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Title: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pretorian on April 14, 2013, 06:10:16 AM
Post here all the modifications you made , DIY projects, accessories that work with the tavor etc...

I'll start with integrating your tape switch in the tavor hand guard:

1. Pop out the button from the hanguard.

2. Remove enough material from the back of the button so you can squeeze your tape switch behind it.

3. Put the button back and the switch behind it.

4. Done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxukQNGerxo&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxukQNGerxo&feature=youtu.be)


Title: Re: Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts and upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: SEFTACTICAL on April 14, 2013, 07:56:58 AM
Nice... I think that button was designed for something. Now we know what...
 


Title: Re: Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts and upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 14, 2013, 11:02:18 AM
That's a good one Pretorian!

I had a thread about the trigger pack extension spring removal to have a lighter trigger. Link below. My average trigger pull weight is 8lbs 2.5oz according to my digital scale. With the spring in the same pack I got 10lbs 3oz. You can easily see the spring in the two packs in the picture. Stock on the right, spring removed on the left.

http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=2558.0 (http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=2558.0)
(http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r494/Gear_Head_Works/Tavor/utf-8BSU1BRzAyOTguanBn_zps6f54426f.jpg) (http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/Gear_Head_Works/media/Tavor/utf-8BSU1BRzAyOTguanBn_zps6f54426f.jpg.html)

Future products and ideas will be shared here as well. Hopefully this becomes a sticky!



Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: bspooky on April 14, 2013, 03:46:54 PM
What is the purpose of the spring you removed? I doubt IWI put it there just to make the trigger a few pounds heavier.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: HeliPilotPTK on April 14, 2013, 04:35:13 PM
What is the purpose of the spring you removed? I doubt IWI put it there just to make the trigger a few pounds heavier.

The extra spring is to help the trigger reset when it is filled with mud/dirt etc. But it does say you can remove it to make the trigger pull lighter.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: bspooky on April 14, 2013, 05:02:59 PM

The extra spring is to help the trigger reset when it is filled with mud/dirt etc. But it does say you can remove it to make the trigger pull lighter.

Interesting! Thanks for the info!


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: starscream on April 14, 2013, 05:56:59 PM
Gear Head, I removed my spring today and it is a much better trigger pull!! Thank  you for suggesting it!


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: judochop on April 14, 2013, 09:30:41 PM
Yes! Thank you for sharing that tidbit. The trigger is much better.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: RonS-Glock on April 15, 2013, 12:11:42 PM
Post here all the modifications you made , DIY projects, accessories that work with the tavor etc...

I'll start with integrating your tape switch in the tavor hand guard:

1. Pop out the button from the hanguard.

2. Remove enough material from the back of the button so you can squeeze your tape switch behind it.

3. Put the button back and the switch behind it.

4. Done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxukQNGerxo&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxukQNGerxo&feature=youtu.be)

Just saw we now have our upgrade/new accessory sticky area - GREAT
How did you route the wire out to the light?  Did you put any protective heat sheath on it like discussed in other threads?  Can you add a picture of your finished light setup?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pretorian on April 16, 2013, 04:58:53 AM
Post here all the modifications you made , DIY projects, accessories that work with the tavor etc...

I'll start with integrating your tape switch in the tavor hand guard:

1. Pop out the button from the hanguard.

2. Remove enough material from the back of the button so you can squeeze your tape switch behind it.

3. Put the button back and the switch behind it.

4. Done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxukQNGerxo&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxukQNGerxo&feature=youtu.be)

Just saw we now have our upgrade/new accessory sticky area - GREAT
How did you route the wire out to the light?  Did you put any protective heat sheath on it like discussed in other threads?  Can you add a picture of your finished light setup?

The wire routes out via the upper hanguard.
See post here http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=2570.0 (http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=2570.0) post #9.

I did not put a thermal sleeve on it because I just built it for this forum.You should use one.
I can put a tavor together with it and take pictures if you want...


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Lu-Wa on April 16, 2013, 06:43:58 PM
Been thinking about an integral suppressor (or, as much of one as you can get on a Tavor) and came up with this. Only 6 1/4 in long, with about 3 1/8 in OAL added. It sounds great with standard velocity ammo, and when using light loads it is insanely quiet. Not going to make any dB claims without a real meter though. Enjoy!




Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: PapaJoeTx on April 16, 2013, 07:57:08 PM
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Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: RonS-Glock on April 16, 2013, 10:56:13 PM
Post here all the modifications you made , DIY projects, accessories that work with the tavor etc...

I'll start with integrating your tape switch in the tavor hand guard:

1. Pop out the button from the hanguard.

2. Remove enough material from the back of the button so you can squeeze your tape switch behind it.

3. Put the button back and the switch behind it.

4. Done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxukQNGerxo&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxukQNGerxo&feature=youtu.be)

Just saw we now have our upgrade/new accessory sticky area - GREAT
How did you route the wire out to the light?  Did you put any protective heat sheath on it like discussed in other threads?  Can you add a picture of your finished light setup?

The wire routes out via the upper hanguard.
See post here http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=

2570.0 (http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=2570.0) post #9.

I did not put a thermal sleeve on it because I just built it for this forum.You should use one.
I can put a tavor together with it and take pictures if you want...

Any help would be great.  If possible sleeve material/brand would be nice.  You have knowledge many of us desire to learn - thanks

Don't know if it matters I have the full rail version not the IDF model.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pretorian on April 17, 2013, 03:29:15 AM
Post here all the modifications you made , DIY projects, accessories that work with the tavor etc...

I'll start with integrating your tape switch in the tavor hand guard:

1. Pop out the button from the hanguard.

2. Remove enough material from the back of the button so you can squeeze your tape switch behind it.

3. Put the button back and the switch behind it.

4. Done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxukQNGerxo&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxukQNGerxo&feature=youtu.be)

Just saw we now have our upgrade/new accessory sticky area - GREAT
How did you route the wire out to the light?  Did you put any protective heat sheath on it like discussed in other threads?  Can you add a picture of your finished light setup?

The wire routes out via the upper hanguard.
See post here http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=

2570.0 (http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=2570.0) post #9.

I did not put a thermal sleeve on it because I just built it for this forum.You should use one.
I can put a tavor together with it and take pictures if you want...

Any help would be great.  If possible sleeve material/brand would be nice.  You have knowledge many of us desire to learn - thanks
Here is one link posted at the MOR thread by boatswain
http://www.cableorganizer.com/nomex/ (http://www.cableorganizer.com/nomex/)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pretorian on April 17, 2013, 03:32:31 AM
Quote
Don't know if it matters I have the full rail version not the IDF model.

No problem, just run the cable under the rail from the side...


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pretorian on April 17, 2013, 03:44:29 AM
Code:
Can you add a picture of your finished light setup?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pretorian on April 17, 2013, 03:47:12 AM
Some more... This setup is the closest I can get to 12'oclock light using the existing rail and not interfering with the front sight.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pretorian on April 17, 2013, 10:07:53 AM
Been thinking about an integral (or, as much of one as you can get on a Tavor) and came up with this. Only 6 1/4 in long, with about 3 1/8 in OAL added. Thing sounds perfect, and with medium load rounds its insanely quiet. I don't trust my dB reader all that much, but if it is telling the truth then this thing is fantastic. Also, I only loaded medium res pictures because last time, the ones I loaded were huge. Let me know if you want some more!


(https://photos-6.dropbox.com/t/0/AAB3mhAtk1xpXeyhxvRokbWaVv_qQ6X0E-9l-weIGac31Q/12/34162558/jpeg/32x32/3/_/1/2/DSC_0001.JPG/CqZ1LykEZn30Ejva6XgujL8ar1dIDUxacKUrWu4RW_8?size=1280x960)

(https://photos-4.dropbox.com/t/0/AABSq4NSvCws1LvvAi-twxovUcNF33jEDsZDP4O5ybV4Bg/12/34162558/jpeg/32x32/3/_/1/2/DSC_0002.JPG/5P2KbC-vj8IgrBNXc76t3XJsAzFAF5t9i2YzNe3UQC8?size=1280x960)

(https://photos-4.dropbox.com/t/0/AADW5lGStrNXRyXs6tapTPFb5y4mCQr9WnBcw4RJsy4jWQ/12/34162558/jpeg/32x32/3/_/1/2/DSC_0003.JPG/FH1FV4yAwpgpnbHa3_OuIEJxmClnp1hyyF1vueHHE8A?size=1280x960)
First one!

Integral what? ... suppressor ? Can't see anything... Read max size for uploading attachments... You can resize and then attach.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: mission critical on April 17, 2013, 02:00:34 PM
Is anyone working on a 45-degree ambi safety selector switch?

Or is that just not possible, given the SAR's internal components?

Regards,
MC


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: HawgSuper on April 17, 2013, 02:20:15 PM
Is anyone working on a 45-degree ambi safety selector switch?

Or is that just not possible, given the SAR's internal components?

Regards,
MC

Check out this thread

http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=2734.0 (http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=2734.0)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: RonS-Glock on April 17, 2013, 03:20:55 PM
Code:
Can you add a picture of your finished light setup?

Can you push/activate your tape switch located under the rail cover?   Looks kind of like a magpul rail cover


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pretorian on April 17, 2013, 03:54:13 PM
There is no tape switch under the rail cover. The tape switch is inside the hanguard behind the modified button as I posted in the first post of this thread.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Lu-Wa on April 17, 2013, 08:03:58 PM
Been thinking about an integral (or, as much of one as you can get on a Tavor) and came up with this. Only 6 1/4 in long, with about 3 1/8 in OAL added. Thing sounds perfect, and with medium load rounds its insanely quiet. I don't trust my dB reader all that much, but if it is telling the truth then this thing is fantastic. Also, I only loaded medium res pictures because last time, the ones I loaded were huge. Let me know if you want some more!



Integral what? ... suppressor ? Can't see anything... Read max size for uploading attachments... You can resize and then attach.

Fixed!


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 17, 2013, 09:17:46 PM
Been thinking about an integral (or, as much of one as you can get on a Tavor) and came up with this. Only 6 1/4 in long, with about 3 1/8 in OAL added. Thing sounds perfect, and with medium load rounds its insanely quiet. I don't trust my dB reader all that much, but if it is telling the truth then this thing is fantastic. Also, I only loaded medium res pictures because last time, the ones I loaded were huge. Let me know if you want some more!



Integral what? ... suppressor ? Can't see anything... Read max size for uploading attachments... You can resize and then attach.

Nice. How does it run? Is it over gassed at all?

Fixed!


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Lu-Wa on April 17, 2013, 09:43:31 PM
I haven't shot a whole lot through it yet (still waiting on a scope), but from what I have run through it, it isn't over gassed and it cycles just fine. It also hasn't had any issues with the handloads I've run through it.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 17, 2013, 09:56:15 PM
I haven't shot a whole lot through it yet (still waiting on a scope), but from what I have run through it, it isn't over gassed and it cycles just fine. It also hasn't had any issues with the handloads I've run through it.

Did you use the factory barrel and gas block or do something custom?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pretorian on April 18, 2013, 01:03:35 AM
Been thinking about an integral suppressor (or, as much of one as you can get on a Tavor) and came up with this. Only 6 1/4 in long, with about 3 1/8 in OAL added. It sounds great with standard velocity ammo, and when using light loads it is insanely quiet. Not going to make any dB claims without a real meter though. Enjoy!




Very nice .Some questions:
So there is a 16.5 inch barrel under that beauty?
Weight?
Suppressor diameter?
What do you use to measure Db?
Have you tried subsonic ammo with it?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Lu-Wa on April 18, 2013, 01:27:38 AM
I haven't shot a whole lot through it yet (still waiting on a scope), but from what I have run through it, it isn't over gassed and it cycles just fine. It also hasn't had any issues with the handloads I've run through it.

Did you use the factory barrel and gas block or do something custom?

Factory barrel and block.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Lu-Wa on April 18, 2013, 01:42:57 AM
Been thinking about an integral suppressor (or, as much of one as you can get on a Tavor) and came up with this. Only 6 1/4 in long, with about 3 1/8 in OAL added. It sounds great with standard velocity ammo, and when using light loads it is insanely quiet. Not going to make any dB claims without a real meter though. Enjoy!




Very nice .Some questions:
So there is a 16.5 inch barrel under that beauty?
Weight?
Suppressor diameter?
What do you use to measure Db?
Have you tried subsonic ammo with it?


Yes, it just slips over the barrel and has threads near the center.

Unfortunately, I don't have a scale that will weigh it correctly at the moment.

