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Author Topic: Tavor Trigger Shootout: Geissele, Shooting Sight, Timney, & Factory  (Read 84676 times)
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« Reply #100 on: March 20, 2016, 01:58:21 AM »

There were a couple of members that installed it on ShootingSight triggers and felt it was too light, also there were some concerns that it eliminated the OEM triggers built in safety.

AE
Art does have TAV-D Packs that are heavier . I have one and you can feel the difference between that and the standard Tav-D

Yes, his LEO version is heavier.

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« Reply #101 on: July 22, 2016, 03:34:30 PM »

I've read through this thread and have not seen where the trigger pull poundage is stated for the Timney? 

I've also gone to their website and have not found it?
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« Reply #102 on: July 22, 2016, 08:31:28 PM »

I've read through this thread and have not seen where the trigger pull poundage is stated for the Timney? 

I've also gone to their website and have not found it?

Well for the second and third round it is zero pounds.

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« Reply #103 on: July 22, 2016, 09:07:06 PM »

I don't understand?
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« Reply #104 on: July 22, 2016, 10:14:40 PM »

The Timney's are know to double and triple, pull the trigger once at # pounds and you might get multiple shots! Yea!

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« Reply #105 on: July 22, 2016, 10:46:32 PM »

that don't sound good!
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« Reply #106 on: August 13, 2016, 02:58:08 AM »

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« Reply #107 on: August 15, 2016, 01:16:16 PM »

Got my Shooting Sight Tav-D trigger pack installed.  Trigger pull went from 10.5 down to 5.5.
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« Reply #108 on: September 18, 2016, 04:43:36 PM »

Of the 3, which has the least pull?  Also, I hear there are problems fitting these packs into the newer Tavors and the X95?  Is this true?
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« Reply #109 on: September 19, 2016, 10:06:46 AM »

Of the 3, which has the least pull?  Also, I hear there are problems fitting these packs into the newer Tavors and the X95?  Is this true?

Lightest pull would be the Shooting Sight standard with Geissele Lighting Bow, from reports brings it down to between2 and 3 pounds. My standard Shooting sight was between 4.5 and 5 pounds. I got a Shooting Sight LE for my X95 but have not measured it, also sent in my standard one to get the pull weights approximately the same on both it and the LE.

Don't have a Geissele so can't comment on the pull weight.

Would not even consider a Timney with all the issues they had.

Latest generation Shooting Sight and Geissele fit the latest generation Tavor and  X95 as well as being backwards compatible to older generation Tavors.

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« Reply #110 on: September 19, 2016, 01:44:46 PM »

The Geissele Super Sabra has an adjustable pull.  I believe you can adjust it to break as low as 3 lbs.  I have not tried to find the high end of the range as I have adjusted mine to ~4.5 lbs.

Aussie E is correct in that when I coupled my Shooting Sight Tav-D trigger pack with the Geissele Lightning Bow, my trigger pull dropped to below 3 lbs, which was too low for me.  Prior to installing the Lightning Bow, the Tav-D was breaking at ~4 lbs when coupled with the original Tavor trigger bow (which generally sucks).  The Lightning Bow is the single best upgrade to make as it takes all the slop out of the trigger.
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« Reply #111 on: September 25, 2016, 09:52:05 AM »

The trigger system in the Tavor has 2 springs which make up the pull force: 1 spring is in the trigger pack, and a second spring is in the trigger bow/linkage, which adds about 1.5lb and acts as part of the drop safety.  Together, they make up the total trigger pull.  When you put in the lightning bow, it eliminates the spring and the drop safety in the linkage.

As a result, the ShootingSight trigger which is 4-5lb with the OEM trigger bow, will drop to 2-3lb with the lightning bow.

With the Geisselle trigger, you need to adjust the pull pressure up.  With the Tav-D, you can either order the 'LE' model trigger, which was designed for heavier springs for tactical use (where you do not want a light trigger), or you can send in your trigger pack, and I'll upgrade the springs for free to add some extra weight to the pull.

In reality, while a solid pull in the first stage feels nice, it does nothing to add to the rifle's accuracy.  What matters is the last 1% of the pull, after you have hit the second stage.  Getting that sharp break is what allows the trigger control that will improve accuracy.
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« Reply #112 on: September 25, 2016, 09:24:23 PM »

So what pull weights would you end up with in the X95 with the Tav-D LE and the Lightning Bow?
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« Reply #113 on: November 05, 2016, 09:34:51 AM »

As a result, the ShootingSight trigger which is 4-5lb with the OEM trigger bow, will drop to 2-3lb with the lightning bow.



He says it right here...
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« Reply #114 on: November 06, 2016, 10:04:26 PM »

I asked what the trigger pull with the Lightning Bow and the Tav-D LE, not the regular Tav-D. Moot point, though, since I got the Super Sabra.
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« Reply #115 on: November 11, 2016, 09:04:00 AM »

Quantico Tactical has a 20% off special on the Super Sabra Gen 2 trigger pack...  Regularly $350, now $280.

1st Stage Weight: 3.5 - 5.5 lbs.
2nd Stage Weight: 2.0 lbs.
Total Pull Weight:5.5 - 7.5 lbs

LINK:   http://www.quanticotactical.com/asp/itemDetail.asp?dispItemNum=4943&type=M&CMN=Geissele&CMNum=245&CMSNum=1121&CMSN=Triggers
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« Reply #116 on: November 12, 2016, 12:26:19 PM »

Sadly, the trigger and sear pack are not in stock at Quantico Tactical. No estimate is given on how long it will take for delivery.
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« Reply #117 on: November 28, 2016, 02:29:09 AM »

I got the Geiselle from Primary Arms on black Friday for $245, then I saw that Geiselle had it for the same price with free shipping. Looks like the sale is still on.

https://geissele.com/super-sabra-trigger-tavor.html

They also have the lightning bow for $69.30.

https://geissele.com/sabra-lighting-bow-trigger.html
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« Reply #118 on: December 08, 2016, 09:51:12 AM »

Optics Planet has the Geissele Super Sabra for $305.99, plus a 10% discount code 'holiday'.  With free shipping, my total came to $275.39

http://www.opticsplanet.com/geissele-super-sabra-trigger-pack-for-iwi-tavor-rifles-05-267.html
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« Reply #119 on: December 11, 2016, 02:01:44 PM »

I have been really impressed with my Tavor SAR after installing the Tavor® X95™ Fire Control Pack.

It is a significant improvement over the stock SAR trigger!

I have held off installing the Giessele Trigger Bow and may find a IWI certified armorer.
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