UK I'm now the proud owner of a HTA 90/22  ;D

A speedy shipment by HTA to a Buddy in New Orleans, then repackaged (as an airsoft stock) & forwarded on to me in the UK took only 12 days in total (my buddy took 3 days to repackage the stock).

Whilst waiting I got the dremil out on my 10/22 & did the auto bolt release modification then lightened the trigger pull to 3.5 Lbs

Assembled this morning & all looks/functions great, cant wait to head to the range on Friday & waste some ammo trying out with some optic choices.

Cheers Andy It's a great bit of kit & I'm sure you will get some interest from across the pond once some of the guys see it in the flesh.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on June 26, 2013, 05:55:22 PM
Well after initially being disheartened that I had been on the mailing/waiting list since December 2012 only to be told HTA would not ship the stock to the UK I'm now the proud owner of a HTA 90/22  ;D

A speedy shipment by HTA to a Buddy in New Orleans, then repackaged (as an airsoft stock) & forwarded on to me in the UK took only 12 days in total (my buddy took 3 days to repackage the stock).

Whilst waiting I got the dremil out on my 10/22 & did the auto bolt release modification then lightened the trigger pull to 3.5 Lbs

Assembled this morning & all looks/functions great, cant wait to head to the range on Friday & waste some ammo trying out with some optic choices.

Cheers Andy It's a great bit of kit & I'm sure you will get some interest from across the pond once some of the guys see it in the flesh.


Cool Im glad you got it. I didnt think UK citizens could have anything outside of a shotgun? Clearly I was wrong.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Jacobbones on June 27, 2013, 04:10:24 PM
Anyone use try the zk-22 and the 90/22 ?? 

Wondering which is is better


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Kdub224u on June 28, 2013, 07:10:59 AM
Chicken or the egg.       id go with the chicken.  bc rjf eggs just arnt hatching


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 28, 2013, 09:37:15 AM
Hey Jacob!

Thanks for taking the time to inquire about our product! And thanks for the input Kdub!

I guess we could analyze certain aspects of both to decide which unit is right for you. It seems people are happy, generally, with both products. So what features in a bullpup are most important to you? There are advantages and disadvantages to both and either way we just want you to get the product that best serves your needs. We would much rather have your respect than your money, if we can't have both  ;) We'll be honest and let you know right now, if you signed up in the last few days, it will be another 2-4 weeks before we have a kit ready. We just have a lot of names to get through. We completly understand if this is enough to make you choose another company. Please feel free to ask any questions you may have about our product or service, and if I can do anything to help please let me know! Thanks so much,

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: zdocglock on June 28, 2013, 07:19:33 PM
Hey all!
I just got off the phone with Andy a few minutes ago! Wow, I called and HE picked up the phone at about 7:30 PM (EDT)! I still can't believe it. He even recognized me. Go figure! What a great guy, he answers the phone, he answers emails personally, and he keeps up with the forums. What a guy. I ordered my stock immediately and Andy will get it in the mail tomorrow! I can't wait! Even my wife is excited! I'll try to post some pics and maybe, a big maybe try my hand at a video. Now I'll finally have a "P90" I can afford to shoot! The cool-factor is just icing on the cake. Thanks HTA, and thanks Andy. I...can't...wait!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on June 28, 2013, 07:34:53 PM
Hey Doc!!

Thanks so much for the shout out!! I really appreciate the kind words and everyone here appreciates your business! Please let me know if I can do anything else at all! Everyone here and I are all about getting you, the customer, happy. Thanks for being such a great customer Doc- it was a pleasure talking with you! Thanks again,

Andy and the gang at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: hyrulejedi86 on June 28, 2013, 08:06:20 PM
I've had mine now for a few weeks and was finally able to get a red dot on it and sight it in last weekend. I will say that it is really fun to shoot! Truly a great gun, very close to the P90 and I can't wait until the extended handle is released as well as the case deflector. My wife (left handed) would like to shoot this as well! I think I'm going to get the volquartsen hammer though to improve the trigger. Took some adjustment to get used to it after my Timney trigger in my M&P 15-22 though.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on June 29, 2013, 06:32:06 PM
Took the HTA 90/22 along to the range. I was there sighting in my new Nikon M-308 scope for my SCAR 17. I brought the 90/22 to show my friend. He liked it a lot. Offhand, he was hitting steel at 200 yds!!!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on July 01, 2013, 06:40:22 PM
Thanks for the kind words gentleman! We really appreciate it and are so happy you like your kits! If we can do anything else (besides hurry up the production of the extended controls kits) please let us know! Thanks again for everything! All the best,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on July 02, 2013, 12:35:41 AM
HeyAndy, out of curiosity, why was the "vertical grip" for the support hand not radiused along the back side facing the trigger? It has a rounded square corner to it that is a little bit uncomfortable when I wrap my left thumb around it.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on July 02, 2013, 09:13:26 AM
Hey Scud! Thanks for the great question!

We did that for a couple reasons- one was to differentiate our grip but the other was to create a subtle ergonomic cue to keep your other fingers out of the trigger area. It was a safety thing mostly. Lawyers will be lawyers  ::)

Thanks again Scud!

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on July 03, 2013, 09:24:02 AM
Hey Scud! Thanks for the great question!

We did that for a couple reasons- one was to differentiate our grip but the other was to create a subtle ergonomic cue to keep your other fingers out of the trigger area. It was a safety thing mostly. Lawyers will be lawyers  ::)

Thanks again Scud!

Andy and the team

Thanks!!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on July 03, 2013, 09:47:52 AM
No Problem Scud! Thank you!

Update on extended controls kit: Tooling is well underway and we hope to have something before the end of July. The 4th being a Thursday kind of kills the whole second half of this week, but we hope everyone springs back well rested on Monday. As soon as we have some first shots out of the tools, we'll get some pictures up. The extended charging handles are making progress too. They are almost completed, and just need to be hardcoat anodized and packaged.

Update on barrels: Barrels are being prototyped and a limited run will be produced to test the waters of the free market. Again, these will be Melonited and then probably manganese phosphated as well to give it a duller dark grey look like AR15 barrels but have the same rock hard treatment underneath.

Side note: HTA apparel is now on the site if you guys are looking to rep us at the range! Thanks so much for everything gang! We appreciate it!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Sunjester on July 03, 2013, 12:33:08 PM
Awesome job TDunn! That looks super cool and I'm glad you found a sling solution.

We actually contacted Urban ERT and hope to be selling these on our site real soon. Thanks so much!

Hey Dev!

Haha I know what you were saying- sorry for a confusing response! Now that I read it I realize I was making a general customer service/mission statement while still responding to your post. It was intended more for everyone who read it that we are concerned with customer satisfaction over everything else, even if it results in a return or a reference to a competitor's item. Your buddy's skepticism seemed to be a good segue for that, but it was admittedly poorly executed by the customer service guy from HTA ;D We gathered that you liked it and your buddy was impressed with it, and we are very thankful for you sharing that with us! We are all happy you got a chance to show your friend we make serious stuff for the serious shooter, and ultimately, that we make products you can be proud to uncase at the range. Thanks again for everything Dev!! We really appreciate your business and your extremely kind words about our kit!! Sorry for a somewhat muddled response haha! If we can do anything at all please let us know!


Cheers,

Andy and the team at HTA

just got this sling works great and well built


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: dntam on July 03, 2013, 12:46:26 PM
How about making a sling swivel or QD mount  to replace the screw and nut in front on the fake magazine.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on July 03, 2013, 12:55:52 PM
Hey dntam!