OD is 1.94" at the threads and after. OD is 1.98" prior to the threads.

I have an AR824 from digital instruments. I have no way of verifying the quality of the reader though, so I take the readings with a grain of salt. I just ran a few through it to see how it worked. I'll do some formal testing tomorrow and post the results.

I haven't tried true subsonic ammo, but I shot some nearly subsonic ammo and ear pro became an afterthought.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 18, 2013, 09:56:36 AM
Well Lu-Wa definitely has my interest. I look forward to more details if you're willing to share them.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: genStrat on April 18, 2013, 10:05:21 AM
Been thinking about an integral suppressor (or, as much of one as you can get on a Tavor) and came up with this. Only 6 1/4 in long, with about 3 1/8 in OAL added. It sounds great with standard velocity ammo, and when using light loads it is insanely quiet. Not going to make any dB claims without a real meter though. Enjoy!

Its the first one I have seen I would be interested in pursuing. If its as good as it sounds (forgive the pun), then the footprint makes it a must have.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Lu-Wa on April 18, 2013, 05:01:09 PM
Been thinking about an integral suppressor (or, as much of one as you can get on a Tavor) and came up with this. Only 6 1/4 in long, with about 3 1/8 in OAL added. It sounds great with standard velocity ammo, and when using light loads it is insanely quiet. Not going to make any dB claims without a real meter though. Enjoy!

Its the first one I have seen I would be interested in pursuing. If its as good as it sounds (forgive the pun), then the footprint makes it a must have.

I've come to the conclusion that my dB reader (borrowed, thankfully) isn't suited for this type of testing. I'm going to try and procure one here in the next few days that is up to the task and get some hard data for you guys. Thanks for the interest, I'll be sure to keep you posted.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: TruBrew on April 18, 2013, 07:33:48 PM
Lu-Wa, did you drill holes in the barrel? You call it the closest to integral as you could do, so I was curious if your gun still functions normally without the suppressor or not. I live in the same state as you, but unfortunately not very close, as I would love to check it out. Definitely keep us up to date when you get the chance to test it more.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pretorian on April 19, 2013, 03:34:02 AM
Been thinking about an integral suppressor (or, as much of one as you can get on a Tavor) and came up with this. Only 6 1/4 in long, with about 3 1/8 in OAL added. It sounds great with standard velocity ammo, and when using light loads it is insanely quiet. Not going to make any dB claims without a real meter though. Enjoy!




Very nice .Some questions:
So there is a 16.5 inch barrel under that beauty?
Weight?
Suppressor diameter?
What do you use to measure Db?
Have you tried subsonic ammo with it?


Yes, it just slips over the barrel and has threads near the center.

Unfortunately, I don't have a scale that will weigh it correctly at the moment.

OD is 1.94" at the threads and after. OD is 1.98" prior to the threads.

I have an AR824 from digital instruments. I have no way of verifying the quality of the reader though, so I take the readings with a grain of salt. I just ran a few through it to see how it worked. I'll do some formal testing tomorrow and post the results.

I haven't tried true subsonic ammo, but I shot some nearly subsonic ammo and ear pro became an afterthought.

I just measured the interior space in an x95 handguard.
Sounds like your suppressor and the standard 13 inch barrel would make a very compact setup.
Using a 10 inch barrel, one could barely see the suppressor ...
Hmmmmm. Do you handle exports/imports?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: richm2004 on April 19, 2013, 10:56:39 AM
Yes, it just slips over the barrel and has threads near the center.

Unfortunately, I don't have a scale that will weigh it correctly at the moment.

OD is 1.94" at the threads and after. OD is 1.98" prior to the threads.

I have an AR824 from digital instruments. I have no way of verifying the quality of the reader though, so I take the readings with a grain of salt. I just ran a few through it to see how it worked. I'll do some formal testing tomorrow and post the results.

I haven't tried true subsonic ammo, but I shot some nearly subsonic ammo and ear pro became an afterthought.

NICE!!  Is that a take apart can?  Stainless internals?  When will those cans be available on Form 3's?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: genStrat on April 19, 2013, 11:07:30 AM
Been thinking about an integral suppressor (or, as much of one as you can get on a Tavor) and came up with this. Only 6 1/4 in long, with about 3 1/8 in OAL added. It sounds great with standard velocity ammo, and when using light loads it is insanely quiet. Not going to make any dB claims without a real meter though. Enjoy!

Not to get ahead of the game, but what about something similar in 9mm for the conversion kit?
I would have interest in both (5.56 and 9mm.)


Title: Re: Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts and upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: judochop on April 20, 2013, 03:33:03 PM
That's a good one Pretorian!

I had a thread about the trigger pack extension spring removal to have a lighter trigger. Link below. My average trigger pull weight is 8lbs 2.5oz according to my digital scale. With the spring in the same pack I got 10lbs 3oz. You can easily see the spring in the two packs in the picture. Stock on the right, spring removed on the left.

http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=2558.0 (http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=2558.0)
(http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r494/Gear_Head_Works/Tavor/utf-8BSU1BRzAyOTguanBn_zps6f54426f.jpg) (http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/Gear_Head_Works/media/Tavor/utf-8BSU1BRzAyOTguanBn_zps6f54426f.jpg.html)

Future products and ideas will be shared here as well. Hopefully this becomes a sticky!



Today at the range my trigger didn't fully reset several times without the additional spring, It helps the trigger pull by not having it in there but at a cost of reliability. I dont want to worry about trigger reset, so I put the spring back in. Its in there for a reason. Im going to recommend anyone thinking of trying this to not do it.


Title: Re: Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts and upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 20, 2013, 11:46:47 PM
That's a good one Pretorian!

I had a thread about the trigger pack extension spring removal to have a lighter trigger. Link below. My average trigger pull weight is 8lbs 2.5oz according to my digital scale. With the spring in the same pack I got 10lbs 3oz. You can easily see the spring in the two packs in the picture. Stock on the right, spring removed on the left.



Future products and ideas will be shared here as well. Hopefully this becomes a sticky!



Today at the range my trigger didn't fully reset several times without the additional spring, It helps the trigger pull by not having it in there but at a cost of reliability. I dont want to worry about trigger reset, so I put the spring back in. Its in there for a reason. Im going to recommend anyone thinking of trying this to not do it.

Were you shooting suppressed from a bench? The extra crud that gets blown back into the gun when suppressed can add friction in the trigger pack. Also I noticed that when shooting from a rest that the gun doesn't really move much. That extra vibration from shooting off hand helps keep things working right. I had my gun double today from a bench. M1A's were famous for not working right off a bench.

I had put my spring back in to measure the pull difference but will take it back out again before shooting tomorrow and I won't clean my gun to try it.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: judochop on April 21, 2013, 06:24:46 PM
Yes but Gear Head, I wouldnt feel comfortable with a newly cleaned combat rifle that doesn't function properly just bench rest shooting. I hear what you're saying with the recoil helping the reset from "other than" bench shooting, but, If the trigger wont reset 100% of the time with out the spring in a controlled clean firing environment, my confidence would be greatly effected in using it. I haven't experienced the "reset Freeze" with the spring installed.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: racky on April 21, 2013, 08:24:13 PM
Gearhead, I'm taking my Tavor out shooting next week, so my shooting buds & I can get some hands on experence with it , After that I'm curious to try out your suggestion of removing that little itty-bitty return spring, My question for you is what size DRIFT-PIN did you use????, thanks in advance..


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 21, 2013, 09:03:17 PM
The pin can be pushed by hand with a punch or allen wrench. You don't even need a hammer. It's smaller than 1/8", I think I used a 3/32 allen wrench.

I shot mine some more today without the extra spring and had no issues. I am intentionally not cleaning the trigger pack to see how long it lasts before I see failures to reset. Maybe some guns are just a little bit different and don't work as well witout the spring. I was shooing with 2 other Tavor owners today and we removed the spring in one of their guns at the range and they loved the improvement and had no issues.

At least it is easy enough and free to try it. You can always go back.


Title: Re: Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts and upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Rick53 on April 21, 2013, 10:40:06 PM
That's a good one Pretorian!

I had a thread about the trigger pack extension spring removal to have a lighter trigger. Link below. My average trigger pull weight is 8lbs 2.5oz according to my digital scale. With the spring in the same pack I got 10lbs 3oz. You can easily see the spring in the two packs in the picture. Stock on the right, spring removed on the left.

http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=2558.0 (http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=2558.0)
(http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r494/Gear_Head_Works/Tavor/utf-8BSU1BRzAyOTguanBn_zps6f54426f.jpg) (http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/Gear_Head_Works/media/Tavor/utf-8BSU1BRzAyOTguanBn_zps6f54426f.jpg.html)

Future products and ideas will be shared here as well. Hopefully this becomes a sticky!


So could a lighter spring be used? Or isn't that an Option?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 21, 2013, 10:59:40 PM
Of course a lighter sring could be used to bridge the gap between the two free options (spring or no spring) but someone would have to calculate the current spring rate and order one that was lighter. I use Lee Spring for many spring applications. They have spring engineers that can help you pick something too. The problem is that you have to buy a minimum quantity.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: PapaJoeTx on April 22, 2013, 07:57:41 PM
ive used Ace hardware!  ;)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: PapaJoeTx on April 23, 2013, 09:16:35 AM
What about a quadrail similar to the one in the picture?

 It may only work on the 18s though...


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 23, 2013, 09:27:55 AM
PapaJoeTx,

Keep an eye out. There just may be something announced in the coming weeks.  ;)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: richm2004 on April 24, 2013, 07:41:42 AM
PapaJoeTx,

Keep an eye out. There just may be something announced in the coming weeks.  ;)

NICE...that would give a nice place to put a rail mounted tape switch!


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 24, 2013, 09:09:19 AM
PapaJoeTx,

Keep an eye out. There just may be something announced in the coming weeks.  ;)

NICE...that would give a nice place to put a rail mounted tape switch!

I have already worked that into the design.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: richm2004 on April 24, 2013, 12:08:29 PM
PapaJoeTx,

Keep an eye out. There just may be something announced in the coming weeks.  ;)

NICE...that would give a nice place to put a rail mounted tape switch!

I have already worked that into the design.

Make sure you match the Tavor's FDE color ;)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 24, 2013, 12:51:14 PM
PapaJoeTx,

Keep an eye out. There just may be something announced in the coming weeks.  ;)

NICE...that would give a nice place to put a rail mounted tape switch!

I have already worked that into the design.

Make sure you match the Tavor's FDE color ;)

That is something I haven't addressed yet but will. Have to have parts before I can finish them.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: joel on April 24, 2013, 08:25:24 PM
okay. The free floating barrel mod I heard mentioned... who knows how to do it or what parts I should look at?

Pretorian? Gear Head? Any ideas? I know the charging handle is a part of the problem?

Or maybe I should just wait for an x95 US version?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 24, 2013, 10:29:34 PM
I modded mine but haven't had a chance to test it yet so I wasn't going to post it. But since you asked...

If you look in the front of your gun (don't be stupid and unload it first!) above the barrel just inside the upper handguard is an upside down "U" shaped piece. Your forearm screws thread into it on both sides. There is yet another "U" inside of that part that is held in with a roll pin that you can see as well. I pulled that whole thing out of mine, knocked the roll pin out and slide the inside part out of the main part. When it's all put back together nothing touches the barrel. At least nothing related to that part. The charging handle I don't think really effects the barrel when it is in it's locked forward position.

Removing that "inside U" did two things for me. One as I mentioned removed pressure on the barrel from the forend. The other is it doesn't let heat transfer to the handguard screws directly anymore. Those little things can get hot and let you know when you touch them! After I removed that I could push against the forearm and pull agianst the barrel and make the forearm flex over. So I know that it could have been applying pressure to the barrel. During normal handling I don't expect that little bit of play to be any kind of issue at all.

Like I said though, I haven't been able to shoot a group to see if accuracy has improved. I'm still searching for an answer to that problem. I will check the muzzle crown after I test this mod. I don't want to try 2 things at once.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: buddybaja on April 24, 2013, 11:38:25 PM
Yes those screws get WARM lol. Whats wrong with accuracy?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pretorian on April 25, 2013, 02:28:52 AM
The charging handle I don't think really effects the barrel when it is in it's locked forward position.
The handguard touches the charging handle assembly=>The charging handle assembly toches the barrel =The handguard touches the barrel.
I'll take pictures later and post modded charging handle assembly that does not touch the barrel.
This step is needed, in addition to what you have allready done, to truely free float the handguard.
You will also need locking nuts for the handguard screws if you will remove the both  "U"s.

