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777Driver
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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2019, 12:27:06 PM »

Finally got my new BP-12 to the range.
Tried some 8-shot, 6-shot, 4-shot, and 4-shot heavy load.
25 rounds of each.  It ate them up.  Only 1 FTE.

Hmmmm, Looks like I need to adjust the sights a little up, and to the right.


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« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2019, 02:36:16 PM »

It's been several weeks now and I still have not received the replacement bolt handle... not that it matters. I finally found time to get the original TIG welded and got the shotgun back together yesterday. These welds aren't coming apart any time soon.  Grin
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« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2019, 07:31:42 PM »

Good to hear. 
Was it hard to find someone to weld it? 
How much did it cost?
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« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2019, 08:56:52 PM »

Eighty dollars... I went to a place near my house that builds heavy duty wagons. I knew they rod welded and wouldn't be able to do the repair but figured they could point me in the right direction.  Local fellow that does TIG welding and doesn't advertise. Has more work than he can handle... just by word of mouth from satisfied customers.   Wink
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« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2019, 03:09:09 PM »

TIG welding.  I had to Google that.
Thanks Emishi, that's two good bits of info you've given me.
This is exactly what forums are for!
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« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2019, 03:46:49 PM »

interesting -- how long have they been coming in?
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« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2019, 12:41:59 PM »

Not long, only got approved by the ATF this year (2019).
I think in the spring.
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« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2019, 01:31:42 PM »

ordered  one today - Turkish military makes some nice firearms - have one of their MP5 clones

wonder how it compares to the EAA Akdal MKA 1923
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« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2019, 08:19:43 PM »

Well if other BP-12's are like mine... it don't like Winchester White Box #8 Shot.  Angry

I'm trying to get thru 200 rounds of the crap.  Shocked
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« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2019, 06:57:36 PM »

Really?  I haven't had any problems with WWB. 
I shot three boxes (75 shots) of #8, #6, & #4 shot WWB without a hitch.
In fact, I only got one FTE out of 200 rounds, and it was on a Federal round.
I got a couple boxes of 9 pellet Buckshot to try next.
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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2019, 10:58:52 AM »

Well I finally took my BP-12 out to the range yesterday, and had an interesting experience.

I was using four different types of ammo.

Remington pheasant load(4-6 can’t remember) 2.75” 1330fps
Winchester white box 00 buck 3” 1210fps
Winchester white box rifled slugs 2.75” (don’t remember exact fps but I know it was similar to the other ammo I was using so around the 1325 range)

And some “Military Grade” 00 buck 2.75” 1325fps (plain tan boxes stamped ‘Orion’ but I’ve also seen it listed as Winchester)


First and foremost it was regularly doing 2 round “bursts”.
When I pulled the trigger it was firing 2 rounds.
Not every time, but the majority of the time. I believe it was doing it with all 4 types of ammo too.

It did not like the Remington pheasant loads very much.
Out of a box of 25 I had at least a half dozen FTF and misfeeds.

I had similar misfeeds with all 4 types of ammo.
Seemed like when I pulled the trigger it resulted in either a 2 round burst or a misfeed.

Also had issues with using the 10 round mags for it.
They are the Panzer Arms steel 10 rounders. Never got an entire mag fed through with out at least one misfeed.

I am really kind of bummed by this, as I love the gun, and really want the reliability I’ve heard about from others.
Do you think that some higher velocity rounds would help?
Is this just part of the breaking in period and should sort itself out?

All in all I guess the 2 round burst doesn’t bother me too much, aside from the fact that I’m sure it’s putting extra stresses on parts that weren’t intended to fire that way, and of course the other fact that, technically, it could be considered illegal.


I did send an email to their support department, through their website, but have yet to hear back.
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« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2019, 03:05:20 PM »

Getting a two round burst on one trigger pull is a problem (unless you like it).
Personally, I don't like a gun doing something unless I want it to.
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« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2019, 04:36:35 PM »

Yeah, I think I understated my position on it. It does bother me.
Obviously there is something going on that isn't supposed to be happening, and that is generally not a good thing with a firearm.
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« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2019, 01:18:22 AM »

First post on here.

King, i had this happening on my AR. It ended up being a part of the FCG not catching.

I also had the fault of that piece not catching, so the hammer would ride the bolt as it came forward, resulting in a small dimple on the primer of a live round, but no bang on a trigger pull attempt, as the hammer would already be resting on the round.

Now while i have my BP-12, it's under the tree. So i can't tell if this could be your problem.

I'd contact the Redmond office though...
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« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2020, 02:06:59 PM »

Sounds like my BP had the same issue as your AR, IdahoJOAT.

I finally got in contact with Dan's Sporting Goods, who are the "official" service / repair rep. for PW Arms, in the US.
Got the shotgun sent in, so now it's just the waiting game, for them to get it working properly, and then get it back to me.

I miss it already.  Cry  lol
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