Great suggestion! We are already working on some concepts for that rectangular depression as it would lend itself well to stuff like that. Sling mounts are one idea, along with extra pic rails too. We are also looking at putting extra pic rails just below the charging handle too that would be captured by the 2 screws in that area. Let me know your thoughts and thanks again!

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ShadyPup on July 03, 2013, 06:07:18 PM
I was wondering if a Magnum Research receiver will work in the stock ? Sorry if its been asked and answered
 


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on July 03, 2013, 07:27:09 PM
Hey Shady!

Thanks for the great question! Unfortunately, many aftermarket receivers will not work because the rail is often integral to them, which cannot be the case. The receiver, due to spatial limitations, needs to be a flush top, sorry. Again I apologize for any inconvenience. Please let me know if I can do anything else and happy 4th of July!!

Safe shooting,

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: The Angry Jew on July 03, 2013, 07:39:39 PM
Grrr...I love ya Andy, you know that.  Wish I had heard about the barrels earlier, just ordered an 18 inch threaded bull barrel from E Arthur Brown...Oh well, I guess I will drown my sorrows in HTA swag.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ShadyPup on July 03, 2013, 08:21:18 PM
not at all I just have the opportunity to get one that the stock was destroyed on for cheep and thought I would throw it in one of your stocks :)

 but the rail is integral to the receiver so  it will be destined for another build :)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: dntam on July 03, 2013, 11:36:07 PM
Hey dntam!

Great suggestion! We are already working on some concepts for that rectangular depression as it would lend itself well to stuff like that. Sling mounts are one idea, along with extra pic rails too. We are also looking at putting extra pic rails just below the charging handle too that would be captured by the 2 screws in that area. Let me know your thoughts and thanks again!

Andy and the team

I just happened to stop at the local Sportmans Warehouse and found a Magul type 3 QD socket. Its not perfect but it works. The supplied screw is sl. too short. A 1.25 inch would be better. Also it comes with a round flat head and not a  capped fastener.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f233/dntama/IMG_0645_zps28d5bcc7.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/dntama/media/IMG_0645_zps28d5bcc7.jpg.html)

Here is the other side.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f233/dntama/IMG_0646_zps4f68a658.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/dntama/media/IMG_0646_zps4f68a658.jpg.html)



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Solscud007 on July 05, 2013, 08:30:58 AM
Nice!!!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: confessor19 on July 10, 2013, 03:40:58 PM
Well, I've got my barrel and optics ordered, and I'll be getting a 10/22 this weekend.  Now I'm just waiting for my name to come up on the newsletter list.  Can't wait to try this thing out.

Whistle Pig 18" threaded, fluted, OD green barrel
Vortex Sparc red dot


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: confessor19 on July 23, 2013, 10:52:46 AM
The barrel has arrived:

(http://beckerpc.net/images/P90-22.jpg)

/waits impatiently for chance to order OD green stock


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Skitz on July 23, 2013, 03:21:58 PM
With your barrel, is there a matching thread protector? It's hard to see the tip in your picture.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: confessor19 on July 23, 2013, 03:58:48 PM
Yep, thread protector is on the barrel in the pic.  It was hard to get a good, detailed picture without blowing out the color.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on July 24, 2013, 12:04:30 PM
Good looking setup confessor! Can't wait to see the whole package put together!! Congrats on an awesome barrel- let us know if we can do anything to help!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on July 25, 2013, 10:48:23 AM
Nice...You've got your barrel waiting on a stock..and I have a stock waiting on my barrel to be returned...either way the wait is a killer.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: confessor19 on July 25, 2013, 12:28:48 PM
Nice...You've got your barrel waiting on a stock..and I have a stock waiting on my barrel to be returned...either way the wait is a killer.


Not much longer, my number came up and I placed my order for an OD green kit last night.  ;D

Although now I have to go Ruger 10/22 shopping this weekend.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on July 26, 2013, 08:12:16 AM
Just got an e-mail from my machisist..my barrels are going in the mail today. One for my 10/22 and one for my Beretta NEOS. The NEOS took a bit longer due to its design and cause the delay.Most machinists passed on the baretta or wanted way too much money. Both will also have nice thread protectors not shown in the pictures.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Newhouse on July 27, 2013, 06:42:08 AM
The barrel has arrived:

(http://beckerpc.net/images/P90-22.jpg)

/waits impatiently for chance to order OD green stock
Nice looking barrel.
I'm still waiting for a newsletter and a number. 
 I have several LGS carrying the 10/22 right now.
I was only considering plain bull barrel but now I may order the same barrel you have.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Skitz on July 27, 2013, 06:03:38 PM
I've got my kit built, but the charging handle feels kinda stiff to me. I was wondering if I could lighten the spring some to not have so much resistance before engaging the Ruger bolt? Also, what would be some ideas for charging handle extensions? I'd call my fingers a little stubby and would rather have a better grip.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on July 30, 2013, 05:05:52 PM
Thought I'd post a few pictures in here since this seems to be the picture gallery of mods.I'm trying to figure out what to do with the barrel. I have tried a few things..I took a muzzle break I bought for a hand gun and drilled it out to fit OVER the barrel so it would add no length,I kinda like the look....then there's a pic of it with a warlock ll suppressor...then a pic of it with a spikes tactical FAKE suppressor which is what I'm leaning towards..the the HTA fake can..and the HTA can with the warlock...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on July 30, 2013, 05:13:10 PM
I really like the look of that muzzle brake!  Adds some beef to the barrel, masks the taper, and just plain looks good!  Nice work!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on July 30, 2013, 07:05:49 PM
the Muzzle break was originally bought for my ruger 22/45 lite...but on a handgun its just too much.It's meant to screw onto the barrel and it adds about 2-1/2 inches. I took and drilled the end of it to accommodate the 10/22 barrel and put it on backwards so that it actually covers the end of the barrel instead of adding to it . It took a while to do...I went thru all my drill bits up to 1/2 inch..then a step drill that I had to ruin by cutting the tip off it and also grinding the last 2 steps off so as I drilled it from the front towards the rear where the threads were I didn't damage the threads.I'm either going to keep it with that set up..or pick up another fake aluminum can like the spikes...and use it...the stock 10/22 barrel just looks to naked with nothing on it.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on July 30, 2013, 07:28:58 PM
Just got lucky...didn't want to say anything in case someone here was on e-bay..but I just won the bid on 2 over the barrel fake cans. Aluminum naturally...got them both for 20 bucks including shipping.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: admcamino on July 30, 2013, 10:20:55 PM
post some pics after you you put them on. (also, how heavy are they?)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on July 31, 2013, 11:08:45 PM
Hey Gang! Thanks for all the great discussion and images! Your guys' kits look awesome!

As for Skitz's question- if the charging handle is stiff, it may be bent slightly (if it's friction you're experiencing). You can test if it is friction by locking the 10/22 bolt open and pulling back on the charging handle. If it isn't friction, you can certainly try cutting down the main spring a little to get the feel you want. If it is friction, feel free to call or email and we'll try to figure it out together! Sorry for any perceived stiffness! Please let me know how we can help.

The extended grips are really cool and work great. I attached a picture. What do you guys think? Do you want the logo in black or silver? Personally, I love the look of the silvered logo. Just a little bad news on the grips. Because we initially weren't planning on a little plate with logo to give the charging handle a nice finished look, we did have to raise our predicted price by $2. They will be available for $16.99 for 1 and $29.99 for 2. We think the extra 2 bucks is well worth the little plate to give the front a nice clean look. Let us know what look you guys like best, whether it's the silver or black logo. Thanks so much everyone! We really appreciate everything!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on July 31, 2013, 11:49:10 PM
Andy, I like both logos!  From a style standpoint, I prefer the silver one.  However, from a tactical standpoint, I'd go for the black-out logo.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on August 01, 2013, 08:28:50 AM
I like the black out one...and then if someone wanted to highlight it they could just rub some color into it like guys do to their glocks and other etched guns.
But what I really want is the knob...I've been trying to make one myself...I'm just about ready to modify an A/C schrader valve removal tool ..(pictured below)  I'd much rather buy yours instead of destroying a tool that I've had for years and cant purchase anymore...When and how can I purchase just the knob ... please send me a link


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on August 01, 2013, 08:55:56 AM
Hey Plinker and Posttal!