Edit: Pictures Attached.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 25, 2013, 09:05:07 AM
Pretorian,

I haven't looked real closely but when the handle is in it's full forward position locked does the end of that "finger" still touch that barrel band thing?

Also, I only removed the insert to that U shaped part that has the threaded holes so I don't need additional nuts.

I see what was done to the charging handle so that it doesn't use that barrel band at all. Seems simple enough. Now if I only knew somebody that makes charging handles...  :chin


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pretorian on April 25, 2013, 10:12:18 AM
Quote
I haven't looked real closely but when the handle is in it's full forward position locked does the end of that "finger" still touch that barrel band thing?
It does...
Quote
Now if I only knew somebody that makes charging handles...  chin scratching
;D ;D ;D
While at it you, could build a free  floating hand guard that has charging handles on both sides and replaces both top and bottom original hand guards.

Let me know if you are interested , I have a design in mind...


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: genStrat on April 25, 2013, 10:16:51 AM
Any chance of getting a video for this process? (when appropriate, pretorian)

It would also be nice to understand the risk/benefit of the change. I know its in process, but as more is known please (pretty please) share.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 25, 2013, 10:39:02 AM
I had already thought about a replacement upper that would put the handle straight out instead of angled up but not had time to look into it. Too busy working on my lower handguard. I'll email you and see if I can incorporate your designed upper into my lower or something. Call it the Pretorian-Head or Gearian design lol!

Don't worry genStrat, this board is where I post what I know. Nowhere else. I just don't want to post until I have answers to questions that I'm sure will be asked.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pretorian on April 25, 2013, 10:46:29 AM
Any chance of getting a video for this process?

It would also be nice to understand the risk/benefit of the change. I know its in process, but as more is known please (pretty please) share.

There is no risk. Totally reversible. You remove the sight stabilizer( "U"), and use an old style charging handle.
Benefit: free floated hand guard.
Risk: Some stuck cases that you can clear with  new style charging handle, you might have to "mortar" with the old style charging handle.
I will gladly make a video, but I see no point before anyone has the needed parts(GearHead, SEF,etc.. Are you listening?  ;)) to make the conversion.



Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 25, 2013, 10:48:33 AM
The charging handle I don't think really effects the barrel when it is in it's locked forward position.
The handguard touches the charging handle assembly=>The charging handle assembly toches the barrel =The handguard touches the barrel.
I'll take pictures later and post modded charging handle assembly that does not touch the barrel.
This step is needed, in addition to what you have allready done, to truely free float the handguard.
You will also need locking nuts for the handguard screws if you will remove the both  "U"s.

Edit: Pictures Attached.


I bet this could be a fairly easy DIY project now that I've thought about it. The barrel comes out easily enough. I could simply remove the barrel band the charging handle pushed against and pin the charging handle so it doesn't pivot anymore. Then you could remove the flat spring that's under it that locks it forward since now the bolt carrier would be what is holding it forward.

You would be saving weight as a bonus!


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pretorian on April 25, 2013, 10:58:32 AM
Bingo!


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 25, 2013, 11:16:20 AM
Ok I will have to try this and take pictures. Already did the "U" thing.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: genStrat on April 25, 2013, 11:17:11 AM
Ok I will have to try this and take pictures. Already did the "U" thing.

Lots of pictures and notes for us knuckleheads.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pretorian on April 25, 2013, 12:41:24 PM
Ok I will have to try this and take pictures. Already did the "U" thing.

Lots of pictures and notes for us knuckleheads.
I have 4622 tavor pictures ... you want them all? >:D



Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: genStrat on April 25, 2013, 12:48:05 PM
I have 4622 tavor pictures ... you want them all? >:D

Only those that are appropriate along with those that have local color, flora and fauna...


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 25, 2013, 01:05:30 PM
I have 4622 tavor pictures ... you want them all? >:D

Only those that are appropriate along with those that have local color, flora and fauna...

Or any with hot women in them!


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: genStrat on April 25, 2013, 01:14:25 PM
Or any with hot women in them!

Didn't I say that?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 25, 2013, 01:48:56 PM
Or any with hot women in them!

Didn't I say that?

You did but more eloquently. I'm a little rougher around the edges...


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Lu-Wa on April 25, 2013, 04:02:21 PM
Lu-Wa, did you drill holes in the barrel? You call it the closest to integral as you could do, so I was curious if your gun still functions normally without the suppressor or not. I live in the same state as you, but unfortunately not very close, as I would love to check it out. Definitely keep us up to date when you get the chance to test it more.

No holes drilled, so everything is good to go if you want to remove it.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Lu-Wa on April 25, 2013, 04:08:01 PM
Been thinking about an integral suppressor (or, as much of one as you can get on a Tavor) and came up with this. Only 6 1/4 in long, with about 3 1/8 in OAL added. It sounds great with standard velocity ammo, and when using light loads it is insanely quiet. Not going to make any dB claims without a real meter though. Enjoy!

Not to get ahead of the game, but what about something similar in 9mm for the conversion kit?
I would have interest in both (5.56 and 9mm.)

I'd have to get a hold of a 9mm conversion kit to test it, but making a 9mm version wouldn't be very difficult at all. I would just have to see what the demand for one would be, but it is definitely an option.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: genStrat on April 25, 2013, 04:16:12 PM
I'd have to get a hold of a 9mm conversion kit to test it, but making a 9mm version wouldn't be very difficult at all. I would just have to see what the demand for one would be, but it is definitely an option.

What's the schedule for release? (5.56)
How long would it take to get the 9mm done from the time you get a conversion kit?

You might notice, there is some interest.
I like the size...small.
A video might lend an idea as to the functional aspects.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: richm2004 on April 25, 2013, 04:43:57 PM
Lu-Wa, did you drill holes in the barrel? You call it the closest to integral as you could do, so I was curious if your gun still functions normally without the suppressor or not. I live in the same state as you, but unfortunately not very close, as I would love to check it out. Definitely keep us up to date when you get the chance to test it more.

No holes drilled, so everything is good to go if you want to remove it.

Is it a take apart can?  Monocore?  SS or Aluminum baffles?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 25, 2013, 04:58:34 PM
I have bought suppressors that were not as quiet as others just because they were all stainless and take apart.

Just sayin'


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: richm2004 on April 25, 2013, 05:16:17 PM
I dont think Aluminum would be a good choice for 556/223 so more than likely its steel.  One could size the suppressor bore for 9mm...that way its multi use....just not optimized for 223/556 use.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 25, 2013, 05:35:59 PM
Definitely not. I was thinking of the 9mm version.

A take apart can for 556 would be a challenge but it's been done. It needs to be stainless or inconel.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: joel on April 26, 2013, 09:19:14 PM
just wanted to say thanks a ton, Gear Head and Pretorian. I'm not having any issues with the mechanics, and a few pictures is all I need, but if you think this is the kind of stuff that needs a gun smith, say so. I wouldn't know better on that account. I nearly took a dremel to a sear until I read not to do so on here. ;-)

Altogether, this sounds like the most awesome platform... the trigger mods are encouraging (even despite some issues with resets noted), and now freeing up the barrel doesn't sound as bad as I feared too.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 28, 2013, 12:22:31 AM
just wanted to say thanks a ton, Gear Head and Pretorian. I'm not having any issues with the mechanics, and a few pictures is all I need, but if you think this is the kind of stuff that needs a gun smith, say so. I wouldn't know better on that account. I nearly took a dremel to a sear until I read not to do so on here. ;-)

Altogether, this sounds like the most awesome platform... the trigger mods are encouraging (even despite some issues with resets noted), and now freeing up the barrel doesn't sound as bad as I feared too.

Don't butcher your trigger parts with a dremel! I'm studying the trigger pack when I get time and Pretorian is a wealth of knowledge. As soon as there is a DIY trigger job it will posted here.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Lu-Wa on April 28, 2013, 01:38:05 AM
Update on the suppressor.

The prototype was made with aluminum and SS, I forget the grades. The production model will be Titanium (grade 5 for the tubing and 7 for the end caps) throughout, except the baffles which would be stainless. Now, I can do Inconel, but of course the price would reflect the cost that Inconel mandates. I might try to do some work with Inconel and offer two versions: one with SS and the other with Inconel.

As far as ETA until it is ready for sale. We are in the process of getting quotes on Titanium from one of the local guys that CNCs our lowers, and once we figure out how much it's going to run, then we can start getting a batch manufactured. Once we get the Ti versions done, I can post up the new weights and a price quote.

Also, I think I've got a good dB reader tracked down. Once I can get my hands on that, I'll be able to post up the performance for you guys. Depending on how well it stacks up on paper, changes may be made to achieve better numbers if it is necessary, but I'm fairly confident that it will hold up.

I'm trying to think of anything else, but I think that is where we are at the moment. Thanks for all the questions guys. If you have anything else you want to know, post it up here or PM and I'll get back to you.

EDIT: I saw someone asked about a video. I can upload one if you guys would like. Of course a video can't really convey how well it performs, but I can get one up so everyone can check it out.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: richm2004 on April 28, 2013, 10:41:31 AM
Will it be take apart and is the baffle mono core?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 28, 2013, 10:48:50 AM
Update on the suppressor.

The prototype was made with aluminum and SS, I forget the grades. The production model will be Titanium (grade 5 for the tubing and 7 for the end caps) throughout, except the baffles which would be stainless. Now, I can do Inconel, but of course the price would reflect the cost that Inconel mandates. I might try to do some work with Inconel and offer two versions: one with SS and the other with Inconel.

As far as ETA until it is ready for sale. We are in the process of getting quotes on Titanium from one of the local guys that CNCs our lowers, and once we figure out how much it's going to run, then we can start getting a batch manufactured. Once we get the Ti versions done, I can post up the new weights and a price quote.

Also, I think I've got a good dB reader tracked down. Once I can get my hands on that, I'll be able to post up the performance for you guys. Depending on how well it stacks up on paper, changes may be made to achieve better numbers if it is necessary, but I'm fairly confident that it will hold up.

I'm trying to think of anything else, but I think that is where we are at the moment. Thanks for all the questions guys. If you have anything else you want to know, post it up here or PM and I'll get back to you.

EDIT: I saw someone asked about a video. I can upload one if you guys would like. Of course a video can't really convey how well it performs, but I can get one up so everyone can check it out.

You may want to research using titanium for suppressor construction some more. While it is a nice material is doesn't do well with the heat like stainless or inconel does. There are very vew titanium suppresors out there for a reason. Most of the ones that are out there are designed for bolt action guns where the rate of fire is slow.

There is excellent suppressor discussion over on silencertalk.com. Many industry professionals hang out there as well. There is a whole section for making your own and silencer design.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: HybridKid on April 28, 2013, 02:16:06 PM
It maybe that there are fewer titanium suppressors because of the cost, same as inconel versus stainless for the baffles.  Baffles, the preference because of durability resides with the inconel over stainless.  You can of course use a stainless with a higher content of inconel to help with the cost. 
I am no means an expert in any way, just commenting based on the metal technology only, as suppressors are a whole different ballgame with the chemicals, temperatures and stress unique to them. 


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: crazymjb on April 29, 2013, 03:16:26 PM
Though I'm yet to receive my Tavor, I've heard some complaints that the front handguard get's uncomfortably hot after a lot of successive firing.

I wanted to know what you guys thought of putting something like this in the front handguard:

http://www.amazon.com/Thermo-Tec-13500-Adhesive-Backed-Barrier/dp/B00029KC2A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1367262947&sr=8-2&keywords=adhesive+backed+thermo

Mike


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: genStrat on April 29, 2013, 03:22:46 PM
Though I'm yet to receive my Tavor, I've heard some complaints that the front handguard get's uncomfortably hot after a lot of successive firing.

I wanted to know what you guys thought of putting something like this in the front handguard:

http://www.amazon.com/Thermo-Tec-13500-Adhesive-Backed-Barrier/dp/B00029KC2A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1367262947&sr=8-2&keywords=adhesive+backed+thermo (http://www.amazon.com/Thermo-Tec-13500-Adhesive-Backed-Barrier/dp/B00029KC2A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1367262947&sr=8-2&keywords=adhesive+backed+thermo)

I would think having the heat dissipate would be a good thing.
This would tend to focus it back on the barrel and other parts., would it not?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 29, 2013, 04:51:22 PM
Are you sure it's the entire hand guard or is your fingers hitting the screw that retains it onto the gun? That's what I have felt heat from.

