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whiskey91lima
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« on: March 14, 2019, 06:59:48 PM »

What is this bullpup?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4aEyP7oE04
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2019, 07:29:44 PM »

No clue.  It isn't a modified MDR, unless they went back to the drawing board and created something completely different; the charging handle is too far forward and ejection port looks to be a bit forward (in relation to the mag well) than on the MDR.  My next thought was that it was an MSDS bullpup, VHS, or some version of the Type 97, but all of those are significantly different.  Also, this one appears to have an adjustable stock on it.

It could be a homegrown design that hasn't been teased or released before now.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2019, 08:09:01 PM »

The mag release button area looks very MDRish..as well as the overpressure plug in the receiver..
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2019, 08:22:38 PM »

Agreed on the mag release button, but that's about it.  It could be a caliber specific stripped down rifle that owes some design language to the MDR, but beyond that, the cosmetics and charging handle are completely different.
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2019, 08:57:31 PM »

Maybe it is a VHS?

https://youtu.be/yFRBgkQsMe0

Edit: That doesnt look right either. The magwell and mag release don't look right. That is unless it's a modified VHS. It is much closer to.the VHS than the MDR.

This is InRange after all, they will release a full video later.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2019, 10:43:23 PM »

The lines are all wrong for it to be a VHS and there isn't enough molded "bits" sticking out all over the place for it.

One thing that is intriguing is that it looks like it has a collapsing/adjustable stock of about an inch or so.
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2019, 12:01:10 AM »

Yeah, it's an interesting gun.
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2019, 12:06:21 AM »

It looks like the receiver says SM-44, but the font for the S looks different than the rest of the letters/numbers.
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2019, 12:10:21 AM »

SM? Maybe Standard Manufacturing is getting into bullpup rifles?
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2019, 11:56:33 AM »

 
   Wow.  Note the chute for right-side ejection; it looks non-convertible but might be an attempt to make it lefty-friendly.
   
   I guess, but am not certain, that that's some flavor of AR-15 piston upper.  I can see a front pin in about the right place; the rear pin location is obscured.  It has a forward (presumably ambi) charging handle, and no forward assist, but is clearly NOT a Faxon ARAK-21.

   I look forward to learning more.
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2019, 07:17:00 PM »

At the moment, I am sort of leaning towards it being something from FB Radom, a modification/product improved version of the MSBS, though the ejection port/rear of the receiver and charging handles are in the wrong area, the mag ejection button is in the right are.

Hopefully they'll come clean.
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2019, 03:39:43 PM »

If you look at the magwell and cheek area it looks a lot like Manticore Arms evo bullpup kit. I inquired a while back as to if they where goung to make a kit for bren 2ís....

Even the deflector is the same.....


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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2019, 04:28:26 PM »

Whatever it is, carbon fiber is a no go aesthetically....
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2019, 05:18:28 PM »

Gents,

Working on this design since 2013..  I will release more information soon.


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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2019, 02:20:52 AM »

Gents,

Working on this design since 2013..  I will release more information soon.

Ah it's a home build. The lower looks 3D printed in your picture. Interesting rifle.
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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2019, 08:35:21 AM »

Very cool. Its ingenuity like this that sets the American firearms industry apart from the rest of the world. Interested to hear and see more.

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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2019, 01:47:06 PM »

Gents,

Attached is my attempt at a marketing document. 

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« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2019, 04:24:19 PM »

Nice job. Looking for Beta testers?

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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2019, 04:34:56 PM »

An AR15 compatible upper for a bullpup is exactly what I have been thinking about recently. Good job.

Is the safety a drop-in AR-15 safety?
Any idea on when production models may be available?
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« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2019, 05:24:00 PM »

Thank you for the kind words.  I am currently working with a manufacturer on the secondary prototypes.  These will be modified to be more production friendly.  Serendipitously, this particular manufacturer is letting me complete all CAD work and stay in the process!  Here are the modifications that I am working on:

1)  Extrusion Dies for the handguard and then CNC finishing work..  Think about DMR uppers, PDW uppers etc..
2)  Aft magazine release, now there will be all controls forward and rearward
3)  New charge handle system that mechanically closes the forward slot
4)  AR-15 dust covers that will mount on either side depending on configuration

The safety, FCG, Bolt, lower (modified), upper (modified) and all related hardware are standard AR-15 parts.. anything milspec works..  The safety system is mechanically connected to the actual AR-15 safety as opposed to a trigger locking system that is prevalent on many other designs.  The PDW prototype is the shortest, lightest design that I could come up with and am hoping to hold onto the 5.5lbs total weight if this rifle makes it to production.  Happy to answer any and all questions!
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