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« on: December 31, 2014, 06:01:36 PM »

Just got a call that mine is ready to ship to my local FFL.

Soon comes the long wait and all the paperwork.
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2015, 03:57:11 AM »

Got notice that the package was delivered to my ffl this week...I will try to get photos up in a few days. Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2015, 04:04:40 AM »

Those things look awesome and from the vids I have seen sound awesome. If they make a 556 version I will be all in. Just not willing to go 9mm for it.
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2015, 10:07:59 PM »

Those things look awesome and from the vids I have seen sound awesome. If they make a 556 version I will be all in. Just not willing to go 9mm for it.


5.56 version is in development right now, shoudl be ready late summer of this year.   Grin

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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2015, 10:13:11 PM »

Sven,

This may be asking more than you can comment at this point, but are you guys going for an 18" compatible version or just the 16.5 for now?
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2015, 12:40:02 AM »

Sven,

This may be asking more than you can comment at this point, but are you guys going for an 18" compatible version or just the 16.5 for now?

I do not know if there will be a version for the 18" guns, I am sure if there is demand it will be looked at.  Wink
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2015, 10:42:46 AM »

Sounds good Sir, thanks for the info!
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2015, 11:40:01 AM »

5.56 version is in development right now, shoudl be ready late summer of this year.   Grin



This is cool, thanks for the insider info.
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2015, 08:42:44 AM »

Mine came in to my dealer a couple of days ago. Because of local weather, won't be able to fondle it till next week.  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2015, 04:15:17 PM »

How effective will the 9MM version be on the 5.56 or is it not recommended?

I really don't want to buy two suppressors. 
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2015, 09:44:06 PM »

Sven,

This may be asking more than you can comment at this point, but are you guys going for an 18" compatible version or just the 16.5 for now?

I do not know if there will be a version for the 18" guns, I am sure if there is demand it will be looked at.  Wink

Seems like an 18" version would just use a longer fore-end tube, unless you wanted to use the space for a larger baffle pack.
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2015, 10:07:09 PM »

I don't get it Re. a suppressed 5.56.
So, you'll be shooting sub-sonic 5.56 ammo, or what ?

Friend of mine at the range has a suppressed 9mm AR-like semi SMG shooting sub-sonic ammo,
and it is frighteningly quiet.  All you hear is the usually unheard operation of the bolt,
and a slight spit as the round leaves the barrel.  It is totally cool, and expensive.

Regular 5.56 even with a suppressor, will have the accompanying crack that comes when the round breaks the sound barrier at 3,100 fps.  You can't suppress that, and it is a sharp and loud retort.
 
I don't get it.
What's the benny of a suppressed 5.56 unless it's sub-sonic ammo ?

What am I missing here ?
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2015, 10:39:36 PM »

I don't get it Re. a suppressed 5.56.
So, you'll be shooting sub-sonic 5.56 ammo, or what ?

Friend of mine at the range has a suppressed 9mm AR-like semi SMG shooting sub-sonic ammo,
and it is frighteningly quiet.  All you hear is the usually unheard operation of the bolt,
and a slight spit as the round leaves the barrel.  It is totally cool, and expensive.

Regular 5.56 even with a suppressor, will have the accompanying crack that comes when the round breaks the sound barrier at 3,100 fps.  You can't suppress that, and it is a sharp and loud retort.
 
I don't get it.
What's the benny of a suppressed 5.56 unless it's sub-sonic ammo ?

What am I missing here ?

Thousands of 5.56 supressors out there. Youtube has many videos of 5.56 suppressed. It protects your hearing, pleases the neighbors, and is an advantage when hunting. Plus they are just cool.
If it's not for you, well then that's OK too.

http://www.dakotasilencer.com/video-varmint-hunting-class-3-dealers-sd-silencer/
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2015, 10:54:25 PM »

Cool is fine, but marginal utility.
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2015, 12:09:44 AM »


The usual speed of sound is given as about 1,125 f.p.s. when all conditions are “normal.” You know the pellet has exceeded the sound barrier when you hear a sustained crack with the shot that cannot be attributed to the muzzle blast.

most subsonic ammo is running at 1050 F.P.S
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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2015, 12:44:33 AM »


The usual speed of sound is given as about 1,125 f.p.s. when all conditions are “normal.” You know the pellet has exceeded the sound barrier when you hear a sustained crack with the shot that cannot be attributed to the muzzle blast.

most subsonic ammo is running at 1050 F.P.S

Yup, agree. 
3100 fps will definitely give off a substantial crack.
I don't think Einstein or Wernher von Braun could devise a suppressor for that,
but we guys do many, many, many things for...just...plain...ole...fun.
Seems that "fun", much like Samuel Colt's patent revolver (1836), is the great equalizer.
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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2015, 12:49:55 AM »

I guess the entire rifle suppressor industry is out of touch. LOL
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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2015, 01:01:45 AM »

The issue has nothing to do with guns or industry, or likes or dislikes, or selling you rifle suppressors, or you buying rifle suppressors. 
The issue is physics-suppressing the sound barrier.
I can't seem to find a link to that suppressor.
Oh well...
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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2015, 05:41:26 PM »

How effective will the 9MM version be on the 5.56 or is it not recommended?

I really don't want to buy two suppressors. 

It is not recommended, the 9mm ZRX uses an aluminum baffle stack that would not stand up to the abuse from 5.56 or 300 blackout rounds.

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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2015, 09:12:41 AM »

So this may or may not apply to civilian use but in the military suppressors are used on 5.56 so when shooting in doors, clearing rooms etc you don't blow your hearing.  It's still loud, but not near as bad.  A lot of guys forego the use of ear pro in the field because even the electronic ones mess with your hearing.

Same situation applies in your house if there is a break in.  If your 5.56 is your go to weapon are you going search around for your gun and ear pro?  Just some what if situations, a suppressor on 5.56 does have it's uses besides attempting to make it "movie quiet".
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