There is a way to help that. I discussed it with the free float barrel stuff. I made a video this weekend where I'm going to free float my barrel but I didn't finish so the video isn't done either. But I did get the part I'm talking about here filmed. I'm talking about removing the "U" insert.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: buddybaja on April 29, 2013, 06:32:03 PM
Free floating the barrel is something I am very interested. And yes the handgaurd gets pretty warm


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Mossad on April 29, 2013, 07:34:52 PM
Just a thought...send the hot screw problem to IWI...and see what they have to say...




Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: crazymjb on April 29, 2013, 08:02:10 PM
While heat dissipation is definitely desired, there should be plenty of room for it to vent off the barrel above. The solid hand-guard probably doesn't let all that much heat out anyway. I imagine the insulator would make a minor difference with relation to barrel temperature with and without, but it may make the hand-guards significantly more comfortable.

Mike


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on April 29, 2013, 10:56:29 PM
My forearm design also aids in heat dissipation. I had hoped to have my second prototype ready to unveil this past weekend but no luck. As soon as I can I will let everyone in on it.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: macgyverhk on April 29, 2013, 11:06:49 PM
I performed Pretorian's button switch mod on my Tavor with my Lasermax. It works perfectly. I also used two layers of heat shrink tubing to protect the cable from the barrel. Thanks Pretorian.

I will be able to use this same switch for the Lasermax IR as it is interchangable with two screws.



Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Lu-Wa on May 07, 2013, 06:11:59 PM
Well the Titanium has been ordered for the SAR Suppressor. The final materials are going to be 316 Stainless and Grade 5 Ti. Probably going to end up renting a B&K 2209 for the dB testing as well (unless anyone in the southeast wants to help us test it!).

Production will begin once the materials show and we will start taking pre-orders.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on May 08, 2013, 09:10:53 AM
Well the Titanium has been ordered for the SAR Suppressor. The final materials are going to be 316 Stainless and Grade 5 Ti. Probably going to end up renting a B&K 2209 for the dB testing as well (unless anyone in the southeast wants to help us test it!).

Production will begin once the materials show and we will start taking pre-orders.

What part of the "Southeast"? I'm in TN.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Slateman on May 28, 2013, 09:52:57 PM
Free floating the barrel is something I am very interested. And yes the handgaurd gets pretty warm

I'd be more interested in a free floated barrel if IWI release barrel blanks and/or extensions for aftermarket barrels.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: genStrat on May 30, 2013, 02:23:32 PM
IWI US (http://www.iwi.us/) has a FaceBook (https://www.facebook.com/IWIUS) post (from 5 hrs ago) soliciting suggestions of what to include in their web store.
Maybe an opportunity to include your 2 cents worth...

    https://www.facebook.com/IWIUS (https://www.facebook.com/IWIUS)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Aussie E on June 01, 2013, 12:22:05 AM
No it was the thread I posted in the post above yours.

AE


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Landroverman on June 05, 2013, 12:09:23 AM
A (small) Tavor bottom rail is available from Zahal.org for $60 plus $8 for air shipping from Israel. I received men in about 10 days. (Delivered by USPS with signature required.) Requires two small holes to be drilled for mounting.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: PapaJoeTx on June 05, 2013, 09:03:37 AM
You can buy those here on this site, in the bullpuparmory


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Sgt_P on June 05, 2013, 04:43:02 PM
Sorry Landroverman, the Tavor SAR rails are now in-stock at BullpupArmory.com:

http://www.bullpuparmory.com/product_p/iwi-tsrail.htm (http://www.bullpuparmory.com/product_p/iwi-tsrail.htm)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Snapperhead363 on June 11, 2013, 02:53:36 PM
If you have a IDF model or Mepro-21 on your Tavor check out my new kit.It's in the (General Discussion) area.The topic is New product for the Mepro-21.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Zombhntr on June 27, 2013, 03:04:58 AM
I came up with a mod for the magwell.the problem my mod attempts to solve is that I noticed while doing mag changes that the tavor seemed to be very picky about magazine position during insertion. If the magazine isn't almost perfectly aligned the channel in the rear of the well would push the magazine forward against the front of the magwell either making the magazine go all cockeyed or causing the front of the mag to jam against the front of the well. This mostly happened when I attempted to insert the mag at a slight side to side angle. So this is my solution I opened the rear channel up in the shape of a V so that if a mag is inserted slightly at an angle the opening will allow the magazine rib in the back of the mag to fall in the channel thus allowing the magazine to continue to be inserted into the magwell
tools need are a dremel/or air grinder with pointed carbide cutters, medium sized hand file,small hand files about 5.5",air blow gun,120grit sandpaper


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Zombhntr on June 27, 2013, 03:22:07 AM
You can see where I scribed a mark with a marker following the line of the factory magwell flare.I then stuffed a shop rag in the well to keep some of grindings out of the gun.I made a rough cut following these lines with my air grinder taking care not to get into the back wall of the well.then I squared up the cuts with my medium hand file.then I rounded the deepest part of the cut to smooth the transition from angle to the straight of the channel. Finalizing the general shape with my small hobby file set.after that is complete I went ahead and smoothed it all out with a bit of 120grit sandpaper


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: PSYCHOinMe on June 27, 2013, 03:31:11 AM
You seem to be good at figuring things out. Now try to figure out how to resize your pics so we don't need a 50" computer screen to view them.
I came up with a mod for the magwell.the problem my mod attempts to solve is that I noticed while doing mag changes that the tavor seemed to be very picky about magazine position during insertion. If the magazine isn't almost perfectly aligned the channel in the rear of the well would push the magazine forward against the front of the magwell either making the magazine go all cockeyed or causing the front of the mag to jam against the front of the well. This mostly happened when I attempted to insert the mag at a slight side to side angle. So this is my solution I opened the rear channel up in the shape of a V so that if a mag is inserted slightly at an angle the opening will allow the magazine rib in the back of the mag to fall in the channel thus allowing the magazine to continue to be inserted into the magwell
tools need are a dremel/or air grinder with pointed carbide cutters, medium sized hand file,small hand files about 5.5",air blow gun,120grit sandpaper


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Zombhntr on June 27, 2013, 03:40:10 AM
If you choose to do the mod I would say maybe don't open the V quite so wide. I followed a factory line provided by the chamfer in the magwell and it seems to be more than necessary.this magwell modification seems to really ease the somewhat finicky nature of the magwell as I have observed it. Maybe you don't have the same issues I did but I have always kinda rolled mags into the magwell of my AR15's and my tavor would reject this technique sometimes to the point I dropped the mag a couple times and I feel that when tired,worn out,or jacked up on adrenaline this modification will help make those less than perfect mag changes work a little better.here's a pic of the finished product with a magazine inserted.I also noticed in one of the pics my V wasn't quite symmetrical I assure you that I corrected it shortly after taking the pic  thanks for reading


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Zombhntr on June 27, 2013, 03:43:10 AM
Im sorry I don't have a computer and make all my posts from a smart phone that is sadly smarter than I am if that is a problem feel free not to read my post thanks


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pretorian on June 27, 2013, 04:56:25 AM
@Zombhntr
Great job!!!
We need more people like you in this thread.
Does this mod help also with mag drop free or has nothing to do with that?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Zombhntr on June 27, 2013, 05:33:34 AM
Hey pretorian im glad you like it I've grown to respect your opinion on all things tavor.to answer your question it really wasn't geared towards drop free mostly to ease insertion of a mag. I personally don't worry so much about drop free mag as im a grip and strip fella myself.I would shy away from opening up the main body of the magwell too much for fear of making it too loose with some mags in some severe cases it could lead to functionality issues where the feed lips contact the bolt during operation(I've seen it on ak's with poorly cut magwell)  but I havnt studied bolt to mag clearances yet enough to know weather its a nonissue or a major concern. Its scary cutting on a rifle that's brand new and cost 2k I wouldn't blame anyone for not wanting to do it


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on June 27, 2013, 11:06:00 AM
Zombhntr, good job. Looks like there is plenty of meat back there to do this. I may have to give it a try some day.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: reapur on June 27, 2013, 01:11:41 PM
You seem to be good at figuring things out. Now try to figure out how to resize your pics so we don't need a 50" computer screen to view them.

if you use firefox, use this extension
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/image-zoom/
Takes the irritation out of large pics, plus lets you zoom in and out.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on June 29, 2013, 12:20:50 AM
Free floating the barrel is something I am very interested. And yes the handgaurd gets pretty warm

I'd be more interested in a free floated barrel if IWI release barrel blanks and/or extensions for aftermarket barrels.

The first step towards free floating your barrel.

http://www.youtube.com/v/eP4Pp1Ddqoc?hl=en_US&version=3


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Snapperhead363 on July 24, 2013, 03:32:27 PM
These Black Rain flash hiders are the best looking flash hiders for the Tavor! Websites sell them for $99 to $109 plus shipping.I can sell these to members for $70 plus $5 shipping.Just send me a pm if you want one!


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Zombhntr on July 24, 2013, 06:08:49 PM
Holy evil blackness im in love  >:D


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: genStrat on July 25, 2013, 01:01:34 PM
These Black Rain flash hiders are the best looking flash hiders for the Tavor!

How do they stackup against the stock stock flash suppressor and others?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on July 25, 2013, 02:39:08 PM
These Black Rain flash hiders are the best looking flash hiders for the Tavor!

How do they stackup against the stock stock flash suppressor and others?

This is what I want to know. They look mean as hell, but do they do a better job of suppressing the flash?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Snapperhead363 on July 25, 2013, 03:16:42 PM
I think they work good.There's YouTube videos with Black Rain ARs shooting with the brake on.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: edcurtis on July 26, 2013, 03:10:22 AM

The first step towards free floating your barrel.

http://www.youtube.com/v/eP4Pp1Ddqoc?hl=en_US&version=3

I'm sure it's already been posted before, but my searching is weak.  What is the purpose of the "U"?  Does the barrel not get hot enough to melt it?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on July 26, 2013, 11:02:18 AM
Ed,

Pretorian says the U spacer is there for the IDF models to help stabilize the front sight. So for the flat top models it serves no purpose since the front sight is on the rail. I don't know what type of material it is. Some kind of rubber because it is flexible. Maybe a Viton type material to resist the heat and not melt?

More discussion can be found here;

http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=3383.0 (http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=3383.0)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Fjallhrafn on July 27, 2013, 01:46:06 AM
I hate those Black Rain things.

Dumbest thing ever. Unless your objective is to have a muzzle device that can double a bit for a roto-zip.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: edcurtis on July 27, 2013, 02:40:26 AM
I hate those Black Rain things.

Dumbest thing ever. Unless your objective is to have a muzzle device that can double a bit for a roto-zip.

I think that I'd hurt myself with it.  Too sharp.  :P


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Fjallhrafn on July 27, 2013, 11:37:47 AM
I hate those Black Rain things.

Dumbest thing ever. Unless your objective is to have a muzzle device that can double a bit for a roto-zip.

I think that I'd hurt myself with it.  Too sharp.  :P

They are too sharp. I once made the mistake of attempting to catch one of their rifles when one slipped from someone's hands at five feet... next time it happens, I'm not going to do a damned thing, except stomp on the gun after it hits the ground. Damned thing tore a great big chunk of flesh out of my hand.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: NoShelter on July 31, 2013, 09:15:16 PM
This is my super-amateur foam battery holder. Please note I did this in about 5 minutes. It's quick and dirty, but it works great.

Started with a EVA foam (yoga block).

Cut out the rough shape of the storage compartment in the buttstock of the Tavor.

Did some quick-fitting with an exacto knife.

Use a drill to put holes to hold the batteries.

Placed 4 batteries for my Aimpoint PRO in the buttstock.

I chose not to store batteries inside the handgrip because in the field it is a gigantic pain in the ass to get in there.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on July 31, 2013, 09:23:53 PM
That is some good combat engineering there NoShelter!


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: NoShelter on August 01, 2013, 06:11:05 PM
That is some good combat engineering there NoShelter!

lol thanks!

That's about as high tech as my workshop gets. I'm definitely in awe of the skills of you guys on this board.

/bowdown


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: genStrat on August 04, 2013, 03:30:35 PM
I chose not to store batteries inside the handgrip because in the field it is a gigantic pain in the ass to get in there.

