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« on: March 30, 2018, 12:27:45 AM »

Whatever happened to the improved trigger that was mentioned awhile back? Seemed like rapid progress was being made but I've seen nothing since the postings around the time of Shot Show.
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2018, 01:30:45 AM »

Directions in this thread: http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=12549.0
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2018, 07:39:44 AM »


Should be an active link now. (If I did it right.)  Wink

Also try:
https://shootingsight.com/?s=Mdr&post_type=product

That is all.
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2018, 08:04:36 AM »

It is still a work in progress.

Unfortunately, my CS girl moved, and my head machinist found out that due to the market doing really well last year, he could retire early .... so I came home from SHOT with something like 4 full-time projects, and few resources to work them.

I did make fantastic progress up to SHOT, getting a really good prototype.  Based on that, I identified 2 or 3 mods I wanted to make in production.  Those mods are being cut for final testing as we speak. 

DT sent me a rifle for fit/function and eventually drop testing.

I have materials for the first batch cut and squared to go on the CNC.

Net, progress is creeping along, just slower than I wanted.

At the end of the day, prototyping can go relatively fast, both because you are only making a few parts at a time, so the cost of an error is low, and because throwing something on a belt sander a few times until it fits right is an acceptable way to progress the design.  Production batches however require that the final design be properly in CAD, so it fits properly, and the cost of a mistake jumps to tens of thousands of dollars as you make scrap in large quantities.

Best way forward: send me an email at shootingsight@fioptics.com stating your interest in the MDR, and we will email back as soon as it is ready.

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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2018, 10:51:16 AM »

Cool.
Thank you very much for the update.

That is all.
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2018, 06:23:10 PM »

Art,

Is there any new news on the MDR trigger pack?  If so, I'd love to hear about it if you have the time.

Thanks,

Jim
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2018, 10:53:12 PM »

I mean,  delays seem to be the name of the game with the MDR
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2018, 11:03:03 PM »

I mean,  delays seem to be the name of the game with the MDR

I think it is safe to say that delays are the name of the game with anything announced in this industry.  At least the MDR was safe when it was shipped...can't say that about some of Sig's or Remington's recent offerings...
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2018, 11:48:54 AM »

Pretty sad how low the bar is actually....
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2018, 04:13:33 PM »

I mean,  delays seem to be the name of the game with the MDR

I think it is safe to say that delays are the name of the game with anything announced in this industry.  At least the MDR was safe when it was shipped...can't say that about some of Sig's or Remington's recent offerings...

Except very few companies pull the garbage that DT has pulled and survive. In this industry or any other.
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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2018, 04:51:24 PM »

I mean,  delays seem to be the name of the game with the MDR

I think it is safe to say that delays are the name of the game with anything announced in this industry.  At least the MDR was safe when it was shipped...can't say that about some of Sig's or Remington's recent offerings...

Except very few companies pull the garbage that DT has pulled and survive. In this industry or any other.

I give you SigSauer...almost every one of their high profile releases has had issues...and one of them resulted in at least one person being shot because their product failed to work properly and as a result, Sig is being sued for several million dollars.  Yet, people still buy their stuff.

Yes, DT has had issues, but nothing to the level that Sig has had, and had consistently.

InI think part of the cause belongs to the consumer (though I will state that the ultimate blame rests on the manufacturer)...not because we forced them to produce a substandard product or rush it to release, but because even after we've seen their track record go from admirable to mediocre at best, we still buy their products.  So, other than having to eat RMA costs, which is already factored into their budget and the product price, we just don't hold them accountable.  Look at Tim @ MAC...he's bought *THREE* P365s and had issues with at least two of them (he hasn't reported on the third IIRC), that isn't holding them accountable, that's rewarding a company for building a crappy product.  It might not be firearms, but we're all guilty of it at one time or another.
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2018, 11:33:30 PM »

Sig has gone way downhill in quality.
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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2018, 09:43:41 AM »

Sig has gone way downhill in quality.

just turn to cz for quality...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQHzwc_fBFs
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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2018, 11:57:44 AM »

I mean,  delays seem to be the name of the game with the MDR

I think it is safe to say that delays are the name of the game with anything announced in this industry.  At least the MDR was safe when it was shipped...can't say that about some of Sig's or Remington's recent offerings...

Except very few companies pull the garbage that DT has pulled and survive. In this industry or any other.

I give you SigSauer...almost every one of their high profile releases has had issues...and one of them resulted in at least one person being shot because their product failed to work properly and as a result, Sig is being sued for several million dollars.  Yet, people still buy their stuff.

Yes, DT has had issues, but nothing to the level that Sig has had, and had consistently.

InI think part of the cause belongs to the consumer (though I will state that the ultimate blame rests on the manufacturer)...not because we forced them to produce a substandard product or rush it to release, but because even after we've seen their track record go from admirable to mediocre at best, we still buy their products.  So, other than having to eat RMA costs, which is already factored into their budget and the product price, we just don't hold them accountable.  Look at Tim @ MAC...he's bought *THREE* P365s and had issues with at least two of them (he hasn't reported on the third IIRC), that isn't holding them accountable, that's rewarding a company for building a crappy product.  It might not be firearms, but we're all guilty of it at one time or another.
The only reason DT hasn't had issues to the level of Sig is because they aren't really making anything. Given the history, I'm sure we'll see loads of problems with the MDR once they get into a significant number of products manufactured.
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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2018, 08:22:19 PM »

Well, in an attempt to get back on topic, Shootingsights last post on this thread was from March. Has anyone followed up or heard anything?
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