I think we will offer both colors on the site- it's not a big deal to get that done. Then you'll have options! They should be going up on the site soon. We were waiting to get all the accessories together, but if you really want it now, I can post it sooner. Just don't destroy a usable tool haha. Thanks so much guys!

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on August 01, 2013, 09:17:06 AM
haha..well I could use the knob ASAP...as far as the etched part, I assume the knob will attach to the stock part just as well ?
Ruger is sending me the parts to repair the safety on the 10/22 half of the gun...it would be the perfect time to do any more mods while its apart . In fact if you have them ready for shipping but are waiting on your webmaster to redo the site you do have our addresses  ;D


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on August 01, 2013, 09:30:07 AM
Hey Posttal!

Ya, the knob will attach with the plate, without the plate or even over our factory grip. I am the webmaster and I have the page ready to go! Trouble is, we don't have all the parts. The ones you're looking at are just the samples. In fact they are the same grip- except once we had pictures of it in the natural, we added some silver colorant haha. They should be done soon though- they are getting anodized right now! Thanks so much for being patient!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on August 01, 2013, 09:41:55 AM
I think I speak for many when I say we will be patently standing by . .  well actually sitting by.
Thanks


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: The Angry Jew on August 01, 2013, 07:34:09 PM
Both look great...If it were available as an option, I think I would go with silver.  Any word on the extended mag release?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: ToneDeath on August 02, 2013, 12:30:25 AM
Andy,

Are we looking at 4 pieces there. Plate, screw, knurled knob, top cap. Or is that threaded stud a part of the knob?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on August 02, 2013, 10:12:45 AM
Hey Guys!

Heading over to get the first articles of the mag release today! I'll let you guys know! Thanks for the update request and roger that on the silver Angry Jew! We'll do our best to offer both. We appreciate the input!

You are seeing 4 pieces in a sense Tone! Good news is, you'll only ever deal with 2 of them. We epoxy in the the threads which are a steel insert. The cap kind of self retains. Once it's in, it's in. Short of destroying it, it will be hard to take it out again. So, although it is made of 4 components, they really will only ever be 2 components to the end user. Hope that helps. Let me know if I can clear anything else up! Thanks so much guys!!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on August 02, 2013, 10:28:38 AM
Can't wait for the extened mag release.  That's the only down side to the stock.  Once I have that, it will be perfection. :)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on August 02, 2013, 06:09:06 PM
Did a few Mods..I bought 2 over the barrel mock suppressors off e-bayfor 20 bucks shipped to me.. and ground it down to the proper length .. then I took the HTA fake suppresser and cut it down to cover the end of the 90/22 and make the transition to the suppresser more streamline. Someone asked in a earlier post about maybe HTA making a cover for that area of the stock for guys not running bull barrel's but also not using the fake plastic suppresser. Cutting the plastic suppresser was my way around this. Then I found a bag of chrome saddlebag dress up parts for the Harley...have no idea where they came from but they're used to run a chrome rail thru on top of the tour pak..I heated it up to change the color..the bright chrome was too much...then I replaced the factory bolt with on a bit longer and larger and mounted the rail holder..then took the loop off a old key fob and made a front bracket for a sling.. I'll have to find a black key fob loop..but you get the idea.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: The Angry Jew on August 02, 2013, 08:48:45 PM
This is almost exactly what I was talking about in the other thread Andy...just a piece that screws on in place of the mock suppressor to make the transition from barrel a little cleaner


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on August 02, 2013, 10:34:38 PM
Hey there Angry Jew,
I had seen your post earlier and had been thinking the same thing. Being an auto mech I was going to cut and paint a piece of exhaust pipe to slide over it.But seeing how the mock suppresser I picked on e-bay up looked a bit smaller than the one provided by HTA I decided to cut it and see if the aluminum suppressor would seat into the plastic one....and in my case it worked pretty good. IF it didn't work I had 3 back up plans.. the piece of exhaust pipe..a prescription pill bottle(I found one that fits perfect I could cut down) . . or since my stock is OD green a piece of green camo duct tape. Maybe those will give you some ideas.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: devlmaycry on August 05, 2013, 09:20:54 PM
Did a few Mods..I bought 2 over the barrel mock suppressors off e-bayfor 20 bucks shipped to me.. and ground it down to the proper length .. then I took the HTA fake suppresser and cut it down to cover the end of the 90/22 and make the transition to the suppresser more streamline. Someone asked in a earlier post about maybe HTA making a cover for that area of the stock for guys not running bull barrel's but also not using the fake plastic suppresser. Cutting the plastic suppresser was my way around this. Then I found a bag of chrome saddlebag dress up parts for the Harley...have no idea where they came from but they're used to run a chrome rail thru on top of the tour pak..I heated it up to change the color..the bright chrome was too much...then I replaced the factory bolt with on a bit longer and larger and mounted the rail holder..then took the loop off a old key fob and made a front bracket for a sling.. I'll have to find a black key fob loop..but you get the idea.

What OTB dummy did you get on ebay? I see a lot of different kinds, and really like the look of your setup and would like to dup it.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on August 05, 2013, 10:39:51 PM
Here's a link to one on e-bay as we speak... Just do a search for Fake Can in Sporting goods.I'm assuming you have a threaded barrel and if so they should be 1/2x28 thread pitch. They make 2 types of fake cans..one screws onto the end of the barrel like a real suppresser...the other slides over the barrel giving the gun the appearance of having a short barrel like a SBR but without the needed SBR tax stamp. If your barrel isn't threaded then your going to have to stick with the plastic one that comes with the stock and mounts to it and not to the barrel...Theres also a chance you may have to cut the back down a bit..I did..because the cans are about 6 inches and  ON MY GUN I needed closer to 5 1/2 to catch the proper amount  of threads.. but that would depend on if your barrel was cut when threaded and its original length

Heres the link http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-2x28-223-5-56-Slip-on-Fake-Shroud-Can-US-SELLER-/160900469144?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25766a5198


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: devlmaycry on August 06, 2013, 10:39:15 AM
Thanks Posttal!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on August 06, 2013, 11:16:24 AM
Thanks for all the great pics and postings guys! This is good information and it's nice to have a visual representation of what you guys want to see! I will start looking into this for sure. Let me know if I can do anything else at all!

Andy and the gang


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on August 09, 2013, 10:16:56 AM
I got my new optic's today...Holographic red AND green dot Reflex sight . . WITH a red dot laser on the side of it with a remote mounted on/off. Hopefully will get up to the range over the weekend if not later today.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Dogster on August 09, 2013, 04:23:58 PM
NICE! I ordered a cover with the laser on it for my EOTech 552. .920 barrel and 2.75# trigger arrived and installed. All I need now is the HTA kit & I'm ready to lock & load. Any word on deliveries?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on August 13, 2013, 05:14:18 PM
Hey Dogster and Posttal!

