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spartan2381
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« on: January 31, 2014, 09:30:22 PM »

I just picked up a UTS-15 and the ammo I have will not feed, it jams. The ammo I have tried is listed below. Can anyone list ammo that will feed reliability?

Royal Buck
12 Gauge
2 3/4 Length
00 Buck (9 pellets)

Winchester SuperX
12 Gauge
2 3/4 Length
1oz slug


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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2014, 11:03:45 PM »

What you have there would actually be considered more of a 3" shell.

I make snap caps (B's Dry Fire Snap Caps) and I recently discovered this problem with the UTS-15 when trying the 3" green caps that I make. They rack perfectly in the right magazine, but not the left (at all). My "3 inch" shells are actually 2.5", which is the norm in shotgun shells. My 3" Winchester slugs are actually just above 2.5". They also don't rack properly in my UTS-15. This is a MAJOR flaw, since the gun is said to be compatible with 3" shells. In fact, I have already sent my gun in for them to repair this very issue, they replaced a whole bunch of crap, and it STILL doesn't rack them properly.

Technically, if a round was actually 3", it wouldn't fit in the UTS-15 at all. The 2.5" ones barely fit, and feels very unnatural to load them.







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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2014, 11:16:53 PM »

I get the same failure as you posted in the pictures.The frustrating things is I picked up the gun yesterday and from what I can tell is gen 2.

Have you found and ammo that will function correctly in this gun?
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2014, 11:17:40 PM »

The "3 inch" winchester round I was referring to....



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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2014, 11:22:44 PM »

I'll see if I can pick up those shells tomorrow and give it a try. Hopefully we will get some other recommendations of what people are running.
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2014, 11:26:46 PM »

I get the same failure as you posted in the pictures.The frustrating things is I picked up the gun yesterday and from what I can tell is gen 2.

Have you found and ammo that will function correctly in this gun?

Yea, any shell that is actually shorter than 2.5" will likely work just fine. I've used Winchester Super-X  2 3/4, Herters Dove and Quail 2 3/4, and so on. I'm actually surprised that your rounds are advertised as 2 3/4. I took a pic of both of these rounds for you to see. Both are actually less than 2 1/4"


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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2014, 11:27:55 PM »

I'll see if I can pick up those shells tomorrow and give it a try. Hopefully we will get some other recommendations of what people are running.

DO NOT get the 3" Winchester round. That was the round that I said also didn't work because it is 2.5" and above. Get the rounds I just recommended in the post before this one.
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2014, 11:31:39 PM »

Got it. This sucks, the gun is advertised as being able to run 3" shells and from what your saying anything above 2.5 inches will not feed correctly. I'm regretting not getting the keltek,I thought UTAS fixed these issues with the gen 2 revision.

I'll see what Dick's has in stock and grab a box and see what happens. Thanks for all your input and advice.
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2014, 12:50:27 AM »

To be honest I haven't fired 3" Shotshells through my UTS-15 yet. I thought they were 2 3/4" when they are fired and that is where the length came from?

I run Fiocchi 2 3/4" 7/8 Ounce Slugs, Hornady "Zombie Max" 00 Buck, Winchester Mil-Spec 00 Buck, and some Winchester Slugs (forgot the brand, maybe what you have?) through my Gen 1 & Gen 2 (had it upgraded so I had experience with both) and had little to no issues. Though, I never shot 3" magnums yet.
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2014, 01:04:13 AM »

To be honest I haven't fired 3" Shotshells through my UTS-15 yet. I thought they were 2 3/4" when they are fired and that is where the length came from?

I run Fiocchi 2 3/4" 7/8 Ounce Slugs, Hornady "Zombie Max" 00 Buck, Winchester Mil-Spec 00 Buck, and some Winchester Slugs (forgot the brand, maybe what you have?) through my Gen 1 & Gen 2 (had it upgraded so I had experience with both) and had little to no issues. Though, I never shot 3" magnums yet.

I believe the lengths stated on the box refer to the un-crimped state, either before or after its fired. Honestly I think its kind of silly.
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2014, 02:23:57 AM »

I've used the Winchester 3" Magnums 000B in my UTS-15 and they cycled just fine.  I use the Federal Tactical 2 3/4 00B and I would have to press down a the 6th round in order to get the 7th round in the magazine tube but I don't have this problem with the Remington 2 3/4 00B high brass rounds.  For target and range purposes, I use the Remington #7s.  I think I picked up 250 rounds from Dick's for about $70.  What I've notice with my UTS-15 is that the tolerance is very tight.  I wish UTAS would have taken the approach that Glock has with regard to their chamber tolerances.  I think the shells would feed a lot better. 
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2014, 10:36:34 AM »

I've used the Winchester 3" Magnums 000B in my UTS-15 and they cycled just fine.

Can you tell us the actual length of your Winchester 3" Magnums 000B rounds?

How about the Federal Tactical 2 3/4 00B rounds as well...?
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2014, 03:10:45 AM »

Just found a review where they state that "3 inch shells are an absolute NO in this gun", and that they had problems with them cycling correctly. So, it is apparently a wide spread issue, but they also state that the Keltec had the same issue, so Spartan2381, don't feel bad - you would have had the same issue had you gotten the Keltec.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/15-round-pump-shotgun-uts-15-utas-gun-review/
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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2014, 03:50:06 PM »

I order some Winchester Military-Grade 2 3/4 00 Buckshot and Winchester Super-X Buckshot 2 3/4 00 Buckshot to try out. I'll post my results once I get a chance to run them through.

I'm considering doing my own casting. Does anyone have any recommendations on what type of hulls to use?
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2014, 09:27:52 PM »

Tried some Hornady "Zombie Max" 0 buck for the first time in my UTS and only had 1 failure to extract in 30 rounds.  What actually happened on the last shell was it instead of extracting, the extracted shell made it back in to the chamber and I had to fully rack it forward and then back and in doing so that finally extracted the casing. 

Weird failure,but an easy fix.  Anyone else ever have this happen?
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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2014, 11:12:54 PM »

That's a weird issue... I had an issue a while back where the extractor seemed to not even grab the shell, but UTAS fixed it for me.

Is it just me or does it seem 2 3/4" shells are closer in size than 3" Magnums? I know both the KelTec and UTS15 are having issues with this at the moment, I wonder if it doesn't help that there are so many varying measurements in shells.
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2014, 06:37:34 PM »

That's a weird issue... I had an issue a while back where the extractor seemed to not even grab the shell, but UTAS fixed it for me.

Is it just me or does it seem 2 3/4" shells are closer in size than 3" Magnums? I know both the KelTec and UTS15 are having issues with this at the moment, I wonder if it doesn't help that there are so many varying measurements in shells.

It was a very weird issue but I'm not going to let it deter me.  I like the Hornady 00 buck as they shot well except for this 1 issue.  At least I know how to clear the jam if it happens again.
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2014, 09:36:24 PM »

Anyone try these slugs in their UTS?

http://www.sgammo.com/product/12-gauge/5-round-box-12-gauge-275-inch-ddupleks-monolit28-1-oz-slug-am1933

Monolit 12/70 slugs.
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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2014, 07:41:54 AM »

I use winchester 3" slugs and buckshot and have no issues.

My gun did have issues as you are describing and the trouble was the chamber looked like it use cut with a Turkish hand drill and the machining of the operating mechinism was poor. I returned it to UTS with all my observations, sent the gun to UTS and it was returned in a condition that the gun should have been at the start. Send the gun back to UTS for corrective action and remedy.
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« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2015, 02:08:02 PM »

I've used Estate 2 1/2 00 buck without a single hickup.  You can find them and other good stuff at ammoman.com
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