I don't suppose anyone would be interested in tackling a replacement cover for the handgrip? It should be easily removable only when it is required and desired by its handler.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: 37thguy on August 13, 2013, 10:47:31 AM

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Any help would be great.  If possible sleeve material/brand would be nice.  You have knowledge many of us desire to learn - thanks
[/quote]
Here is one link posted at the MOR thread by boatswain
http://www.cableorganizer.com/nomex/ (http://www.cableorganizer.com/nomex/)
[/quote]

This may be a stupid question but how do I slide a cable heat shield over my tape switch cable?  Switch at one end, the other has the bulky part that goes into my Surefire.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Tru BEZ on August 15, 2013, 07:39:35 PM
Hey All,

Just got my Tavor and it is Awesome!  I have been soaking up all your knowledge and have a question.

Has anyone tested the difference in accuracy from stock setup vs the free float mod? 

Thanks!


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on August 15, 2013, 09:10:32 PM
Hey All,

Just got my Tavor and it is Awesome!  I have been soaking up all your knowledge and have a question.

Has anyone tested the difference in accuracy from stock setup vs the free float mod?  

Thanks!

No. But that is because the full free float mod isn't finished. You can remove the "U" but the charging handle still is against the barrel.

Welcome to the forum!


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: evets9357 on August 18, 2013, 08:08:35 PM
Evening Troops!
My Dad helped me start working with rifles 60 years back.
When we free floated a barrel,you could check it buy running a piece of paper up between the barrel and the stock with out catching on any thing untill it hit the chamber area.
Now how can a rifle be free floated if ther's a gas block midway on the barrel to affect the harmonics and heat of the barrel.
Please enlighten me!!

       Ageing; Eventualy you will reach a point when you stop lying about your age and start bragging about it


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pretorian on August 18, 2013, 11:48:36 PM
There is a free floated barrel and there is a free floated handguard.
Any rifle that has a gas system can't be really free floated.
The gas system puts a more consistent preasure on the barrel than a handguard touching the barrel.
The preassure apllied by the shooters hand  to a non free floating handguard, and by it to the barrel, is changing all the time so the effect on barrel harmonics is unprodictable between shots.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: evets9357 on August 19, 2013, 11:04:06 AM
Got yea
Thank's, that's an excellent and rational explanation to my question.

   Ah,being young is beautiful, being old is comfortable.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: AZ2000 on August 20, 2013, 09:46:54 PM
Removed the  Magpul AFG 2 off of my Kriss to see how it might work on the Tavor.
A few pros and cons, but will order another one and fit it to the Tavor and it should work .  Thanks to Sgt P at Bullpup armory, the lower rail fit perfectly and seems to be very well made and would imagine it will last as long as the factory hand guard.





Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Aussie E on August 20, 2013, 10:09:04 PM
Nice foregrip mod!

AE


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Uncle-Joe on August 27, 2013, 08:00:56 PM
Here's what I've settled on for keeping batteries in my stock.  I've never been one of those clever engineer types, so this is about as low-tech as it gets.

I wrapped two AA batteries in plastic wrap, and folded a piece of foam around it, and placed it in the stock.  Plastic keeps the water out, foam keeps it from moving around.



Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: DBGoolsby on September 02, 2013, 07:59:15 AM
Sorry Landroverman, the Tavor SAR rails are now in-stock at BullpupArmory.com:

http://www.bullpuparmory.com/product_p/iwi-tsrail.htm (http://www.bullpuparmory.com/product_p/iwi-tsrail.htm)

Out of stock again ... bummer. Any ETA when they will be back in stock? Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Sgt_P on September 02, 2013, 09:31:59 AM
Sorry Landroverman, the Tavor SAR rails are now in-stock at BullpupArmory.com:

http://www.bullpuparmory.com/product_p/iwi-tsrail.htm (http://www.bullpuparmory.com/product_p/iwi-tsrail.htm)

Out of stock again ... bummer. Any ETA when they will be back in stock? Thanks in advance.

Bullpup Armory was supposed to get another batch last week (and there wouldn't have been any out-of-stock time), but it now looks like sometime later this week.

There is a link to get an email when the item comes back "in-stock".


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on September 10, 2013, 10:52:35 PM
I'm putting a link to the extra gas vent hole modification I made so it will be in the sticky. The idea is to direct the gas out the ejection port before it has a chance to get all the way into the receiver and finding multiple ways to exit the gun.

http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=4176.0 (http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=4176.0)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: dawg180 on September 19, 2013, 02:20:35 PM
The Manticore Arms ARClight Tavor rail and LUMA metal safety selectors are now available for purchase at www.manticorearms.com (http://www.manticorearms.com)

Parts are IN STOCK and shipping. No pre-order, no wait, and you can pay with credit card!

Sven
Manticore Arms


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: zpat on September 19, 2013, 10:30:42 PM
I've been shocked that nobody has come up with something yet, let alone even talking about this.  To me it is a really big failure, and should be fairly easy to fix.  While with some firearms you can see why they made the pistol grip non-accessible for storage, but this one is perfect for storage--they just so happened to make a *terrible* cover that is a PITA to remove, and will break after removing a couple times (the indents break off).
I chose not to store batteries inside the handgrip because in the field it is a gigantic pain in the ass to get in there.

I don't suppose anyone would be interested in tackling a replacement cover for the handgrip? It should be easily removable only when it is required and desired by its handler.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: rickspeed on September 23, 2013, 01:28:00 PM
How to cover the pencil thin barrel......

I found a company that makes custom  barrel shrouds, or a fake cans....call it what you want.
Kineti-tech.com, custom shrouds. Pick your can style, pick your end cap....just don't pick your nose !
$ 59.95 usd

Tavor, is a Canadian model, with an 18.5" barrel


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Webstrands on September 25, 2013, 03:59:09 PM
...
Tavor, is a Canadian model, with an 18.5" barrel

This won't work for a 16.5" barrel.  There's not enough exposed barrel.  The minimum amount of exposed barrel for their shroud to work is 4.75".


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Kentucky Freedom on October 07, 2013, 06:10:14 PM

I'll start with integrating your tape switch in the tavor hand guard:

1. Pop out the button from the hanguard.

2. Remove enough material from the back of the button so you can squeeze your tape switch behind it.

3. Put the button back and the switch behind it.

4. Done.


How do I go about running the wire into the rear of the laser device? I'm assuming I will have to drill a hole due to the wire only being 6 inches long. If there is another way to run it without having to drill a hole for the wire to come through please let me know! Thank you!


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: bplvr on November 06, 2013, 07:22:59 PM
The Tavor SAR front hand grip rails are in stock today at Bull Pup Armory. ;)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: MP2 Guy on November 22, 2013, 10:28:12 PM
I just picked up the folding back-up sight set from Mako and the set works great on my Tavor. I was concerned about the height issue but, at least for me, these sights work fine - a natural good sight picture.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: CRYPTO on November 27, 2013, 01:25:23 AM
I am about to outfit my Tavor with black stingray skin grips. I will post pictures as soon as I get'er done. Stingray leather has hard dentine bumps (same material as your teeth), is extremely durable, and makes a great grip. They have been used on Samurai swords tsuka so that they could still grip their swords even whilst drenched in blood. I want to get an extra foregrip before I start this project, so that is my only delay.  I haven't tried yet. I hope it's not too difficult to find one.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: GunStarHero on November 27, 2013, 02:04:59 PM
I am about to outfit my Tavor with black stingray skin grips......

Stingray skin grips, huh? Interesting...  I tried something similar on a TMF just using some cheapo 'gun tape' I had.  If I didnt like it the adhesive stuff is supposed to be easy to clean off after removal.
But turned out pretty well I think, feels nice in the hand. Even stands up to a moderate heat test in the oven, not really sure how hot it would get after multiple mag dumps.  I'll keep it on for awhile to test how it holds up over a few range trips, but still keeping an eye out for other's ideas.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: CRYPTO on November 27, 2013, 02:18:52 PM
I am about to outfit my Tavor with black stingray skin grips......

Stingray skin grips, huh? Interesting...  I tried something similar on a TMF just using some cheapo 'gun tape' I had.  If I didnt like it the adhesive stuff is supposed to be easy to clean off after removal.
But turned out pretty well I think, feels nice in the hand. Even stands up to a moderate heat test in the oven, not really sure how hot it would get after multiple mag dumps.  I'll keep it on for awhile to test how it holds up over a few range trips, but still keeping an eye out for other's ideas.

Grip tape should hold up just fine, and if you have adhesive problems, there is nothing a little epoxy won't fix. Grip tape is a ton easier to work with than stingray leather. If you were to ever try to use stingray leather, I will give you a very usefull tip that will make things MUCH easier. To cut it, use serrated aviation snips. Its by far the best way to cut it. Many people resort to power tools, but that is much more difficult. Sorry these pics are not very good. Didn't feel like breaking out the quality camera right now. I'll save that for when she is fully dressed :)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: delta789 on December 09, 2013, 11:26:53 PM
Anyone have photos or drawings of select-fire TAR-21 versus Tavor SAR? I'm interested if nothing else for informational purposes only   ;D


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: ed9339 on December 11, 2013, 03:34:32 AM
I know every one has found their way yo the quick fix sear spring removal to lighting a Tavor trigger pull
after performing the modification I started tinkering and reversing the design.  I have drawn
a theory and suspect conclusion.  During field trials or endurance testing the sear in the Sear
Mechanism  repeatedly fail to reset causing the hammer to drop after the bolt pasted it
on its return to the chamber this could cause any number is issues failure the worst being
destination of the cartridge before the bolt is locked in the chamber or at best fully auto fire
and a run-away cycle.  (As with any of our US Military Machineguns. Immediate action  
would be to break the belt). In the Tavor keeping the discharging firearm pointing down range
drop the magazine till the last round is loaded.  I am planing on testing this theory.  Again a theory
my experience is destination in these cases I have handle two pistols in my hands that detonated and can comment to the the safety of the Glock .40 S&W and H&K USP in .45ACP.  Well built and safe for stupid
people award.   I am planing on disassembling the Sear Mechanism and using traditional
military armor techniques polish the contact and disconnecting interfaces as I have performed in
the military at request to racks of firearms cleaning up the Colt slop of the M16a2 and a3 in the days when we tapped 4 cell Mag lights to our rifles during MOUT training.  

We shall see.  If you have feedback please feel free you will not hurt my feelings


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: GunStarHero on December 12, 2013, 11:12:18 AM
I know every one has found their way yo the quick fix sear spring removal to lighting a Tavor trigger pull... [edit]

Cant speak for everyone, but I found a quicker fix.   Leave the sear spring where it belongs.  :2cents


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: ed9339 on December 14, 2013, 01:54:29 AM
What I did was did assemble the Sear Mechanism and polish the two contact  on the hammer
then on the reset connect I polished the pivot point.  After oiling the polish locations
In put it back together and I manage to go from a stock 11.5 pull to 5 to 8.5 pull with
1/4 free travel.  I took it to the range as all groups we with in one ich


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pilot4prophet on December 21, 2013, 01:16:38 PM
Well the Titanium has been ordered for the SAR Suppressor. The final materials are going to be 316 Stainless and Grade 5 Ti. Probably going to end up renting a B&K 2209 for the dB testing as well (unless anyone in the southeast wants to help us test it!).

Production will begin once the materials show and we will start taking pre-orders.

I'm very interested in this suppressor design. Please keep us updated on the progress.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: qsiphon76 on January 11, 2014, 03:11:09 PM
Hi guys, been learning a lot from the forum, just finished my own DIY project on my Tavor out of necessity. I have not been able to find the IWI Handguard rail in stock, plus, I was discouraged at the price of an accessory that should have been included with my rifle anyway....

For those of you that will ask, I don't like the look or the cost of the after-market handguards out there. Honestly, I would rather spend $150-$250 on ammo for my Tavor than a the handguards avaliable. (Not hating on them, just choosing not to buy them)

With all of that said, I thought I would share what I think is a pretty good, cheap way to get a forward grip on your Tavor.

Went to Primary Arms (love those guys) here in Houston and picked up a Magpul RVG and a Magpul polymer 5 slot rail section. The 5 slot has the bolt hole closer to one end than the other.

Marked the bolt holes on the handguard and drilled the holes as close as I could to center. The bolt hole closest to the end of the rail section should be measured and marked closest to the muzzle. The handguard has flat spots on the inside that make this easier.

Used a dremel to grind down the ribs on the outside of the handguard so the rail section can sit flush against the handguard.

I had to dremel down one of the ribs inside the handguard to allow the flat bolts that come with the Magpul stuff to sit straight into the area I was working in. (Wanted to make the hold as strong as I could)

Once I had bolted everything up, I was really pleased with how tight everything was. I thought the only downside to this setup would be that the forward grip would sit at a slight angle from the barrel as the handguard has a taper upward. After I took it to the range, I was really pleased with how comfy it was.




Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pilot4prophet on January 11, 2014, 05:21:57 PM
Bullpup Armory has the foregrip rails for a very reasonable $25. installs in seconds.
http://www.bullpuparmory.com/TAVOR_ACCESSORIES_s/1835.htm

P4P


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: qsiphon76 on January 11, 2014, 07:27:57 PM
Thanks, Pilot, but that website says out of stock. It has for a while. I only spend $30, grip included.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: bplvr on January 11, 2014, 08:36:09 PM
just sign up for an e-mail when it is in stock.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: HeavyG63 on January 12, 2014, 11:29:19 PM
Zahal.org has a foregrip picatinny rail system available...


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Rundover on February 08, 2014, 05:38:36 PM
Tavor laser mod with factory button.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Rundover on February 08, 2014, 06:46:32 PM
I thought I was the only one that had a difficult time removing the grip storage cover, guess not. So here is what I did. I struggled to get the cover off and then filed down the two tabs to about 1/3 the height they were. I then angled all four sides on each so they kind of look like a pyramid. Doing this made a less radical transision so now I can just get a good grip and pull and it will come right off with no tools. Took about 10 min, being careful not to take too much off.
Oh, and I store spare batteries and a cleaning cloth for the optic in there and bumped several times and stays put so it seems to be working so far.
genstrat, the tabs now do not need to flex as much so they should last allot longer.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Grevlin on March 15, 2014, 04:58:52 PM
Simple addition - I added a strip of rubberized grip tape in three strategic locations.

1. Under the TMF - obvious

2. Inside area of handguard - help when grabbing, moving the rifle around and shouldering etc.

3. Two thin strips on either side of mid section - I use this spot and a sort of "carry handle" for the rifle


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Berkley on March 22, 2014, 02:30:47 AM
Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that due to great support by bullpup forum we are offering the foregrip pressure switch to forum members with free shipping as of now.  Just mention bullpup forum when purchasing either through gunbroker or ebay, and we will waive the 5$ fee.  Thanks and happy shooting.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=401775389

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181358886336


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: devildog911 on April 30, 2014, 04:07:23 PM
Hey guys, I'm new to the BPF but I'm already soaking up the collective knowledge.  I received my Tavor about a week ago and I'm loving it.  I selected it to replace my Stag soutpaw M-4 as a patrol rifle. After reading several of the DIY mods I've already ordered parts.  The trigger spring mod was done on the first day at the range, and have had no problems thus far.  We'll see how it holds.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: devildog911 on May 04, 2014, 03:07:36 AM
Well...did the return spring removal on the trigger group.  No fail to reset or any malfunctions to speak of...but considering this now my patrol rifle, I couldn't leave it to chance and put the spring back in.  I'll have to seriously torture test that mod before I'll trust my life, my partner's, or a citizens with that....

Couldn't justify paying in upwards of $50 for a simple rail to mount to the factory grip when I plan on getting the Manticore ARClight xlt when it comes out.  Instead I ordered the Magpul MOE rail to mod onto the factory grip (I'm not worried about the angle).  Then bullpup armory got the IWI poly rail in stock...(I can however justify $25)...so guess what I just ordered.

This what I hate and love about having a shiny new toy...especially one so cool as the Tavor...and the accessories are only beginning to come out... :--*



Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: xpdchief on May 04, 2014, 07:17:27 AM
Well...did the return spring removal on the trigger group.  No fail to reset or any malfunctions to speak of...but considering this now my patrol rifle, I couldn't leave it to chance and put the spring back in.  I'll have to seriously torture test that mod before I'll trust my life, my partner's, or a citizens with that....

Couldn't justify paying in upwards of $50 for a simple rail to mount to the factory grip when I plan on getting the Manticore ARClight xlt when it comes out.  Instead I ordered the Magpul MOE rail to mod onto the factory grip (I'm not worried about the angle).  Then bullpup armory got the IWI poly rail in stock...(I can however justify $25)...so guess what I just ordered.

This what I hate and love about having a shiny new toy...especially one so cool as the Tavor...and the accessories are only beginning to come out... :--*



I don't normally like to give unsolicited advise, so please accept what I am saying as someone who has been there and spent most of my later career always asking, "what if". 
Before you modify your patrol rifle think of what the lawyers are going to try to do, if God forbid you are forced to use your rifle and they discover that you've modified it from it's original configuration (especially the trigger assembly).  Please don't give them any reason to blame you and make their client the victim.
God Bless, and stay safe.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: togjr9 on May 04, 2014, 09:55:49 AM
Good Point XPDchief! I removed the extra trigger spring and didn't care for it. I like the strong and crisp reset and since I'm not trying to hit a quarter a 300 yards with my Tavor the trigger pull doesn't bother me. I plan on getting Art's trigger when it comes out and giving it a whirl. I've had a few lawyer friends warn me of the danger of litigation from DIY modifications.


Title: Re:
Post by: devildog911 on May 04, 2014, 08:44:46 PM
Exactly why I put the spring back in. After all, it is a combat rifle...I can deal with the heavy trigger.  Anything new will feel alien at first. I have already begun to feel more comfortable with the trigger dry firing it with snap caps, and I DON'T doubt it will become more comfortable with added trigger time at the range.

I will deal with the factory handguard with the IWI under rail until the ARClight xl is available.

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Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: togjr9 on May 04, 2014, 09:55:23 PM
Just got back from shooting today with the factory trigger, complain all you want about trigger and accuracy, I was nailing 1 gallon frozen fruit jugs at 25,50 & 100 yards with an Aimpoint. For the most part that's more accuracy than I'll ever need, green tip and steel targets was fun as well. I too am looking forward to the Arclight XLT, if nothing else it looks pretty bad-ass!


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: devildog911 on May 05, 2014, 12:06:17 AM
Oh I'm definitely not complaining about the accuracy.  IMO the Tavor's accuracy is equal to my 20 inch barreled AR's, with far superior balance.  I too use an Aimpoint (Comp M2). 

The only issue with the trigger being heavy is when doing combat drills.  That heavy of a trigger causes you to jerk the rifle when doing rapid shots, which at intermediate distance will effect accuracy.  At the 25 yard line however, I can dump a mag rapid fire and never come off center mass.  Bench rested is also no problem with the heavy trigger because you can concentrate on keeping a perfect sight picture and having a smooth trigger squeeze   

Like I said, the trigger really just takes getting used to.  My Stag Arms southpaw had a 3-4 pound trigger, and after years of shooting that as a patrol rifle, the Tavor trigger just feels foreign at first.  I may go with an aftermarket trigger group in the future, but other appointments to the rifle are of a higher priority right now. 


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: devildog911 on May 05, 2014, 12:34:11 AM
So with the pending release of the Manticore ArcLight XLT, are any of the other manufacturers of Tavor forearms considering their own extended lenth models?

A variant that has a rail extended the full lenth (monolithic) would be of interest, if simply for increasing the sight radius for iron sights. 

Just curious...


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: dawg180 on May 08, 2014, 02:02:39 PM
So with the pending release of the Manticore ArcLight XLT, are any of the other manufacturers of Tavor forearms considering their own extended lenth models?

A variant that has a rail extended the full lenth (monolithic) would be of interest, if simply for increasing the sight radius for iron sights. 

Just curious...

Plenty more is coming, there are a lot of features with the patent pending XTL ARClight you haven't seen yet  (intentionally- don't show all your cards while copycats are trying to jump on the bandwagon!)  ;)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: JP on May 24, 2014, 04:34:59 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/25/renydy9y.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/25/era5unyj.jpg)

Recently cut the barrel to 14' and pinned a Noveske pig.  Shot 6rds at 80yrds...not to bad.


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Title: Re: Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts and upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Aeromat209 on July 02, 2014, 01:14:51 AM
That's a good one Pretorian!

I had a thread about the trigger pack extension spring removal to have a lighter trigger. Link below. My average trigger pull weight is 8lbs 2.5oz according to my digital scale. With the spring in the same pack I got 10lbs 3oz. You can easily see the spring in the two packs in the picture. Stock on the right, spring removed on the left.

http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=2558.0 (http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=2558.0)
(http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r494/Gear_Head_Works/Tavor/utf-8BSU1BRzAyOTguanBn_zps6f54426f.jpg) (http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/Gear_Head_Works/media/Tavor/utf-8BSU1BRzAyOTguanBn_zps6f54426f.jpg.html)

Future products and ideas will be shared here as well. Hopefully this becomes a sticky!


  MAC did a vid on Youtube showing the trigger spring removal just search Tavor trigger mod and it will pop up!


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on July 02, 2014, 01:20:25 AM
Yeah I saw it. It was done some time after the mod was posted on this forum.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Kenndapp on July 24, 2014, 04:42:02 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/25/renydy9y.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/25/era5unyj.jpg)

Recently cut the barrel to 14' and pinned a Noveske pig.  Shot 6rds at 80yrds...not to bad.


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Wold like to here more about how this cut n pinned tavor is running with the reduced dwell time.  The kx3 increases back pressure so I am sure this one is running to equal gas specs as a stock barrel.

But if anyone else has a cut n pinned barrel with fh or comp...... I would love to hear how your tavor is running on slightly reduced gas. I started a thread on this a while back but turned into some legal OAL and NFA confusion... back n forth arguments.

I would imagine a cut tavor barrel does just fine with gas system being back so far.... Even if you do loose an inch or so of dwel time. Maybe even makes for a softer shooting tavor?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: AZ2000 on August 10, 2014, 09:17:14 PM
Was looking at my Tavor and thought I would come up with DIY for the empty hole I never use in my stock because it's a pain to get the cap off.  

So here it is.
The big thing will be finding some .040 or .035 round spring steel Music Wire. The reason for this type wire is it will hold itself in from spring pressure and not come out when shooting the Tavor.  Pictures are self explanatory, make a template after you do the measurements so it sizes right and now the biggy which some may not want to do.  
Find the center of the mold well at the bottom of the stock and put one hole at the front of the stock hand side about 1/4" deep and a second hole all the way through into the cap side. An easy way to do it is with a piece of hot wire and melt it through. A drill did not fit for me because of the chuck not allowing to drill a horizontal hole into each side. You will have to trim the two nipples off of the cap but only do this after you have every thing drilled and the spring pin set in place and it's where you want it.   I thought about having to put holes in the stock for the pin, but unless you are actually looking for them you will probably not notice they are there.  For some reason should the cap come off and be lost, you should be able to order a new cap cover and snap it on with the original holes in the stock.

The zig zag style holds the best and does not move, the half circle style is easier to get in and out, and seems to hold fairly well, if it shows any movement a small piece of the loop side of Velcro on the side of the depression should hold it flat and in place..


AZ

(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab178/Dirt1/Spring%20clip/IMG_3268-1.jpg) (http://s861.photobucket.com/user/Dirt1/media/Spring%20clip/IMG_3268-1.jpg.html)
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab178/Dirt1/Spring%20clip/IMG_3267.jpg) (http://s861.photobucket.com/user/Dirt1/media/Spring%20clip/IMG_3267.jpg.html)
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab178/Dirt1/Spring%20clip/IMG_3271.jpg) (http://s861.photobucket.com/user/Dirt1/media/Spring%20clip/IMG_3271.jpg.html)
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab178/Dirt1/Spring%20clip/IMG_3275.jpg) (http://s861.photobucket.com/user/Dirt1/media/Spring%20clip/IMG_3275.jpg.html)
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab178/Dirt1/Spring%20clip/IMG_3272.jpg) (http://s861.photobucket.com/user/Dirt1/media/Spring%20clip/IMG_3272.jpg.html)
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab178/Dirt1/Spring%20clip/IMG_3269.jpg) (http://s861.photobucket.com/user/Dirt1/media/Spring%20clip/IMG_3269.jpg.html)



Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: chillstone on September 07, 2014, 11:41:21 PM
Anyone consider painting the visible portion of the cocking rod subassembly black so that it does not stand out so much?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: freefallindan on October 03, 2014, 01:03:37 PM
Does anyone have recent updates or opinions on:

1) The effect removing the "U" (or just its rubber liner) from the upper assembly to partially float the handguard... accuracy and grouping-consistency changes?  How about durability... would it be bad news to drop the rifle nose first if the barrel is no longer braced up front?