Great pics Posttal! Thanks so much! As I just posted a little bit ago on another thread:

Thanks for checking in with us! We appreciate it! We also really appreciate your patience. Unfortunately we encountered a few production issues and are trying to get back on track. Everything is shaping up pretty well now. If we get the parts we need, it shouldn't be much longer than 3-4 weeks for us to get to even the most recent sign-ups. Please let me know if we can do anything at all during the interim. Thanks again gang!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Dao on August 27, 2013, 02:32:30 PM
Here's a link to one on e-bay as we speak... Just do a search for Fake Can in Sporting goods.I'm assuming you have a threaded barrel and if so they should be 1/2x28 thread pitch. They make 2 types of fake cans..one screws onto the end of the barrel like a real suppresser...the other slides over the barrel giving the gun the appearance of having a short barrel like a SBR but without the needed SBR tax stamp. If your barrel isn't threaded then your going to have to stick with the plastic one that comes with the stock and mounts to it and not to the barrel...Theres also a chance you may have to cut the back down a bit..I did..because the cans are about 6 inches and  ON MY GUN I needed closer to 5 1/2 to catch the proper amount  of threads.. but that would depend on if your barrel was cut when threaded and its original length

Heres the link http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-2x28-223-5-56-Slip-on-Fake-Shroud-Can-US-SELLER-/160900469144?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25766a5198


Thank you for the link

I have a question. Will this work for me if my barrel is 20in? on the ebay link it doesn't say how long this fake can is. Im trying to make a new mock can to carry my barrel because the one that came with the kit doesn't fit and is too short for my 20in barrel.

Thank you
Johnny Dao


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on August 27, 2013, 10:24:20 PM
Hey Johnny,
all I can tell you is that my barrel is 18.5 and I had to cut about 1/2inch off in order to catch the proper amount of threads and mate with the stock.So the can was in fact larger than 18.5 and close to the 20 inches you need. But keep in mind that if its too short the worse that's going to happen is that it wont mate up to the end of the stock..there will be a gap.and if so you can just put on the supplied plastic mock suppressor that comes with the gun and cut it to fill the gap. I cut mine because I liked the way it transitioned from the end of the stock to the can rather than having the can mate up against the nub of the stock..but if you did it to fill any gap it would look the same.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: FLPlinker on September 28, 2013, 12:09:25 PM
i got a chance to go to the range Friday and put 300 rnds through the new rifle. i was very happy with it. i had a couple of feed/ejection problems in the first 100rnds. but i am attributing that to break in of the new Ruger. after the couple of failures, the gun ran flawlessly. the extended controls worked great! the guys at the gun shop all really liked the design. one of them even had the other guys stock, and said that he wish he had known about the HTA one before buying his. he liked this one much better.
i am very happy with the stock, the wait was well worth it! the only thing i think i am going to change is going to be the mock suppressor. the rest of the stock is so great that the plastic suppressor doesn't look so good. think i might look into making this an SBR and getting a real suppressor for it.

Thanks Andy and team, i am very pleased with the stock and extended controls. i am looking forward to seeing what you all come up with next.

FLPlinker


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on September 28, 2013, 02:19:30 PM
do you have an extended mag release and if so which one and where'd you get it. I already did the auto release mod but would like to get an extended mag release .. I see a lot around on line but don't know which one to get since the HTA one isn't available yet and from what I see is only being sold with the auto release which I don't need. So what do you have ?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: FLPlinker on September 28, 2013, 06:39:27 PM
I have the HTA  extended/auto bolt release and  HTA extended mag release. I highly recommend them since they are designed specifically for this stock. they both work flawlessly and are  the perfect length.
FLPinker


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: posttal on September 28, 2013, 09:49:48 PM
Hmmm...every time I look to buy them all it says is "COMING SOON"...Oh Andy >:(


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: FLPlinker on September 29, 2013, 07:07:38 AM
I bought the tactical pro pack. I believe those are in stock.  you could email and ask.
 FLPlinker


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Armored Rah on September 30, 2013, 11:17:55 PM
I've got my OD green HTA 90/22 stock and my Tacpack Pro kit installed and I'm speechless. This thing is SO much better than I expected (and I was expecting a lot). The quality and the design are just amazing. Not to mention Andy is the KING of customer service (and a super guy). I put a KIDD trigger in my 10/22  ( the same day as the 90/22 and Tacpack Pro), so I never used the kit with the stock trigger. I can tell you that with the KIDD upgrade and the 90/22 stock installed, the trigger pull is still less than 3 pounds. I have no complaints at all about any of the HTA items I bought and I'm looking forward to any new items they come out with in the future. There's no better bullpup kit for a 10/22 out there. This is it, this is the standard to beat and I don't see anyone doing that at this price, period. Honestly, I could go on and on about this thing, which I'm sure would get old. So, here's what I'll end with. If you hold this kit in your hand, you won't need anyone telling you how great it is, because you'll know as soon as you touch it. :o


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: indetrucks on October 01, 2013, 08:07:48 AM
I've got my OD green HTA 90/22 stock and my Tacpack Pro kit installed and I'm speechless. This thing is SO much better than I expected (and I was expecting a lot). The quality and the design are just amazing. Not to mention Andy is the KING of customer service (and a super guy). I put a KIDD trigger in my 10/22  ( the same day as the 90/22 and Tacpack Pro), so I never used the kit with the stock trigger. I can tell you that with the KIDD upgrade and the 90/22 stock installed, the trigger pull is still less than 3 pounds. I have no complaints at all about any of the HTA items I bought and I'm looking forward to any new items they come out with in the future. There's no better bullpup kit for a 10/22 out there. This is it, this is the standard to beat and I don't see anyone doing that at this price, period. Honestly, I could go on and on about this thing, which I'm sure would get old. So, here's what I'll end with. If you hold this kit in your hand, you won't need anyone telling you how great it is, because you'll know as soon as you touch it. :o

Can I ask how you acquired it and when?
Did you get an email from Andy saying it was available for you?
What number on the wait list were ya?

Thanks bud ..... I'm JONESING for this kit


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on October 01, 2013, 10:15:44 AM
Hey guys!

Thanks so much for the AMAZINGLY kind remarks! We can't even begin to express our gratitude to all the fans of our kit for taking a few minutes out of their day to let us know how we're doing. We will forever be grateful for what you all do for us!

Indetrucks! I know you're charged about a kit and we are moving as fast as we can! Armored got the email from us with the info on how to order in the last round of emails we sent out. We should have another one going out soon!

Here's something you or someone else may be interested in- first person to PM us with "I'll take it" walks away with the link to order. We have a sample stock here that was dipped with an ATACS camo pattern over a tan stock. It turned out beautifully but we decided we'd stick with black as the base in the future simply from the standpoint that the areas that don't get dipped (the butt, the suppressor lug, and some areas around the mag box) end up staying tan and we think the majority of folks would like black. At any rate, we had a sample made with a blemished tan stock and it does look super cool. The blemish was a relatively deep scratch in the stock that sits below the charging handle and is covered by the camo finish but still noticeable in certain lighting. Check out the pictures to see if it's for you. We'll knock 50 bucks off this one for the scratch and if the base color isn't for you. $249.99 for anyone who wants it. Again, just PM us if you're eyeing it! Thanks again everyone for being such stellar customers and supporters as we forge ahead!

All the best my friends!

Andy and the gang at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: indetrucks on October 01, 2013, 11:50:47 AM
PM SENT!!!
Maybe even two!  (I wasn't sure if my first PM went through)

This stock is exactly what I would want. I love the desert tan but wanted desert camo... PERFECT!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: FLPlinker on October 01, 2013, 12:04:50 PM
Good luck indetrucks, if you are the lucky one, i know you are going to love the stock. It is awsome!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on October 01, 2013, 12:30:33 PM
Kit is sold! Thanks so much guys!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: indetrucks on October 01, 2013, 02:10:59 PM
Mine allll mine!!!! Muhahahaha!

