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« on: October 05, 2017, 05:27:45 PM »

What is EXACTLY different between a 16.5" vs 18.5" x95 other than barrel length?

Have not found this answer anywhere.

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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2017, 06:54:27 PM »

Bayo lug.

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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2017, 08:55:52 PM »

What is EXACTLY different between a 16.5" vs 18.5" x95 other than barrel length?

Have not found this answer anywhere.

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There is no such thing as a Tavor with an 18.5" barrel.   Wink (at least in the US)

So, if your question is about a 16.5" and an 18", then the answer is the 18" has a bayonet lug and is 1.5" longer (not 2")... Grin
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2017, 06:29:49 AM »

What is EXACTLY different between a 16.5" vs 18.5" x95 other than barrel length?

Have not found this answer anywhere.

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There is no such thing as a Tavor with an 18.5" barrel.   Wink (at least in the US)

So, if your question is about a 16.5" and an 18", then the answer is the 18" has a bayonet lug and is 1.5" longer (not 2")... Grin


I beg to differ.  

The US assembled, XB18 AND XFD18 models HAVE an 18.5” barrel. The devil is in the details, and one a tape measure.

Your information is incorrect Sir. Pay attention to the specs, or measure one.

https://iwi.us/product/tavor-x95-5-56-nato-w18-barrel/
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2017, 11:28:27 AM »

There is no such thing as a Tavor with an 18.5" barrel.   Wink (at least in the US)

So, if your question is about a 16.5" and an 18", then the answer is the 18" has a bayonet lug and is 1.5" longer (not 2")... Grin
I beg to differ. 

The US assembled, XB18 AND XFD18 models HAVE an 18.5” barrel. The devil is in the details, and one a tape measure.
Well, both of you are correct.

The thing is, there are two Tavors; the SAR and X95. When most people say "Tavor" they really mean the SAR or original version. When you look at the specs for the SAR, the 18" barrel is spec'd as being an actual 18". https://iwi.us/product/tavor-sar-556-w18-barrel/

However, the X95 has an 18.5" barrel: https://iwi.us/product/tavor-x95-5-56-nato-w18-barrel/

I don't know why they made one 1/2" longer than the other, but there it is. It's also possible that the numbers on IWI's website are wrong. We'd have to measure them to be sure.
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2017, 11:33:07 AM »

There is no such thing as a Tavor with an 18.5" barrel.   Wink (at least in the US)

So, if your question is about a 16.5" and an 18", then the answer is the 18" has a bayonet lug and is 1.5" longer (not 2")... Grin
I beg to differ.  

The US assembled, XB18 AND XFD18 models HAVE an 18.5” barrel. The devil is in the details, and one a tape measure.
Well, both of you are correct.

The thing is, there are two Tavors; the SAR and X95. When most people say "Tavor" they really mean the SAR or original version. When you look at the specs for the SAR, the 18" barrel is spec'd as being an actual 18". https://iwi.us/product/tavor-sar-556-w18-barrel/

However, the X95 has an 18.5" barrel: https://iwi.us/product/tavor-x95-5-56-nato-w18-barrel/

I don't know why they made one 1/2" longer than the other, but there it is. It's also possible that the numbers on IWI's website are wrong. We'd have to measure them to be sure.

Thanks Rastoff, I was just about to respond with that same reply.  

Leonitus, my apologies for missing the "X95" in your post, I was in error for contradicting you.  But on the flip side, my statement was accurate; there is no US "Tavor" with an 18.5" barrel.   Wink     (And mine has the 18" barrel, so I'm sure).  Even though IWI lists the X95 as a "Tavor", common usage of the name refers to the SAR, not the X95.
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2017, 02:15:26 PM »

Yep, guess the x95 was lost in translation.

Thanks for the additional information
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2017, 02:51:37 PM »

So what would stop a guy from installing a 18.5” barrel/bolt kit in an x95 that shipped with a 16.5” barrel?
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2017, 09:16:35 AM »

Mechanical aptitude, availability and funds?

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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2017, 09:19:02 AM »

Damn.....I love how you think!

Thanks Brother
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2017, 09:23:10 AM »

I haven't been to IWI's site lately, but maybe the confusion is in regards to a SAR barrel in a X95. I would assume that won't work. I Would love to change my SAR to a 18.whatever" barrel but currently I lack the funds mentioned above.

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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2017, 10:40:27 AM »

Quite possibly.

Im learning that there are more than a few things that can be misconstrued if the details are not clear. The barrel kit clearly states x95, but it does state "This kit can only be used to replace an existing 18.5″ Tavorฎ X95™ barrel."

I kinda think that may be some 922 issue that has driven that statement.
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2017, 11:11:44 AM »

It may because the front of the hand guard needs to be modified to install the 18.5 inch barrel. The front of  the hand guard needs a cross shaped notch cut into for the bayou lug to fit through. You can cut the notch yourself if you like. I think this is why the IWI website also lists the x95 standard hand guard is for the 16.5 inch barrel only.

I don't think it's 922r issue. On the IWI website there is no warning with the opposite change of replacing a 18.5 inch with a 16.5 inch barrel. I think in both cases the barrel and bolt are both made in Israel.
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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2017, 12:17:37 PM »

It may because the front of the hand guard needs to be modified to install the 18.5 inch barrel. The front of  the hand guard needs a cross shaped notch cut into for the bayou lug to fit through. You can cut the notch yourself if you like. I think this is why the IWI website also lists the x95 standard hand guard is for the 16.5 inch barrel only.

I don't think it's 922r issue. On the IWI website there is no warning with the opposite change of replacing a 18.5 inch with a 16.5 inch barrel. I think in both cases the barrel and bolt are both made in Israel.

Smart cookie!

I had not even considered the hand guard getting past the bayonet lug.

Thanks for pointing that out.
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2017, 02:39:37 PM »

Buy the short handguard if that is the case.

Disregard the previous statement I'm a dumbass.

AE
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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2017, 05:13:06 PM »

Never.......memory like an elephant.

Wait, what were we discussing?
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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2017, 08:32:32 AM »

There is no such thing as a Tavor with an 18.5" barrel.   Wink (at least in the US)

So, if your question is about a 16.5" and an 18", then the answer is the 18" has a bayonet lug and is 1.5" longer (not 2")... Grin
I beg to differ.  

The US assembled, XB18 AND XFD18 models HAVE an 18.5” barrel. The devil is in the details, and one a tape measure.
Well, both of you are correct.

The thing is, there are two Tavors; the SAR and X95. When most people say "Tavor" they really mean the SAR or original version. When you look at the specs for the SAR, the 18" barrel is spec'd as being an actual 18". https://iwi.us/product/tavor-sar-556-w18-barrel/

However, the X95 has an 18.5" barrel: https://iwi.us/product/tavor-x95-5-56-nato-w18-barrel/

I don't know why they made one 1/2" longer than the other, but there it is. It's also possible that the numbers on IWI's website are wrong. We'd have to measure them to be sure.


Installed the 18.5” barrel. Seems it’s actually 18 7/8”





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