2) Efforts to float the rest of the handguard by modifying the charging assembly. Did anyone ever tinker with that?

dan


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Master.Mason3 on October 05, 2014, 02:46:50 PM
-Tavor FDE 18.5
-Eo tech EXPS2
-Eo tech G33 Magnifier
-QD bungee sling
-Surefire M95 Weapon light
-CAA Thumb screw foregrip
-Harris Bi-pod


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: GQP on November 09, 2014, 01:08:49 AM
Found the perfect "Comp" for my IWI Tavor. The Griffin Armament QD Blast shield quickly attaches to any muzzle brake or flash hider that uses the A2-style lug. This means I can easily switch it to other rifles when needed.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5613/15744655535_36a9b61a51_c.jpg)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3951/15559488167_41d0cd9f30_c.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7545/15742740281_8d13916a26_c.jpg)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Evergreenoldboy on November 10, 2014, 08:30:34 AM
Does anyone know where I can find this pressure switch housing? Ive seen it on numerous guns so I know it's not custom but can't find it. http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r494/Gear_Head_Works/Tavor/Tavor%252520development/TMF/_MG_8153_zpsd380f6a8.jpg&imgrefurl=https://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic%3D4104.0&h=682&w=1024&tbnid=gbBEln5Wy7dxxM:&zoom=1&docid=2NY2f0qjPG6ZZM&hl=en&ei=b69gVMejDu_CsASJ2YGQBA&tbm=isch&client=safari&ved=0CB8QMygCMAI


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Gear Head on November 11, 2014, 11:22:41 AM
Does anyone know where I can find this pressure switch housing? Ive seen it on numerous guns so I know it's not custom but can't find it. http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r494/Gear_Head_Works/Tavor/Tavor%252520development/TMF/_MG_8153_zpsd380f6a8.jpg&imgrefurl=https://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic%3D4104.0&h=682&w=1024&tbnid=gbBEln5Wy7dxxM:&zoom=1&docid=2NY2f0qjPG6ZZM&hl=en&ei=b69gVMejDu_CsASJ2YGQBA&tbm=isch&client=safari&ved=0CB8QMygCMAI

Here you go.
http://www.bullpuparmory.com/product_p/rsr-mag402-blk.htm (http://www.bullpuparmory.com/product_p/rsr-mag402-blk.htm)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: paolo.orange on January 04, 2015, 04:32:49 PM
So far a much better deflector that ejects cases at 2 o'clock no matter the load.
(http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac258/Paolo_Fanton/IMG_3228_zpsf2dc5343.jpg)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: racky on January 05, 2015, 12:40:43 AM
Hey GQP, what exactly does the GQP do?????, reduce Flash more than stock A2 tavor flash hider OR reduce muzzle jump/recoil???


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: xpdchief on January 05, 2015, 08:33:57 AM
GQP, does the muzzle brake have to be removed to install this device? 


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: cal50 on January 15, 2015, 05:18:12 PM
Recoil Spring removal.

(Might come in handy)



http://www.youtube.com/v/XorSllQgDEI?hl=en_US&version=3&rel=0


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: evets9357 on January 15, 2015, 05:59:31 PM


   Thanks bunches for that vid.
   It sure simplifies things for us compared to trying to use the manual


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: cal50 on January 15, 2015, 07:46:13 PM


   Thanks bunches for that vid.
   It sure simplifies things for us compared to trying to use the manual


A pic is worth 1000 words and a few minutes of video makes it a hell of a lot easier.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: DeltaBravo on January 25, 2015, 11:24:48 PM
This is my 1st post on this forum.

Working on a light for my Tavor. TLR1 with tape switch.  I'll post pics later.

What I'm doing -

Pulled of offset polymer rail and drill a hole thru it that fits tape switch.
Feeding tape switch thru gun and going to utilize button.
I've sanded the button down and back filled gap to create flat surface on button.
Attached a nomex sleeve to tape switch to help with heat.

Looking for advice on attaching actual pressure pad with double sided tape or velcro. And help with heat on pressure pad.

Once completed it should be fully functional with no visible wires.

Lastly I ordered the IWI button on eBay.  Has anyone tried that button?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: AZ-Chris on January 31, 2015, 12:53:25 AM
This is my 1st post on this forum.

Lastly I ordered the IWI button on eBay.  Has anyone tried that button?


My first post on the forum too.

I ordered the IWI button from fellow Bullpup forum member Berkley.  I PM'd him first and he invoiced me directly.  I received the switch in 2 or 3 days.

I spliced the IWI switch into a SureFire M600 Ultra Scout momentary tape switch.  Easy job and works great!  The switch is absolutely PERFECT for the Tavor.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: DeltaBravo on January 31, 2015, 01:58:17 AM
I went thru the eBay website. Ordered on 25th. Still hasn't shipped yet. 

Was the wiring easy? Color coded? Or just solder the two together?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: AZ-Chris on January 31, 2015, 11:40:23 PM
The SureFire tape switch has just 2 conductors, as does the IWI switch.  It won't matter which way you connect the wires.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: DeltaBravo on February 01, 2015, 03:19:18 AM
I just heard from Berkley. My shipped yesterday. I have TLR 1 with door switch. Can't wait to get it finished.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: BSOL on February 28, 2015, 11:12:33 AM
Tavor kitted out with Midwest Industries' new M-Lok hand guard, MI ejection port cover, Seekins Precision vortex style flash hider (no 'ping' sounds with this one), Geissele Super Sabra trigger, and a Tango Down Stubby vertical grip. Not to mention this one is left handed  ;)

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj634/eburch01/IMG_0175_zps5ab81166.jpg)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: jkirkland5012 on March 06, 2015, 03:27:47 PM
Light Installation Controlled by Factory IWI Button

To some degree this has been talked about earlier in the thread but I haven't seen it done quite this way. I wanted to use the existing but inoperative light switch to control my light without having to spend the money on a new button. I thought I would lay out the steps I took and maybe get some advice as well.

1. I got a Fenix PD35 and the remote pressure switch. That left me with a spare tail cap for the PD35. I wanted to make the rubber bumper and switch fit in the Factory IWI button. You can see it in the bottom left. I've drilled it out to get it ready for the Dremel.

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y472/Jeff_Kirkland/IMG_0205_zpslsq0idge.jpg)

2. Dremel until the bumper fits:

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y472/Jeff_Kirkland/IMG_0207_zpsortyufcl.jpg)

3. Solder leads to the switch unit from the original PD35 tail cap:

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y472/Jeff_Kirkland/IMG_0209_zpsibgseqyf.jpg)

4. Took a little more Dremel to get the switch and the bumper in to the factory button:

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y472/Jeff_Kirkland/IMG_0210_zpskano69no.jpg)

5. Cut the pressure switch off the remote activator and ran it through the rail/foregrip:

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y472/Jeff_Kirkland/IMG_0208_zpsdtr7q0nz.jpg)

6. Solder the switch to the remote activator. Secure with heat shrink, electrical tape etc ...

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y472/Jeff_Kirkland/IMG_0211_zpsozwst34i.jpg)

7. Reassemble:

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y472/Jeff_Kirkland/IMG_0212_zpsai3zxg4i.jpg)

8. Enjoy:

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y472/Jeff_Kirkland/IMG_0217_zpswlipdcwe.jpg)


Now, I'm asking advice. I agree, I wouldn't want to be worrying about my soldering skill while I was fighting for my life. Also, that cable is pretty close to the barrel and it's going to get hot. Recommendations on hardening this setup?

I've got the ability to buy the kits but this is a project and I like to nerd out on stuff like this. Ideas?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: jkirkland5012 on March 08, 2015, 06:21:16 PM
Update:

I putt a couple hundred rounds through it yesterday. Everything held up perfectly. Still worked about the issue of cord being exposed to heat from barrel.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: PattonWasRight on March 26, 2015, 02:10:47 PM
Thanks for the detailed McGuyver work there.

To protect things, what about that aluminum heat resistant tape to hold things in place? I would put a layer of electrical tape (which is fire resistant) over the exposed wires, then the aluminum tape over that and part of the pig tail cord.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: jkirkland5012 on March 28, 2015, 12:16:25 PM
Thanks for the info. I've already put quite a bit of electrical tape on it. I was completely blanking on what else could be used as a heat shield. I'll try and track down some of the aluminum tape.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: TOM1911 on March 28, 2015, 01:47:48 PM
Got busy, and finished out the basic freefloat modification.. Just taking out the poly barrel snubber just didn't seem to allow enough clearance.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Kissmethod17 on April 07, 2015, 02:29:40 PM
Could someone fill me in. Did Galloway Precision discontinue all the Tavor parts they were making? If so, what was the particular reason?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: freefallindan on April 07, 2015, 03:04:27 PM
Got busy, and finished out the basic freefloat modification.. Just taking out the poly barrel snubber just didn't seem to allow enough clearance.

Tom,
What kind of nuts did you replace the U-piece with so you can still screw in the fore-arm?
Any change to zero/POI after the mod?

Thx
Dan


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: TOM1911 on April 08, 2015, 09:21:32 PM
Got busy, and finished out the basic freefloat modification.. Just taking out the poly barrel snubber just didn't seem to allow enough clearance.

Tom,
What kind of nuts did you replace the U-piece with so you can still screw in the fore-arm?
Any change to zero/POI after the mod?

Thx
Dan
Dan.. The nuts are the remains of a cut horseshoe.. The way IWI designed the forearm retaining screws required the shouldered nuts, to work properly with the shouldered screws. Not using the threaded insert would require using a bigger screw or bolt and a corresponding nut on the inside, taking up the little space that there is, as little of it that there was. The horseshoe is used as a front sight stabilizer on the IDF models and really only serves to allow an attachment point for the upper handguard/cocking guide, the main body of the rifle, and the lower handguard. It appears to be made of an alloy of 17-4/17-7 corrosion resistant steel because it wouldn't take a touch up blue pen to darken the cut edges. I haven't had the opprotunity to take it out for grouping confirmation but, from what I've read from other Tavor owners who have either removed the poly snubber, or removed the horseshoe entirely, they have had more consistent group sizes, without the flyers associated with the pressure exerted on the barrel from the horseshoe.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: freefallindan on April 09, 2015, 06:58:36 PM
The nuts are the remains of a cut horseshoe.

Ahhh now I see it in the pics, thanks. So the sides of the U were not touching the barrel, but the top was... so snip the U and keep the shouldered-nut sides.  What tools did the cutting require, if you don't mind sharing?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: TOM1911 on April 10, 2015, 04:24:15 PM
The nuts are the remains of a cut horseshoe.

Ahhh now I see it in the pics, thanks. So the sides of the U were not touching the barrel, but the top was... so snip the U and keep the shouldered-nut sides.  What tools did the cutting require, if you don't mind sharing?
Tools were.. A 1/4" die grinder with a cutoff wheel, a flat b******* cut file, and a steady hand.. The top really wasn't hitting but, it was closer than I liked.. So, off it came.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: freefallindan on April 10, 2015, 06:52:45 PM
Copy.  Thx for the info sir


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: SCBCKC on April 18, 2015, 07:02:26 AM
I spoke to IWI yesterday. They told me that removing the spring will eventually cause failures to reset. It happened on every Tavor they tested.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Zeusmotorworks on April 18, 2015, 08:15:12 AM
They were testing a lighter trigger pack for the US market... did they mention anything about that?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: AUG556Shooter on September 28, 2015, 03:38:36 PM
I spoke to IWI yesterday. They told me that removing the spring will eventually cause failures to reset. It happened on every Tavor they tested.


Remove a spring that the engineers designed into the trigger pack. Problems result.

SHOCKING.

Don't do it.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: coolhand77 on September 29, 2015, 07:51:59 AM
thats why I got a Geissle instead of removing the spring...


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Sixzero on December 28, 2015, 08:00:51 PM
After reading through the thread, I'm surprised no one has attempted to install a light into the factory hand guard. Is this possible? I find the current options (midwest industries) extremely pricey.
I have not taken mine apart but from the pictures I've seen of it removed it looks like enough space to mount a 1 inch light inside. Simply drilling a hole and figuring out some way to secure it internally seems like a viable option. I am no machinist,  or I'd just try this myself. I did read earlier in the thread that an extra hand guard is relatively cheap from IWI, in case it's a failed attempt.

Another question for whoever... I have the IDF version,  does anyone have any experience with the 30ish $ QD rail mount, for mounting your own magnifier? Again, the one made for the IDF seems a bit much at 500$.

I know, I'm cheap.

Thanks.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Aussie E on December 29, 2015, 12:51:01 AM
vwnatas installed a Surefire scout in his with a modified Surefire click-on click off push-button that fit the factory hole. Turned out tits. He removed it when he got his suppressor as it was in the way and precluded him from mounting the can. There are pictures somewhere on the site.