I even showed my Girlfriend this stock during my lunch break and she LOVED it.  I had shown her all the stock options a week or so ago and eventhough I liked the desert tan, she wasn't a huge fan. 
She said this one really completes the look of the Desert Tan.  I'm really stoked to get this particular stock.

As far as the small part of but-stock that isn't hydrocoated, thinking I will flat black that small section. Give it a but-stock "pad" look.
Even though the front part won't be visible, will probably flat black that too.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: FLPlinker on October 01, 2013, 02:33:20 PM
Nice grab indetrucks, You are going to love the stock. this became my favorite rifle before i ever even fired a single round out of it. it just felt so well balanced and comfortable.

post up some pics when you get it all finished up.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Dogster on October 01, 2013, 02:39:17 PM
Congratulations Indietrucks! You are going to LOVE this rifle. Can't wait to see your pics!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Rotorman on October 01, 2013, 04:59:56 PM
Hta seems like a company to get behind. I know I'll be purchasing a stock when I get the email. Can't wait!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: IRON MAIDEN on October 02, 2013, 01:26:10 PM
HTA, can you tell me if a shell deflector is in the works? My friend thought he saw a thread saying you guys were working on one. My two sons, 15 & 13, will both be shooting the gun. My oldest is a lefty. They both like the look of the HTA P-90 over the RJ version. But if my lefty son won't be able to shoot it....
I scanned the thread but didn't find the answer.
Thanks for your time.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mission critical on October 08, 2013, 08:06:25 PM
I just wanted to check in to thank Andy and the folks at HTA for their prompt service and delivery.

October 2 - Received an HTA email that provided HTA 90/22 ordering instructions.

October 3 - Received email notification that my order had shipped, via USPS.

October 5 - Received the parcel, via USPS.

Talk about a fast turnaround... fantastic work, HTA!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on October 10, 2013, 10:37:21 AM
Hey guys!!

Sorry for the late response to this! It's been a crazy week at the office haha!

Thanks so much for your question Iron Maiden! I'm pretty sure we've corresponded in email about this already, but in case I am mistaken or there are others with a similar question, HTA is currently working on that deflector we have talked about for so long haha. I know this project, true to HTA form, is taking a long time to complete, but much of that has to do with the complex nature of what the part does, what it costs to design and tool, and what it costs in precious man hours which we are in desperate need of. We are hoping to get something out soon to you all but there are many irons in the fire. Barrels are getting worked on, FS2000 grips are being designed and tooled, other goodies for other rifles are on the way, and much much more. We're just all super busy here, not that anybody is complaining mind you! We owe all this to you guys, our FANTASTIC and AWESOME customers who continue to encourage, support, and of course purchase our products as we make them available! Thanks for all you have done and we hope to have our left handed friends a solution real soon! Thanks for your patience!


And speaking of awesome and fantastic customers... thanks so much for your very kind remarks Critical. It definitely means a lot and we truly appreciate your business! Please let us know if we can do anything at all in the future!

Thanks again everyone for everything! You guys are the best and we are feel so honored and lucky to have you all here with us!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Ruger 1022 on October 13, 2013, 05:52:56 PM
Hay Guys, Just got my HTA 90/22 and was eager to assemble. I am using a brand new 10/22 purchased at Wiley-World for $234. When I opened the HTA box, boy was I impressed. The fit and finish was/is way better than the ZK22 I recently purchased. Assembly went well except for the trigger spring flying out and my 68 year old eyes could not find it. Had to call in the reserves and believe me she sees like a hawk. Wifie ocated the spring quickly and I was back on track. Completed gun looks and feels great. Now a couple dry fires and that *&^%$ trigger pulls like a log truck, so I ask myself what would the boys on the Bullpup Forum do. Trigger group is boxed and order is placed with Brimstone. Will be sending it out Monday morning first thing. Hope the turn around is quick as I can't wait to shoot some pumpkins at the range..


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: indetrucks on October 13, 2013, 06:59:10 PM
Hay Guys, Just got my HTA 90/22 and was eager to assemble. I am using a brand new 10/22 purchased at Wiley-World for $234. When I opened the HTA box, boy was I impressed. The fit and finish was/is way better than the ZK22 I recently purchased. Assembly went well except for the trigger spring flying out and my 68 year old eyes could not find it. Had to call in the reserves and believe me she sees like a hawk. Wifie ocated the spring quickly and I was back on track. Completed gun looks and feels great. Now a couple dry fires and that *&^%$ trigger pulls like a log truck, so I ask myself what would the boys on the Bullpup Forum do. Trigger group is boxed and order is placed with Brimstone. Will be sending it out Monday morning first thing. Hope the turn around is quick as I can't wait to shoot some pumpkins at the range..

Brimstone did mine in about 7 days.  I got the tier 2 and the 2lb job.
It made the HTA Bullpup pull about 4lbs.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Ruger 1022 on October 15, 2013, 04:15:31 PM
Was just over on the HTA site and they have accessories in stock. Ordered the ext. mag and bolt release also the ext. charging handle. Man this Bullpup thing cost money!!!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: confessor19 on October 17, 2013, 07:21:37 AM
Now that's service. Ordered the TacPack Pro at 9am, had a shipping notice in my inbox at 7pm.    :notWorthy


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on October 17, 2013, 01:26:28 PM
Hey gang!

Thanks so much for all the great comments and your continued support and business! As has been posted, we do have our extended controls available for purchase after months of trying to get everything just right! Sorry for the delay on this and thank you all so much for your patience! We sure hope you guys like the final product!

Thanks again for everything guys and please let us know if you have any other comments/concerns/questions! Thanks,

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: TDunn on October 17, 2013, 11:18:03 PM
Hey gang!

Thanks so much for all the great comments and your continued support and business! As has been posted, we do have our extended controls available for purchase after months of trying to get everything just right! Sorry for the delay on this and thank you all so much for your patience! We sure hope you guys like the final product!

Thanks again for everything guys and please let us know if you have any other comments/concerns/questions! Thanks,

Andy and the team

Thanks Andy and again great work.  We still need a solution to mount flashlights or lasers down low on each side near the front grip.  I vote for the wrap around style we discusssed.  Pull that off and you have the perfect Bullpup.

The gauntlet has been thrown.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Armored Rah on October 17, 2013, 11:51:46 PM
I love my HTA 90/22, but I had no idea of the cost involved in getting the actual 10/22 to meet my expectations. I've got almost $$800 total in this gun now and I'm still tracking down a decent lightweight threaded barrel. :o Every time I find a barrel I like, it turns out it's an odd diameter. The most recent flop was a KIDD ultralight, which was perfect in every way, except it was .875  Why didn't Tony make it either .920 or a standard taper? My next choice is a Whistle Pig barrel, but I'm in price negotiations for a used one and it's not looking like I'm gonna be able to get it for the price I'd like.. :(


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Darkmage on October 18, 2013, 10:12:23 AM
Barrels are getting worked on, FS2000 grips are being designed and tooled, other goodies for other rifles are on the way, and much much more.
I find your ideas intriguing and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Oh wait, I did. In fact, I got my email today! I have to wait until I get home to place the order (stupid work firewall). But in the meantime, what is this about FS2000 grips? Do you have a link to another discussion somewhere?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Ruger 1022 on October 24, 2013, 11:20:44 AM
Man I can't believe no post since the 18th. I am waiting on my trigger to get back from Brimstone. Anything happening with you guys?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: FLPlinker on October 24, 2013, 11:53:21 AM
I sent my trigger of to brimstone on wednesday. I cant wait to get it back. I love the HTA, but the stock trigger on the 10/22 is horrible. Looking forward to seeing how much of an improvement the tier 2 makes.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Ruger 1022 on October 24, 2013, 01:05:53 PM
Plinker Don't know where you live but its a Monday to Monday tuck ride for me. Dave said he got it this past Monday and I am in  line. Did you try your Bullpup with the stock trigger? Mine pulled so hard I didn't even try it with live rounds.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on October 24, 2013, 01:26:18 PM
Plinker Don't know where you live but its a Monday to Monday tuck ride for me. Dave said he got it this past Monday and I am in  line. Did you try your Bullpup with the stock trigger? Mine pulled so hard I didn't even try it with live rounds.

