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« Reply #120 on: April 28, 2016, 08:03:33 PM »

S-N-S,

Don't take that MDR image as gospel or even anything close to what DTs plans are at the moment with regards to calibers.  As late as the GAOS in Harrisburg, the only calibers definitely on the schedule were 5.56/.223, 7.62x51/.308, .300BLK, and 6.5 Creedmore.  They are still debating the fifth caliber they want to release, and it could be 6.5 Grendel, but as of February they weren't sure and it didn't look promising for either of the Soviet era calibers.

That was three months ago, so things may have changed yet again, but the above was straight from DT.
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« Reply #121 on: April 29, 2016, 07:58:16 AM »

For what its worth Kel tec is now making a 6.5 Grendel RDB-C. Mac over at military arms channel has a video of it firing.
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« Reply #122 on: April 29, 2016, 09:57:19 AM »

S-N-S,

Don't take that MDR image as gospel or even anything close to what DTs plans are at the moment with regards to calibers.  As late as the GAOS in Harrisburg, the only calibers definitely on the schedule were 5.56/.223, 7.62x51/.308, .300BLK, and 6.5 Creedmore.  They are still debating the fifth caliber they want to release, and it could be 6.5 Grendel, but as of February they weren't sure and it didn't look promising for either of the Soviet era calibers.

That was three months ago, so things may have changed yet again, but the above was straight from DT.
kfeltenberger, thanks for that encouragement. Thing of it is: Our Bullpup Forum Which caliber do you want this [MDR] in? Poll stated: 6.5mm Grendel, 11.9%; 6.8 SPC, 3.0%.

For what its worth Kel tec is now making a 6.5 Grendel RDB-C. Mac over at military arms channel has a video of it firing.
BullpupT, thanks, I caught that, earlier --- (http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=1060.msg92424#msg92424).

Problem is: Whereas, the free-floating barrel-gas piston layout of the MDR is conducive to sub-MOA accuracy --- a necessity given the long-range capabilities of the 6.5mm Grendel cartridge ---


the non-free-floating barrel-gas-piston layout of the RDB is not conducive to sub-MOA accuracy ---


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« Reply #123 on: April 29, 2016, 11:03:50 AM »

I understand you wanting to wait for the higher accuracy potential of the free floating design. The 6.5 Grendel is an amazing long range cartridge so it makes sense wanting a platform that can get the most out of that cartridge.

I am anxiously awaiting the MDR as well.
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« Reply #124 on: May 12, 2016, 12:54:42 AM »

And, the 6.5mm in the emerging Cased Telescoped technology --- (http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?12083-CT-Ammo-Update&p=132791&viewfull=1#post132791).
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« Reply #125 on: May 12, 2016, 10:12:27 PM »

And, the 6.5mm in the emerging Cased Telescoped technology --- (http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?12083-CT-Ammo-Update&p=132791&viewfull=1#post132791).


Don't hold your breath for that to hit the civilian market any time soon.  The concept is good and looks like it will provide a leap ahead, but I want to see how reliable the rifle is when loading what are essentially straight walled cylinders.
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« Reply #126 on: January 25, 2017, 02:01:40 AM »

Just wanted to bump this thread, as 6.5 Grendel steel case is now down to $0.25 a round.

Any more progress on 6.5 Grendel Pups?

There was the 7.62x39 Steyr AUG at IWA 2016; if they have a working x39 bolt, that could very well be the ticket for getting an AUG in 6.5 Grendel.



 
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« Reply #127 on: January 25, 2017, 03:32:38 AM »

. . . Any more progress on 6.5 Grendel Pups? . . .

To my knowledge, the only firearms manufacturers presently offering the 6.5mm Grendel in an auto-loading Bullbup rifle are K&M Arms, in their M17S, and Kel-Tec, in their RDB.
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« Reply #128 on: January 25, 2017, 12:17:03 PM »

You are mistaken. KM Arms is not presently offering 6.5 Grendel rifles.

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« Reply #129 on: January 25, 2017, 10:34:30 PM »

I'm sorry to hear that. Apparently, this is just one more instance where one's best intentions can go awry, in the gun industry ---




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« Reply #130 on: May 07, 2017, 04:31:22 AM »

. . . There was the 7.62x39 Steyr AUG at IWA 2016; if they have a working x39 bolt, that could very well be the ticket for getting an AUG in 6.5 Grendel.

Or, a Faxon Firearms ARAK-21 in 7.62x39mm, to the 6.5mm Grendel --- (http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?14174-I-want-a-Faxon-Firearms-ARAK-21-in-the-hotshot-7.5mm-Grendel-sooner-than-later!&p=157204&viewfull=1#post1).
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« Reply #131 on: May 20, 2017, 03:54:05 AM »

I understand you wanting to wait for the higher accuracy potential of the free floating design. The 6.5 Grendel is an amazing long range cartridge so it makes sense wanting a platform that can get the most out of that cartridge.

I am anxiously awaiting the MDR as well.

