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« on: August 12, 2019, 03:30:32 AM »

I know the AUG was invented in 1977, but when was it first imported into the US for civilian sale? Ie when were they first available in gunshops/mail order catalogs?

Also, what variants were available? Was it just the 20", or were 16" models available? And were the 42rd mags available or were they just 30's when they were first imported?

I found this old Ad from 1985, were they available earlier?


$783 in 1985 corresponds to $1863 in 2019, so not that much of a price change.

This ad is reportedly from 1986:


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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2019, 10:33:39 AM »

Your question raised my curiosity, and you're right...there's not a lot out there that covers exactly when the AUG was officially shipped to the U.S. by Steyr for civilian sale.  It seems to have shown up first in the movies in 1983, but that really tells little about release for sale here.
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2019, 11:20:06 AM »

 I bought my first A1 model in 1985
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2019, 10:03:52 PM »

Good question, I don't have concrete data on the subject, but would like to know more myself. In the early 1980's Steyr had an import subsidiary in Syracuse NJ that I've read brought in some of the very first AUG's, however I have never seen one. Interestingly Steyr Syracuse, NJ is probably most known for importing the Egyptian Maadi AKM's, which were the very first AK rifles to ever be imported in the US. Beyond that details about Steyr Syracuse, NJ as an importer, and what happened to them just doesn't exist. I would say the first AUG's came in around 1981 or 1982. Most the early guns were actually brought in by Interarms out of Alexandria VA. I've read they brought in about 1500, all green 20" barrel. Most/all were the pre A1 guns with the open ended 3 prong FH, and no roller on the BCG. Right around the mid-1980's Gun South Inc. in Trussville AL took over all Steyr imports, and continued to do until the mid 2000's when they had a falling out with Steyr. Most of the GSI imports were also 20" green, but by this point they were coming with A1 enhancements such as closed FH and roller on BCG. GSI also imported a lot of the accessories like the 24" HBAR kits, 14" barrels, 9mm kits, special receivers, etc. I don't think the 16" barrel was an option in the USA until around the time the import ban hit in 1989. Steyr and GSI shifted their marketing towards the LEO market once the import ban hit, hence the name "AUG P" (police) for the black 16" barreled A1's. Most of those guns were sold to LEO, but could be resold to civilian market. I don't believe many, if any, of those actually got in before the 1989 import ban, as most of the marketing I've ever seen link them to about 1990 at the earliest. The one I personally own was a 1990 import that was originally sold to a LEO. In total about 5000 20" green and 1500 16" black were brought in.
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2019, 01:16:14 PM »

 Actually the AUG-P was a factory gun prior to 1987. The U.S. Customs Service bought approximately 1,700 of the as their issued rifle from 1989 until 2005. The Semi-auto version was being imported into the country just prior to the ban. I believe there were approximately 1,100 semi-auto AUG-P models that were actually cleared by U.S. Customs, but had not been shipped from the bonded warehouse, prior to the ban. They were held for over a year before an agreement to sell those rifles to LEO's only was made with the government and Steyr. They were sold to LEO's on letterhead.
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2019, 03:38:28 PM »

Actually the AUG-P was a factory gun prior to 1987. The U.S. Customs Service bought approximately 1,700 of the as their issued rifle from 1989 until 2005. The Semi-auto version was being imported into the country just prior to the ban. I believe there were approximately 1,100 semi-auto AUG-P models that were actually cleared by U.S. Customs, but had not been shipped from the bonded warehouse, prior to the ban. They were held for over a year before an agreement to sell those rifles to LEO's only was made with the government and Steyr. They were sold to LEO's on letterhead.

Good info, thanks for sharing. I suspect not many of the 1100 rifles you're citing were AUG P variants though. This ad suggests it was predominantly AUG SA (20" green).



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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2019, 03:12:29 PM »

As a side note, looking at the original post, I find it amazing that the AUG costs 26% more than a HK 94  Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2019, 05:55:51 PM »

I know the AUG was invented in 1977, but when was it first imported into the US for civilian sale? Ie when were they first available in gunshops/mail order catalogs?

Also, what variants were available? Was it just the 20", or were 16" models available? And were the 42rd mags available or were they just 30's when they were first imported?

I found this old Ad from 1985, were they available earlier?


$783 in 1985 corresponds to $1863 in 2019, so not that much of a price change.

This ad is reportedly from 1986:




94A3 for under $600. Valmet for under $400. Ugh.
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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2019, 10:52:14 AM »

Actually the AUG-P was a factory gun prior to 1987. The U.S. Customs Service bought approximately 1,700 of the as their issued rifle from 1989 until 2005. The Semi-auto version was being imported into the country just prior to the ban. I believe there were approximately 1,100 semi-auto AUG-P models that were actually cleared by U.S. Customs, but had not been shipped from the bonded warehouse, prior to the ban. They were held for over a year before an agreement to sell those rifles to LEO's only was made with the government and Steyr. They were sold to LEO's on letterhead.

Good info, thanks for sharing. I suspect not many of the 1100 rifles you're citing were AUG P variants though. This ad suggests it was predominantly AUG SA (20" green).



Actually they may have all been Aug-p semi-autos, as they were only allowed to be sold to LEOs, and as I recall the green stock 20 inch guns were not offered.
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