Hey Ruger! Sorry to hear it pulls hard! Does your HTA trigger/rod assembly slide nice? That is to say, is it free to travel or is there friction on the rod? If it's the rod, it's possible it got of spec somehow and we'd be happy to replace that for you. Just let us know! Thanks again guys and please let us know what we can do for you!

Andy and the gang at HTA!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Ruger 1022 on October 24, 2013, 01:42:44 PM
No problem with the rod as far as I can tell. The stock 1022 trigger seems to have about 6+pounds. Others here have had such great luck with Brimstone I thought I'd give them a try. I will post up when trigger comes home.  Thanks for your concern, that bodes well for you and HTA.

Ruger 1022


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: FLPlinker on October 24, 2013, 01:44:38 PM
Hey Ruger/Andy, I did try it with the stock trigger. it was an extremly hard trigger. it is a brand new 10/22, so part of that might have been the stock trigger not being broken in. the rod on the 90/22 seems to move farily easily when the 10/22 trigger assembly was removed. so i dont think my issue is with the stock or rod. i have nothing but high praise for the stock and the accessories that i got with it. according to UPS my trigger should get to Brimstone tomorrow, so hopefully it should be on its way back sometime next week. i have a range trip scheduled for 11/9 that i want to have the 90/22 for. i have a couple friends that are dying to try the 90/22. i even ordered a Vortex 3x magnifire for it. this $225 rifle sure is getting expensive  :D but i love it!

thanks again for such a great line of products Andy, you guys are doing a great job!

FLPlinker


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on October 24, 2013, 01:55:24 PM
No problem gents! I just want to make sure no one is ever bashful about anything! If something ain't right, let us know and we'll do whatever we can to meet or exceed your expectations of satisfaction. Thanks so much for all the support and kindness to us guys! We sure appreciate and it and we would love to hear a range report with the new Brimstone trigger work! Thanks again guys!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Ruger 1022 on October 24, 2013, 01:58:51 PM
I agree Plinker the stock and accessories' are top notch. Can't wait to get it back (trigger) as I have some pumpkin zombies that need  tuning up.  


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: confessor19 on October 24, 2013, 03:37:31 PM
I got the TacPack Pro accessories over the weekend and got them installed Sunday evening.  Wow, huge improvement.  The extended mag release is great, and the auto/extended bolt release is perfect.  It was my first time disassembling a 10/22 to that degree, and the included instructions walked me right through it.  I haven't decided if I'm going to use the new charging knobs yet.  The mag coupler works nicely.  I'll probably end up ordering a couple more, as I own 5-6 10rd mags.

I'll be taking it to the range for the first time this weekend, so I'll probably be back with a range report afterwards.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Ruger 1022 on October 29, 2013, 08:28:01 PM
Just got a e-mail from Brimstone and my trigger has a 2.25lb break. Is on its way back to Virginia today. That should make my HTA Bullpup just about perfect. A special thanks to Brimstone for great service.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Darkmage on October 31, 2013, 11:06:00 AM
Yeah, I have to hand it to Andy and the other folks at HTA: They time they spent on the installation instructions was well spent. Everything was spelled out in plain English.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Ruger 1022 on November 06, 2013, 09:23:27 PM
Hay Gang, Got my trigger back from Brimstone last week and all I
can say is WOW. I installed it and it really feel like it should. Have not
been to the range yet but I am sure it's gonna be great.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: FLPlinker on November 07, 2013, 06:36:03 PM
got my trigger back from Brimmstone today as well. this trigger job was exactly what the 90/22 needed. it is now the perfect bullpup! brimmstone got the trigger down to about 2lbs. with the new trigger in the 90/22 the take up and over travel are perfect, and the break is very clean. i couldn't be happier with the work brimmstone did. the shipping was very fast as well. shipped out from Washington state on Tuesday, to sitting on my door step in florida on Thursday! between HTA and brimmstone this is one heck of a combination! to anyone considering either one, DO IT! you wont be disappointed.

FLPlinker


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Newhouse on November 08, 2013, 07:30:52 PM
Just completed the assembly of my HT 90/22 last night.     I check the factory trigger to be at 6-7 lbs.   Once installed in the new HTstock, the trigger pull is over 10lbs.  I disassembled and checkd to see if the rod was binding anywhere but it was not.  I check to see how much  force is needed to pull
the HT trigger and it was around 1.5-2 lbs.  I polished  parts of the HT trigger until they were smooth.  The trigger pull is now 8-9 lbs. 

Question for Andy,
Does the spring on the HT trigger has to be compressed that much?  If the spring was just extended  and not compressed when installed,  trigger pull is at 7 lbs.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Ruger 1022 on November 08, 2013, 07:54:12 PM
Newhouse, Congrats on getting your Bullpup together. Are you saying the pull is 7lbs without the spring?

Ruger


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: indetrucks on November 08, 2013, 08:30:18 PM
1 word

Brimstone


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Newhouse on November 08, 2013, 08:53:58 PM
Newhouse, Congrats on getting your Bullpup together. Are you saying the pull is 7lbs without the spring?

Ruger
It's 7lbs with the spring installed without the preload.  The spring is needed to reset the HT trigger.
Definitely sending the trigger group to get work on. While I am it, I may as well send the trigger from TD.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on November 09, 2013, 04:10:30 PM
Hey Newhouse and company!

Thanks for the great question and sorry for the issue. The first question is, is there any friction causing some of the extra weight. It could be that there is some rubbing going on with that trigger rod. Occasionally we get an out of spec trigger rod, which will rub against the receiver of the rifle and the step in our stock where the track jumps from the deepest point to the a shallower point as it moves down toward the 1022 trigger. If that is the case, you can simply file that step down a little to offer more clearance. We try to eliminate any out of spec rods, but it is possible you may have gotten one, if that is the cause.

If that isn't the case, the preloaded spring is needed sadly, because without it, there won't be enough resistance to allow for the Glock style cam to move out of the way before the trigger cycles rearward. You may be able to take a little off it, but from a safety standpoint, that spring is important. Let me know your thoughts on the matter and if you have any questions! Thanks so much Newhouse and sorry again for any issue that may have been caused by a defective part. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help!


Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on December 11, 2013, 11:18:09 AM
Hello hello everyone in 10/22 bullpup land!!

Hope the holiday season finds you all in good spirits! This year HTA has has a lot to be thankful for and we just wanted to take a moment to say thank you to everyone here on Bullpupforum. You guys are the best group of folks a young company could ever ask for; enthusiastic, kind, patient, generous, excited, and more than that, just plain pleasant to deal with. We really are so grateful for all you have done for all of us. We will forever be in your debt. Everyone here at High Tower Armory is wishing you a season of cheer and merriment filled with as many blessings as you have bestowed upon us. Please keep in touch folks and, as always, let us know if there is anything at all we can do to help!

Oh and a quick little update as well!!