Woe is me! I  really  wanted a lightweight, sub-MOA-capable 6.5mm Grendel-chambered Micro Dynamic Rifle to accompany me on my frequent haunts in the high desert ---


The way we were: January, 2014 ---


To borrow from Ditcher, "DT, do you love me, or not?" (http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=11670.msg120234#msg120234)

I'm now examining other options ---

(David Fortier, on the 12.5" barreled 6.5mm Grendel-chambered AR-15 Pistol)
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« Reply #132 on: June 01, 2017, 08:03:26 AM »

Shorter and lighter than a 10.5"- barreled AR-15 Pistol: The Kel-Tec RDB Survival Bullpup ---



I want one --- chambered for the 6.5mm Grendel, please !


(http://www.rifleshootermag.com/uncategorized/6-5-grendel-evolution/)

Kel-Tec RDB Survival Bullpup (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/01/17/kel-tec-rdb-survival-bullpup-shot-2017/)
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« Reply #133 on: June 12, 2017, 11:01:10 AM »

Woe is me! I  really  wanted a lightweight, sub-MOA-capable 6.5mm Grendel-chambered Micro Dynamic Rifle to accompany me on my frequent haunts in the high desert. . . . I'm now examining other options:

Under the topic, EXTAR EXP-6.5mm Grendel: For serious missions, I yesterday sent an email-appeal to New Frontier Armory President, David Famiglietti:






(https://youtu.be/qUtf-h4S0p8)

My proposed EXTAR EXP-6.5mm Grendel MK2, with 12.5" barrel: About 22" overall length, about 4 lbs. And, with a Shockwave pistol stabilizer attached, about an inch longer than the Desert Tech MDR Standard Model, with 16" barrel.

Picture this MK2, with a 4-inch-longer barrel ---



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« Reply #134 on: September 10, 2017, 04:55:41 AM »

I understand you wanting to wait for the higher accuracy potential of the free floating design. The 6.5 Grendel is an amazing long range cartridge so it makes sense wanting a platform that can get the most out of that cartridge.

I am anxiously awaiting the MDR as well.

Woe is me! I  really  wanted a lightweight, sub-MOA-capable 6.5mm Grendel-chambered Micro Dynamic Rifle to accompany me on my frequent haunts in the high desert ---


The way we were: January, 2014 ---


To borrow from Ditcher, "DT, do you love me, or not?" (http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=11670.msg120234#msg120234)

I'm now examining other options ---

(David Fortier, on the 12.5" barreled 6.5mm Grendel-chambered AR-15 Pistol)


It's nice to know that CMMG recognizes the 6.5mm Grendel's growing popularity ---


The variation that captured my interest is the MkW-15 PSB, 6.5mm Grendel Pistol, with the ATF-approved KAK Shockwave Stabilizer and tube ---



But, what  really  got my attention is the fact that CMMG recognizes the shortcomings of using the AR-15 Bolt for the 6.5mm Grendel cartridge. Rather, they are using their SUPERBOLT for the 6.5mm Grendel (and the 7.62x39mm). The difference is profound ! ---


With an MSRP of $1,749.95, I'm definitely considering it. And, WOLF steel case 6.5mm Grendel ammo is now 22.5 cents/round !
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« Reply #135 on: September 10, 2017, 07:05:48 PM »

With an MSRP of $1,749.95, I'm definitely considering it. And, WOLF steel case 6.5mm Grendel ammo is now 22.5 cents/round

But a 6.5G pistol?  That's sort of like dropping a Corvette engine into a Chevette...you can do it, but it wastes the engine's capabilities.
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« Reply #136 on: September 10, 2017, 08:54:40 PM »

With an MSRP of $1,749.95, I'm definitely considering it. And, WOLF steel case 6.5mm Grendel ammo is now 22.5 cents/round

But a 6.5G pistol?  That's sort of like dropping a Corvette engine into a Chevette...you can do it, but it wastes the engine's capabilities.

Indeed, I would have preferred a 7-pound 6.5mm Grendel Bullpup carbine: (http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?14205-12-5-quot-barreled-6-5mm-Grendel-pistol-The-quot-NuclearOption-quot-that-fits-in-your-backpack&p=158380&viewfull=1#post158380)


(http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?12163-12-5-quot-Barrel-velocities&p=133586&viewfull=1#post133586)
(NOTE: In view of the respective ambient temperatures at the time of the 16" barrel and 12.5" barrel tests, there's probably less than 150 fps difference between the two barrel lengths.)


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« Reply #137 on: July 27, 2018, 05:42:31 AM »

Promises, Promises

It's been nearly six (6) years, since this Thread was started. But, despite what would appear to be good intentions by some arms manufacturers, Bullpup'ers still can't buy a factory-built Bullpup chambered in the can-do 6.5mm Grendel.

The latest:


(http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?17513-Where-s-the-Kel-Tec-RDB-C-6-5mm-Grendel&p=200684&viewfull=1#post200684)
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« Reply #138 on: August 04, 2018, 04:42:20 AM »

On July 23, 2018, I submitted the following email-appeal to Robert Faxon, President, Faxon Firearms, Vice President, Faxon Machining:


On August 2, 2018, I received the following email-reply from Mark, Faxon Firearms Customer Service:


On August 3, 2018, I submitted the following email-reply to Mark, Faxon Firearms Customer Service:









On August 3, 2018, I received the following email-reply from Mark:

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« Reply #139 on: August 19, 2018, 05:19:42 AM »

I today sent the following email to Mark, Customer Service, Faxon Firearms, Inc. and Jarret Mock, President, TorkMag, Inc.:





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