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« Reply #60 on: June 29, 2018, 03:12:57 PM »

Here is the URL to DT's info video on production, release and the gas valve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19gG-OZ3DFQ&t=1s

Says the video has been removed by the user.
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« Reply #61 on: June 29, 2018, 03:14:14 PM »

https://youtu.be/txg8zWCB5tg
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« Reply #62 on: June 29, 2018, 03:46:31 PM »

Nick,

Thanks for posting these videos, warts and all.
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« Reply #63 on: June 29, 2018, 04:14:41 PM »


Kudos for deciding to give the 6-valve gas plug as a standard part for past, present and future MDRs...great job for listening to us.

Also...nice to see the tests and the mishaps...not many would have done that.

Great steps forward.
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« Reply #64 on: June 29, 2018, 06:16:35 PM »

Some more questions for Mr. Young:

- In relation to the drop-test video, were any of the parts that broke reinforced or redesigned after the test to alleviate those issues? HK's breaking charging handles is pretty normal for them, so I don't consider that to be a major issue, but I was wondering specifically if the MDR's pistol grip was reinforced at all.

- There was some discussion as to how one would go about cerakoting / hydrodipping their MDR, which would require complete disassembly, beyond what DT recommends, while still keeping the warranty.
Many people expressed their desire for some sort of certified cerakoting company that has been taught and deputized by Desert Tech for how to do it properly and reassemble the guns properly so as to get Desert Tech's approval, that customers who go through that company will keep their warranty. That, or just the option for Desert Tech themselves to do the work for a price, but I feel that deputizing another entity would be more prudent.
Is there any chance Desert Tech would consider such an arrangement with such a company?

- Would Desert Tech be open to the idea of offering an optional high-profile rear magazine release?

- Does Desert Tech have any plans to alleviate the problems with the stiffness of the magazine releases?

- Would Desert Tech be open to the idea of offering an optional low-profile gas block, one that isn't exposed to the outside and isn't prone to burning fingers? That, or perhaps some sort of cover or guard?

- If you are willing to share, Iím curious what that BCG problem was with the .223 MDR.

- Are there any other calibers being considered after .300blackout?

- Will the MDR-C handguard be available separately, as the suppressor handguard is?

- Is the Airsoft Silverback MDR licensed with Desert Techís permission?

- Others have mentioned that a possible fix to the ripping rims issue might be increasing the area of extractor engagement. Thoughts?

- Some rifles with deeper magazine wells wonít take 10rd Magpul pmags. Does the MDR in .223 accept 10rd .223/5.56 Magpul pmags?

- Can the charging handles function as forward assists?

- Will .223 also receive a 6-position gas valve as .308 did?


I think we all VERY much appreciate the addition of the 6-position gas valve as a standard part in the MDR.
Earlier, you requested a link to the website of the company who is making an aftermarket aluminum MDR handguard. The company is Lucky Irishman Firearms, owned by Richard Murphy, and this would be their website: http://lifeindustries.net/index.html
Note that their MDR handguard isn't released yet, and as such isn't on their website yet. You would have to contact Mr. Murphy directly to get one early, I would presume.
In case you were also interested in checking out the aftermarket MDR trigger, that is going to be offered by RPS through ShootingSight, link here: https://shootingsight.com/product/mdr/
On the subject of aftermarket support for Desert Tech products, I'm curious about how Desert Tech feels about ES Tactical (who make the 6.5 Creedmoor conversion, and perhaps other conversions in the future). Does Desert Tech approve of them? I wish to have a better picture of that relationship so I can help guide others when they say that they don't want to buy a 6.5 conversion because it's not directly from DT.
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« Reply #65 on: July 11, 2018, 03:19:06 AM »

Sorry guys, been busy.  I will be answering questions by Friday stay tuned.  I appreciate the positive comments about our public release video.
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« Reply #66 on: July 11, 2018, 08:55:31 PM »

Mr. Young can I get your thoughts on the charging handle issue I posted here? Thanks

http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=13194.0
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« Reply #67 on: July 19, 2018, 08:55:30 AM »

Tim from Military Arms Channel mentions in his latest MDR video the 556 kits are out, is that statement true or is he mistaken?

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« Reply #68 on: July 19, 2018, 03:16:25 PM »

Tim from Military Arms Channel mentions in his latest MDR video the 556 kits are out, is that statement true or is he mistaken?

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Dont know where he got that info, but I haven't seen any ship out.
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« Reply #69 on: July 19, 2018, 03:38:07 PM »

Tim from Military Arms Channel mentions in his latest MDR video the 556 kits are out, is that statement true or is he mistaken?

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Dont know where he got that info, but I haven't seen any ship out.