We are getting the barrels underway- finally! Here are some pictures of what we have cooking so far. They start as Green Mountain barrel blanks and we turn them down to what you see here and mill an integral flash suppressor into the end to allow them to achieve the minimum overall length needed to work in our kit while maintaining a 16" bore. Then, we Melonite them for a rock hard and rust impervious surface that cleans up easier than stainless steel. We are considering a few other contours and finishes, like an ultralight pencil barrel, a plain 1/2x28 threaded 18" barrel, or doing a Manganese Phosphate coating over the Melonite for a grey look, but if you guys have any suggestions we'd love to hear them! We also are planning on doing an Aluminum fake suppressor for the threaded version of our barrel. But please let us know! If you were buying a barrel for your 90/22, what would you want to see? Thanks again guys! For everything...


Andy and and the team at High Tower Armory


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on March 04, 2014, 04:37:03 PM
Hey Guys!

The barrels which have long been talked about are finally here and ready for shipment! We offer several different layouts depending how you plan to use your rifle- including bull barrels, integrally flash suppressed barrels, and basic threaded barrels. We also offer these in 2 lengths: 18" and 18.5". We understand that there are other bullpup stocks out there that, unlike the HTA 90/22, require barrels longer than 18". We also understand that it can be difficult to find high quality barrels in non-nominal 18.5" lengths without paying for custom gun work. So we developed our own solution! We welcome all customers from all camps, whether they are HTA fans, RJF fans, Muzzelite fans or all three! We are just passionate about selling quality shooting sports gear and hope we can make something that appeals to everyone. So if there is something you want or need, just say the word and we'll try to make it happen! Thanks so much guys! We really appreciate it!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on March 04, 2014, 04:50:58 PM
Holy smokes, that last one speaks to me, Andy!  I need to head over to your site and check them out!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on March 04, 2014, 04:59:08 PM
Thanks Plinker!! We appreciate your input and thank you too for moderating this rowdy crowd here on BPF!  >:D I've been meaning to thank you for helping out on the forum! Let me know if I can do anything from our end. Thanks for your encouragement! All the best,

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: WVBubba on March 14, 2014, 01:07:52 AM
Andy, like your product but alas I am a lefty, any hope for us? Even if there is not I do like your 18.5 bull barrel for another build, is there a thread protector on the threaded barrels?.....Fingers crossed hoping for some good news.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on March 14, 2014, 04:19:32 PM
Hey WVBubba!

Thanks so much for taking the time to write us! We are hoping to have a deflector done soon. Again, it's just a cost and man-hours question. We have several new products in the works beyond what's on the site and so we are a little bit stretched right now haha. Our FS2000 grip is coming along well and we are almost finished with something brand new for the 10/22 that most of you will find useful. More on that soon!!

Onto the barrels... we are looking to include thread protectors or at least offer them as a cheap add on. They aren't standard now (we don't have any in stock yet but we will soon) but if you order one, just mention that Andy promised you a free thread protector and I'll make something happen. Thanks o much Bubba! We really appreciate it! If I can do anything else please let me know!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: yamadog35 on March 15, 2014, 08:53:38 AM
I can't say enough good things about Andy and the HTA team at this point.  As part of a couple of purchases, I made a couple of special requests and Andy took care of me with no problem and with prompt communication.  I posted some pictures yesterday in the picture thread of my Hydro-dipped kit and I was so pleased with that one that I got another kit in black (just need to find a gun for that one).  For me, the kit went together easily and it all seems solid.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: TDunn on March 15, 2014, 09:42:06 AM
Andy, any chance of a fake metal can to replace the plastic one?  something that threads onto 18" barrels and extends rearwards would be hot.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on March 27, 2014, 01:12:21 PM
Hey TDunn and company!

We have 2 new accessories in the works- machined side sight rails with QD capabilities in the ends to maximize available rail space and reduce overall width when using a sling, as well as aluminum dummy cans that fit over 18" barrels as per TDunn's comment! They go far back enough to even cover our dummy suppressor lug on the front of the stock, giving it a seamless look that is difficult to achieve with other cans. Watch for both real soon!

Thanks so much guys, we appreciate everything!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: WVBubba on March 29, 2014, 11:21:50 PM
I just wanted to thank Andy and the HTA team, I recently got a 18.5 inch bull barrel and the tac pack and sling. Shipping was quick, communication great and between instructions and posted videos, was a very easy install.  Thanks again Andy be looking to hear from you again when you get those thread protectors in....Have a question about the aluminum cans that you are coming out with, since I got the 18.5 barrel will it be able to work with my set up?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on April 09, 2014, 09:57:20 AM
Hey WVBubba!

Sorry for the late reply here! I've been meaning to make it over the forum to check responses but it was a busy week!

Our cans will fit snug to the stock in 18" barrels but they will still work with 18.5" barrels, they'll just be set back .5" from the face of the stock. Please let me know if you have any other questions and I'll keep you posted on our thread protectors. We should have them any day now! Thanks again Bubba!

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on July 01, 2014, 06:09:22 PM
The High Tower Armory RM-25 Magazine is coming... Happy Fourth everyone! :Iwo

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on July 03, 2014, 03:48:40 PM
Woohoo!!  We love bins of parts for new products!

Thanks for keeping us posted, Andy!  Best of luck with getting this new one flowing as smoothly as the 90/22.  You guys do good work.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: mavrick007 on July 04, 2014, 10:41:32 AM
Andy,

Am I assuming correctly that the RM-25 stands for a 25 round rotary magazine; which also means it will be a 25 round mag that will not protrude very far from the HTA stock???



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on July 07, 2014, 08:25:40 AM
Hey Mav and Plink!


Thanks for the energy- we really appreciate it!

RM-25 stands for Rimfire Magazine, 25 rounds. It is on the outside, a basic 25 round magazine with a window for round counting. On the inside however, there a few new twists on some old magazine features. We'll post a few more pictures as we get closer but we think this should be a pretty cool project! Thanks so much for everything gentlemen! Please let us know if we can do anything for you!


Andy and the team at High Tower Armory


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on September 05, 2014, 06:06:38 PM
Hey gang!

Here's a new look at the HTA RM-25 10/22 magazine! This will of course work with our HTA 90/22! Just figured I'd let folks know there was another option out there in case people had magazine questions or if you just wanted to know what we've been doing over here haha. Thanks so much for everything!

Andy and the team at HTA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiaT_HbZfVI&list=UUX0SNtpOxJbLfC1Bf_87cPg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiaT_HbZfVI&list=UUX0SNtpOxJbLfC1Bf_87cPg)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Worn on September 05, 2014, 07:21:35 PM
Hey gang!

Here's a new look at the HTA RM-25 10/22 magazine! This will of course work with our HTA 90/22! Just figured I'd let folks know there was another option out there in case people had magazine questions or if you just wanted to know what we've been doing over here haha. Thanks so much for everything!

Andy and the team at HTA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiaT_HbZfVI&list=UUX0SNtpOxJbLfC1Bf_87cPg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiaT_HbZfVI&list=UUX0SNtpOxJbLfC1Bf_87cPg)
Very nice magazine. Ought to give Ruger's BX-25 a run for the money. Now, when's the RM-50 coming out?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on September 05, 2014, 11:14:14 PM
Holy cow, Andy, that is ridiculous!!  I want one (or ten) BAD!!!

I love how you've designed it so that if you re-configure, you can store the unused parts so that you never have to lose anything.  LOVE it!!

It wasn't quite clear to me as to whether or not the windows are transparent.  They look dark in the video, and it seems like you imply that rapid reload mode is the only one where you can see the rounds.  Did I hear that wrong?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on September 08, 2014, 10:45:05 AM
Hey gents!

Thanks for all the nice remarks about the mag! We're all pretty pumped about it. It really does bring a new level of adaptability to magazines.

