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777Driver
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« on: August 04, 2019, 11:50:14 AM »

Panzer Arms out of Turkey, has started selling the BP-12 shotgun at a reasonable price ($500 from Classic Firearms).  
This is a 12 guage shotgun that comes with two 5-round magazines (10-round magazines are also available).
Bullpup Forum should add a "Panzer Arms BP-12" category under its shotgun section, because I think this is going to be a big seller.



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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2019, 12:01:37 PM »

I would be interested to hear how it performs once you get it and your impressions of the overall build quality, etc. I was looking at Kel tec's KS 7 as their KSG was just too heavy and complicated. The roll out of the KS 7 has not been stellar from what I have read and I would like to have something solid and reliable.
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2019, 12:56:31 PM »

Will do. 
I should be getting it by the end of the week. 
I am eagerly awaiting!
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2019, 05:51:42 PM »

     I received mine about 2 weeks ago. I removed the forward sling attachment and added a Blackhawk! locking rifle sling swivel to the rear slot and a Magpul RSA Rail sling attachment to the rear of the left-hand picatinny rail.  Replaced the fore-grip with a FAB Defense T-POD G2 FA
3 in 1: Fore-grip Flashlight Holder & Bi-pod G2 with a Stream-light 1000 lumen tac light. Added a Vortex Spitfire red dot and covered the rest of the exposed rail with Tactical Mlok Type 2 Rail Covers off of Ebay while also adding a slip-on recoil pad.

     I have a Magpul grip with inter-changeable back-straps but have yet to see if it wiil fit with the thumb-web (curved) strap. If it does... then a FAB Defense rubberized ergo pistol-grip will find a home there.

    I had it to the range on Saturday and sighted it in a 25 meters with rifled slugs and the fore-grip bi-pod extended. Couldn't be more pleased with the setup... even though I received the Spitfire by mistake (ordered the Strikefire).

     Recoil is negligible. Spitfire puts rifled slugs dead center of target. Shotgun has had 15 rounds thru it thus far so #8 shot had 1 Failure to Eject out of 5.

     Next outing I'll fine tune the red dot for 50 meters and run a bunch of #8 shot to finish breaking it in, then pattern some #4 and 00.
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2019, 07:37:04 PM »

Appreciate the info.
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2019, 09:31:46 PM »

Wish it was lefty friendly. Looks like a promising shotgun.

Turkey makes good stuff it seems.
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2019, 09:48:26 PM »

     I can't speak to any gas blow-back to your face, but the shells eject in the 2 o'clock to 3 o'clock position... if the muzzle is the 12 o'clock position... so not back into your face, but definitely across and a bit below your line of vision.
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2019, 11:45:17 AM »

Wish it was lefty friendly. Looks like a promising shotgun.

Turkey makes good stuff it seems.
Not to get off the subject of bullpups, but I have a Hatsan Escort MPA semi-auto shotgun and their quality is very high. Turkey does make some good firearms.
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2019, 11:49:27 AM »

love the charging handle

hows the mag release do back there??
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2019, 03:23:24 PM »

Emishi, wow, you did a lot of modifying to yours.
I don't expect to do much to mine, but we'll see.
I like that it has two charging handles: One on top like an AR-15; and one on the side like a Tommy gun. 
And the one on the side can be moved to the left side or right, whatever you prefer.
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2019, 03:27:47 PM »

Gee, I like this forum!
One day I suggest that they make a "Panzer Arms BP-12" category, and the next day Sgt_P makes it happen.
Thanks Sarge!
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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2019, 10:02:07 PM »

Well... I couldn't let the AR-15 be the only Diva in the safe.  Grin


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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2019, 12:41:02 AM »

Don't know if the pics from google photos will work but here's trying. :p

https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNMN08m2_2p3ueyZhqw2fZf2ZnHTHvlw_MGZAT2

https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipOJ5gpGiC786njfi7MpOIDRd-v24PLGf-t5TjB1

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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2019, 08:36:30 PM »

Keep and eye out for the welds on the bolt handle (part #57) as mine is now in two pieces... broken cleanly along the piss poor welds. Angry
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2019, 02:41:58 PM »

Keep and eye out for the welds on the bolt handle (part #57) as mine is now in two pieces... broken cleanly along the piss poor welds. Angry

That's not good.  Any advice? 
What are you going to do?
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2019, 12:29:26 PM »

     Spoke with Stacy Prineas this morning, President of PW Arms, Inc. and explained the situation. Real nice fellow. he requested photos of the failed part and serial number of the weapon so they could get a new part out to me.  He doesn't want the failed part back, so I told him I'd probably have it re-welded or try and find someone to redesign it to my specs. LOL!

     He asked what that would entail as he has a meeting in 10 days with the manufacturer and would like to present a fix/upgrade, so I get to modify the photos... extending the push/pull rod and incorporating a key-way instead of the notch so the welds don't take the stress of the bolt slamming home.

     As it stands, the notch and key, handle the rearward motion of the recoil.... with only the tiny welds absorbing the force of the bolt slamming home. Too many failure to ejects will destroy the welds, as will a slightly short push/pull rod.  (these are just my observations of the mechanics)  :p
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2019, 03:52:27 PM »

How did you get Stacy's number; and can I have it?
Just took delivery of mine today.  Can't wait to get it to the range.
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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2019, 04:33:32 PM »

Stacy N. Prineas
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PW Arms, Inc.
8525 152nd Ave NE
Redmond, WA 98052
USA
Tel: 425-882-1161
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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2019, 11:32:15 PM »

Thanks!
Gonna keep Stacy's info on file, just in case.
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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2019, 01:02:53 AM »

this is how I wished IWI would have made their shotgun, with a mag fed (dual stack 10-15 rounds) , Instead of the stupid shoot-twist the chamber,shoot- twist the chamber,etc,etc
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