You know it's just like '.308 MDRs shipped Summer 2017'... = not really.  Grin
I'm assuming no reviewers have 5.56 MDRs as of yet?
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« Reply #70 on: July 19, 2018, 04:29:59 PM »

Kind of like Montana Tactical selling black or FDE MDRs in your choice of .308, .223, and .300BLK...  Deceptive at best on their part.
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« Reply #71 on: July 25, 2018, 02:24:15 PM »

1) Is the MDR ever coming to California?  And if so, when?

2) Are you updated about the various gun-neutering laws we now have on the books in CA?  Namely:
- the index finger mag releases have to be bullet-buttoned and the rear mag release has to be disabled.
- the grip has to be redesigned have a fin to prevent the thumb from wrapping around the grip; a same-side thumb shelf rest design would be nice (hint hint)
- the factory muzzle device cannot have any flash reduction features (i.e. muzzle brake only).
- and of course the previous laws still apply like 30" minimum total length
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« Reply #72 on: July 25, 2018, 05:26:10 PM »

1) Is the MDR ever coming to California?  And if so, when?

2) Are you updated about the various gun-neutering laws we now have on the books in CA?  Namely:
- the index finger mag releases have to be bullet-buttoned and the rear mag release has to be disabled.
- the grip has to be redesigned have a fin to prevent the thumb from wrapping around the grip; a same-side thumb shelf rest design would be nice (hint hint)
- the factory muzzle device cannot have any flash reduction features (i.e. muzzle brake only).
- and of course the previous laws still apply like 30" minimum total length

CS Tactical has a kit
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« Reply #73 on: July 27, 2018, 12:08:00 AM »

Guys,
I'm back and gathered up all the questions that have been posted and will be answering them this weekend.  As far as the mud test and drop test videos for those in the military you understand that the MDR performed fantastic in the mud test and passed the drop test even though there were some damage to the MDR in the drop tests it did not inhibit its function so it passed.  Of course we would have preferred to have no damage but it passed non-the-less.
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« Reply #74 on: July 27, 2018, 03:31:38 PM »

...and passed the drop test even though there were some damage to the MDR in the drop tests it did not inhibit its function so it passed.  Of course we would have preferred to have no damage but it passed non-the-less.

i wouldn't call the magwell mag release with a portion of the magwell shattering off along with the grip as passing nick.  LUCKILY, the gun still functioned.  the polymer on my RDB is better than that.  likewise, my fs2000 was unfortunately dropped on concrete from a high rest bench at a local range here and initially appeared the polymer was all scuffed up and scored from the drop...appeared bad and i was disappointed.  got the gun home to get cleaned up and to see how bad and it ended up being the sediment from the concrete, gun was completely clean and scratch free.  lucky?  sure...but no damage was done from the drop.

hopefully, you're sourcing from a vendor that provides better polymers in light of the initial reports here with photos showing the brittle polymer on the MDR along with it being suspect in CBM's youtube vids with the cracked hand guard despite reasons why. 

or, show us the same drop test used on the MDR with competing pups like the x95....and so on.  if the gun performed like an x95, fs2000, tavor, aug...out of box with regard to reliability and durability we'd all need plastic surgery to remove our godd@mn smiles.
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« Reply #75 on: July 27, 2018, 07:53:42 PM »

What?   LMAO   you call that drop test a pass?   Really?
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« Reply #76 on: July 27, 2018, 08:35:17 PM »

A comparison video to other bullpups on the market in similar tests would be nice to see. Even if it was limited to other .308 bullpups on the market, I wonder how their polymer would hold up.
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« Reply #77 on: July 27, 2018, 09:49:40 PM »

Thank you Mr. Young...looking forward to responses to all the questions asked!
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« Reply #78 on: August 01, 2018, 07:44:19 PM »

What?   LMAO   you call that drop test a pass?   Really?

According to military contracting officer then yes it is a 100% pass.  The criteria is that the weapon still functions normally after the drop testing.  It is easy to find the testing criteria online if you doubt what I am telling you.
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« Reply #79 on: August 01, 2018, 08:10:36 PM »

Nick,

Thanks for the Q&A and videos posted.
1) There was mention of a video or instructions on one of your responses concerning reducing the force needed on the mag release.
  a) I would like that info posted
  b) Although after reviewing the mechanics I can only see that happening
      by removing and replacing the spring which if offered would either void
      the warranty or require shipping back to DT.
 
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2)  One item that is highly desired on my part would be that DT work with Houge, Inc to produce a Houge grip for the MDR.


Just for future reference:
- I can't see any standardization on drop tests where "some guy (gal)" drops the object.
- This should be performed by a machine to be a "standard" as carbon based life forms can have a major impact how an object is dropped, guided part of the way, twist the object, etc.
- If the military truly has no "standard machine requirements" on the drop tests, how about becoming a leader in the industry and design a simple device that drops an object consistently every single time so apples can be compared to apples.

Just my $0.02 cents <pre-tax of course>

~Raptor

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