The windows are indeed transparent. They are just early samples that were already a little too dark but look really dark in the video. You can actually see the orange follower pin pretty clearly in real life. In the RM-25, it's the follower pin that's the indicator for round count, not the rounds themselves. In that sense it works kind of like the windowed P-Mag. You can't look at the ammo but rather where the orange indicator aligns with the round count numbers on the outside of the mag. You can of course plainly see the follower pin when the windows are removed as well.

Thanks for all the questions and buzz guys! We really appreciate it! If there is anything we can do to help, please let us know!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Worn on September 08, 2014, 10:57:47 AM
Hey gents!

Thanks for all the nice remarks about the mag! We're all pretty pumped about it. It really does bring a new level of adaptability to magazines.
Given the external follower that the user can operate, you need a companion equivalent of the Ultimate Clip Loader to let gravity load the RM-25. Twenty-five rounds loaded in ten seconds? That would be the icing on this very tasty looking cake.


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on February 02, 2015, 11:04:39 AM
Hello bullpup nation!

Just figured I'd post a quick update here for everyone on our deflector! It's finally done! We have them all in stock and ready to ship! The deflector is free for all existing 90/22 owners and it comes standard on all new 90/22 purchases so our kit can be made fully ambidextrous, regardless of the purchase date! Thanks to all the folks who have been patiently waiting on this! We really appreciate it!

As always, if there is anything I or anyone at HTA can do to help, please let me know! We truly do appreciate all you guys have done for our company!

Thanks again,

Andy and the team at HTA

http://www.hightowerarmory.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HTA9022SD


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on February 02, 2015, 03:36:59 PM
Hello bullpup nation!

Just figured I'd post a quick update here for everyone on our deflector! It's finally done! We have them all in stock and ready to ship! The deflector is free for all existing 90/22 owners and it comes standard on all new 90/22 purchases so our kit can be made fully ambidextrous, regardless of the purchase date! Thanks to all the folks who have been patiently waiting on this! We really appreciate it!

As always, if there is anything I or anyone at HTA can do to help, please let me know! We truly do appreciate all you guys have done for our company!

Thanks again,

Andy and the team at HTA

http://www.hightowerarmory.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HTA9022SD


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Plinker on February 02, 2015, 03:38:54 PM
Hello bullpup nation!

Just figured I'd post a quick update here for everyone on our deflector! It's finally done! We have them all in stock and ready to ship! The deflector is free for all existing 90/22 owners and it comes standard on all new 90/22 purchases so our kit can be made fully ambidextrous, regardless of the purchase date! Thanks to all the folks who have been patiently waiting on this! We really appreciate it!

As always, if there is anything I or anyone at HTA can do to help, please let me know! We truly do appreciate all you guys have done for our company!

Thanks again,

Andy and the team at HTA

http://www.hightowerarmory.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HTA9022SD

Wow, Andy!  I can't think of another company out there who has not only made an add-on a standard part of their offering, and certainly not any that offer the add-on free for existing customers!  Kudos to you, sir!  Another excellent example of your focus on the customer!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: yamadog35 on February 02, 2015, 07:23:15 PM
Hello bullpup nation!

Just figured I'd post a quick update here for everyone on our deflector! It's finally done! We have them all in stock and ready to ship! The deflector is free for all existing 90/22 owners and it comes standard on all new 90/22 purchases so our kit can be made fully ambidextrous, regardless of the purchase date! Thanks to all the folks who have been patiently waiting on this! We really appreciate it!

As always, if there is anything I or anyone at HTA can do to help, please let me know! We truly do appreciate all you guys have done for our company!

Thanks again,

Andy and the team at HTA

http://www.hightowerarmory.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HTA9022SD

Out-Freakin-Standing Service!


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on February 04, 2015, 09:28:09 AM
Thanks Plink and Yamadog!That's mighty kind!

We would have liked to have had it for you all from the beginning but when you start up a company on a limited budget, you have to produce the things that you need and not always the things you would like. We figured the least we could do now would be to give back a teeny tiny bit to the folks that helped us get this far. So thanks everyone! We appreciate it!

Thanks again!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Old Fart on May 02, 2015, 05:25:10 PM
Mine was on the doorstep Friday (guarded by the Fierce Wienerdog), had a few minutes today so did the extended magazine and bolt release. I'll have to post pictures of the removed components - "several" generations old than Andy's videos (I'm not sure which of my (2) 10/22's is which - but one of them dates back to the "$70 at K-Mart era") :)

Would have gone a bit further, but I used locktite when I put the scope rail on - so need to chuck the receiver in a vise, heat up a screwdriver, etc - have a social event to start getting ready for so maybe tomorrow.

Jeff


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Old Fart on May 03, 2015, 06:54:21 PM
Update - screws came out easy enough. Will clean tomorrow when I get home and put it all together :)


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jekbrown on March 23, 2016, 11:48:40 AM
Some quick questions I need answers to before I start buying stuff to build my 90/22/SBR:

1. What is the length of the SBR barrel hta makes?

2. What is the distance between the end of said bbl when installed and the "face" of the stock (presuming the factory faux-suppressor mount is removed)?

3. What is the exact OAL with said bbl installed?

4. Just how involved would it be to remove the 2"-ish part of the butt of the stock that is pretty much unused space/for NFA compliance?

5. If you're going to replace the bbl and trigger, does it matter at all which current version of the 10/22 I buy for this build or should I just buy whatever is cheapest? Any benefit to any model?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on March 24, 2016, 09:33:44 AM
Hey Jekbrown!

Thanks for the questions! I'll dive right in!

Our SBR barrel is just a hair over 14"- about 14.040" to be exact.

The barrel (from the crown) is approximately 2.1" from the face of the stock

The OAL with the SBR barrel is about 22.2"

It is reasonsably easy to remove the lug on the front of the stock. Even simple hand tools or a band saw could do it, depending on your competency. Of course, we would never advise altering the product in any way  ;)

All 10/22 will be esentially the same, it just needs to have a removable sight rail.

Hope all this helps! Please let me know if you have any other questions and thank you again!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jekbrown on March 25, 2016, 03:58:25 AM
Thanks for the speedy response. Just one finally measurement question: distance between the shoulder of the sbr bbl before the threads and the face of the stock (again, minus the faux suppressor protrusion)?



Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on March 26, 2016, 04:15:11 PM
Hey Jekbrown!

It looks like that distance, essentially the length of the lug on the front of the stock, is about 1.4"

Let me know if that helps! Thanks so much!

Andy and the team


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: jekbrown on March 26, 2016, 11:25:31 PM
Perfect, that's all I needed to know. I picked up my donor 10/22 today. Now all I need is a tax stamp...


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Ditcher on March 15, 2018, 09:46:26 PM
I heard you need to use a 18.5 barrel 1022 on the 90/22 to avoid the sbr tax stamp.  Is this true or will a 16" work?


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: HighTowerArmory on March 19, 2018, 11:46:58 AM
Hello Ditcher! Thanks so much for your question! The 90/22 needs an 18" barrel or longer to hit the 26" NFA minimum. So, yes, sadly the 16" barrel requires a tax stamp. There are a plethora of 10/22 barrels out there from people who swapped them out for something else, so your cheapest option is to try and find someone willing to part with their factory 18.5" barrel for cheap. We might even have some here. Let me know if you have any questions and thanks so much for your interest! We appreciate it!

Andy and the team at HTA


Title: Re: HTA 90/22 Bullpup
Post by: Gumbercules13 on November 06, 2018, 10:34:53 PM
Has anyone figured out how to use a shrouded barrel like the SB-X threaded barrel with the HTA 90/22 stock?