AE


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Sixzero on December 29, 2015, 12:07:44 PM
Thanks brother, I'll search for that.

Happy new years!


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: pretorian on January 11, 2016, 01:20:05 PM
(https://bullpupforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2734.0;attach=3315;image)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: rambones on March 21, 2016, 12:53:46 PM
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/rambones_album/Mobile%20Uploads/20160319_000104.jpg) (http://s458.photobucket.com/user/rambones_album/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160319_000104.jpg.html)

Hi Guys, just found this forum.

MY DIY Project

Tavor Tar-21 CNC aluminum handguard from solid.

Still a work in progress, hope to make the next one slightly thicket with keymod



Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: RCShadow on March 21, 2016, 09:17:31 PM
Let me know if you ever want to sell this one.  I would get it anodized in black if you were to sell it to me :).

Thank you!

(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/rambones_album/Mobile%20Uploads/20160319_000104.jpg) (http://s458.photobucket.com/user/rambones_album/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160319_000104.jpg.html)

Hi Guys, just found this forum.

MY DIY Project

Tavor Tar-21 CNC aluminum handguard from solid.

Still a work in progress, hope to make the next one slightly thicket with keymod




Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: rambones on March 22, 2016, 12:00:40 PM
Hey there,

thanks for the feedback.

Dont worry, once I refine the design, I will make sure to make atleast a small batch available to others.

Anodized type 3 hard black, and if enough interest FDE.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: RCShadow on March 22, 2016, 11:06:48 PM
Thank you!  I would be definitely interested for sure.  Any guesstimate on price?  Not to press you to be sure  ;D.

Thanks again!

Hey there,

thanks for the feedback.

Dont worry, once I refine the design, I will make sure to make atleast a small batch available to others.

Anodized type 3 hard black, and if enough interest FDE.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: rambones on March 22, 2016, 11:29:59 PM
it will be around the same as what is available right now on the market.



Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: togjr9 on April 21, 2016, 03:58:13 PM
Tavor got a nose job, Phase 5 FatMan Hex Brake. Unfortunately there is no room for the light unless I cut off the Bayonet Lug. Yeah I know, what's the point in keeping it on?


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: rambones on April 25, 2016, 08:23:51 PM
My Latest Gen Keymod Handguard. Still room for improvement,

I am already working on the next version. Enjoy. Cheers ;)

(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/rambones_album/Mobile%20Uploads/20160425_015113.jpg) (http://s458.photobucket.com/user/rambones_album/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160425_015113.jpg.html)





Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: rambones on April 25, 2016, 11:41:10 PM
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/rambones_album/Mobile%20Uploads/20160425_203337.jpg) (http://s458.photobucket.com/user/rambones_album/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160425_203337.jpg.html)

comparison to my last handguard


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: dushan on April 26, 2016, 12:05:54 AM
rambones - That looks amazing. I always wanted somebody to make a slimmer handguard.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: rambones on April 27, 2016, 04:31:33 PM
Cheers, I am still working to refine the ergos a bit ;)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: rambones on April 30, 2016, 06:25:22 PM
(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/rambones_album/Mobile%20Uploads/20160430_152201.jpg) (http://s458.photobucket.com/user/rambones_album/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160430_152201.jpg.html)

All finished!


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: MajorKong on May 02, 2016, 08:02:13 AM
I've been away for awhile.  That doesn't look like a stock barrel on rambones Tavor.  Where did you get it?  Or perhaps more importantly where can I get one? 



Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: evets9357 on May 02, 2016, 09:14:34 AM
   Is that grip now long enough to mount a Harris bipod on the front and a short vertical grip on the rear of it


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: rambones on May 02, 2016, 04:17:54 PM
Hi, My Tavor has a 18.75 in Barrel

I put 5 keymod slots on the bottom on this one and my BCM Vertical grip takes up 3 slots so no space for a harris bipod.

But I plan on adding a Tar pod to this.

cheers


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Apache on May 04, 2016, 10:49:45 PM
I had my rifle apart so I thought I'd show the heat shield I made for the Gear Head TMF a while back. It's a 1/8" x 1 1/4" x 5 1/2" piece of aluminum, it's slightly thick to clear the bottom of the cocking rod guide so I used a rat tail file to make a cross slot for clearance and since the allen screws used to tighten the flashlight in place stick up slightly I also had to cut a notch for clearance. Now that it's getting warmer I'll Gun Kote it black the next time I'm refinishing a rifle ...

In the past I had also shortened the pressure switch wire by disassembling the flashlight tailcap and then cut and re-soldered the wires internally so they're only about 2 1/2" long, now they lay down in the bottom of the TMF without any chance they can ever come in contact with a hot barrel ...

(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/Apache659/TMF%20Heat%20Shield%201.jpg)

(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/Apache659/TMF%20Heat%20Shield%202.jpg)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: 2450paul on May 05, 2016, 06:54:40 PM
I'd like to introduce everyone to Black Betty. SAR-B16, Manticore Arms ARClight XTL forearm with Molot vertical grip, internal Fenix PD-35 950 lumen light and tape switch with fabricated aluminum heat shield,  AK Builder US made 4 piece cone flash hider, Princeton Tec Switch Rail task light(top front of XTL), Manticore Arms Switchback folding charging handle, Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6X24 Scope, American Defense Recon H mount, Vortex rail mounted 2032 battery storage(under eye piece of scope). I like this rifle! I've tried most of the 5.56 rifles available and this one is my end all choice. Besides removing the auxiliary hammer spring I did some honing and spring work on my hammer pack smoothing it up and reducing it to an average of 5.62 lbs out of 10 trigger pulls using a gauge. I think the only thing left to do is the Manticore curved butt plate and shoot it as long as I can feed it. It's all about function.  

Well 10 months later Black Betty has existed in several configurations, 16.5" barrel, 18" bbl, factory forearm, ARClight XTL and now in my opinion the forearm to end all searches, The RPM Precision. Yep she just had to have a makeover and since there's only one Black Betty I said what the heck, it's only money. So, her she is. I'm callin her "Barely Legal Black Betty" now; 14.5" bbl with U.S. made 4 pc. cone flash hider/brake/adjustable gas booster pinned and welded to bbl. 26 3/8" overall length. I did add the Manticore curved butt-pad(as Sven says "it rolls up into your shoulder naturally") and gasket-ed eject port cover(I say it do help). Next time I put the 18" bbl, scope and bipod on her I'll take a picture to post here. Like I said before this is my end all rifle so I've gone modular. One rifle for different missions. Uh Oh, Betty says it's time to go shopping for accessories see y'all later


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: BullpupT on May 08, 2016, 11:24:47 AM
I decided to go back to the stock handguard after using it for awhile. The balance of the rifle feels better to me with the stock set up. I had an MI XXL rail with a Surfire scout 500 lumens mounted inside. It put a lot of excess weight in front of my support hand.

I ended up putting the stock side rail back on too. The rifle just felt better with the weight of the light more rearward. The only issue was activating the light. I had a Surefire dual switch mounted to the side of the MI XXL handguard but the switch pad was way to big for the stock grip.

I ended up buying a regular Surefire pressure switch which I snaked through the upper handguard. I could do this because I have a Gearhead short Razorback rail which exposes the top handguard just like the IDF model. I am using his front sight too.


I was a bit worried about heat from the barrel ruining the pressure switch. The cable contacted the barrel and there was no way of zip tie it down. I ended up finding some really nice tightly wound 1/2 ID heat proof tubing. It needs to be 1/2 inside diameter because he Surefire end plug is exactly 1/2. The tubing stretches around it.

It can withstand 1000 degrees of direct heat and 2000 degrees intermittent heat. My barrel will never come near 1000 degrees so I feel a lot safer using the tubing. I also needed to modify the stock activation button that I slipped out of the stock handguard.

Here are some pictures to help illustrate the process for anyone interested. The button feels rock solid and almost factory made. The pressure needed to activate is perfect.

Hopefully I didn't post to many pictures. I just want give a good example for people who want to do the mod. I also folded the exposed section of tubing in half and zip tie it in a couple key places. I left it flat inside the handguard because it acts like a ribbon wire and hugs the inside of the receiver without touching the barrels. The gun feels much more neutral in the hand without the heavy feeling of my old set up. I took the TA11 ACOG off and installed an MRO to further reduce weight.

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y468/TheBusey/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsixqwqfzq.jpeg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/TheBusey/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsixqwqfzq.jpeg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y468/TheBusey/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsrcsstibi.jpeg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/TheBusey/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsrcsstibi.jpeg.html)


Remember to relieve the bottom of the button so the pressure is applied in the center of the switch
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y468/TheBusey/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsxurcxscq.jpeg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/TheBusey/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsxurcxscq.jpeg.html)


(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y468/TheBusey/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsvdegemnf.jpeg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/TheBusey/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsvdegemnf.jpeg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y468/TheBusey/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsfzkwti7n.jpeg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/TheBusey/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsfzkwti7n.jpeg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y468/TheBusey/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpssy93ucey.jpeg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/TheBusey/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpssy93ucey.jpeg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y468/TheBusey/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsu8f6ynjq.jpeg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/TheBusey/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsu8f6ynjq.jpeg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y468/TheBusey/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsbjdd9rhv.jpeg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/TheBusey/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsbjdd9rhv.jpeg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y468/TheBusey/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsokmjbiwm.jpeg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/TheBusey/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsokmjbiwm.jpeg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y468/TheBusey/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps0vmpxewl.jpeg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/TheBusey/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps0vmpxewl.jpeg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y468/TheBusey/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsvg4rmae1.jpeg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/TheBusey/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsvg4rmae1.jpeg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y468/TheBusey/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsimmhqy7g.jpeg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/TheBusey/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsimmhqy7g.jpeg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y468/TheBusey/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsig0xjnpk.jpeg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/TheBusey/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsig0xjnpk.jpeg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y468/TheBusey/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps4twclgcp.jpeg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/TheBusey/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps4twclgcp.jpeg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y468/TheBusey/IMG_2117_zpswursti8i.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/TheBusey/media/IMG_2117_zpswursti8i.jpg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y468/TheBusey/IMG_2118_zpsfqjiembc.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/TheBusey/media/IMG_2118_zpsfqjiembc.jpg.html)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: DILLIGAF on May 10, 2016, 06:52:58 PM
Got mine today for testing  ;D  thanks buds  8

(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/13219579_10154205901863552_37794162_n.jpg?oh=76c780b47b527d02cf84f65edeaa6e4d&oe=57349271)


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Weltall on May 22, 2016, 04:43:50 PM
Felt the need to post up what I have waiting on me back home...
1- A new X95, what ever color the LGS that I ordered from could find in stock.
2- Super Sabra trigger pack and Lightning Bow
3- GHW Flex swivel/cover
4- EoTech 512 plus a GG&G Infidel lense cover
5- Precision Armament M4-72 brake w/ washer kit
6- 1200 rounds of ZQI SS109
7- 7 New Pmags, 5 of the standard 30RD, 2 of the 40RD variety
8- LUMA safety switches, both sizes. To be all ambi and stuff, ya know?!

I guess now I just need to get home in June and put it all together. Really looking forward to some time at the range with this rifle!

Oh, because the question came up once already, "Why not just enjoy the rifle the way it is? You've never even shot it and you've ordered all this crap for it!" Well, the answer is very simple, I have a very limited time home before I have to go back to work, so whatever I want to have done to the rifle I had better have done quick! ;D


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: tavor hollow on May 22, 2016, 07:00:47 PM
Isn't it crazy we buy a gun next thing you no we have 2or $3000 wrapped up in it.happens to me.but the portability of the accessories kind of helps justify the gun.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: zoti on August 22, 2016, 12:10:53 AM
Where did you get the 3D model of the Tavor?

Post here all the modifications you made , DIY projects, accessories that work with the tavor etc...

I'll start with integrating your tape switch in the tavor hand guard:

1. Pop out the button from the hanguard.

2. Remove enough material from the back of the button so you can squeeze your tape switch behind it.

3. Put the button back and the switch behind it.

4. Done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxukQNGerxo&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxukQNGerxo&feature=youtu.be)

Just saw we now have our upgrade/new accessory sticky area - GREAT
How did you route the wire out to the light?  Did you put any protective heat sheath on it like discussed in other threads?  Can you add a picture of your finished light setup?

The wire routes out via the upper hanguard.
See post here http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=2570.0 (http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=2570.0) post #9.

I did not put a thermal sleeve on it because I just built it for this forum.You should use one.
I can put a tavor together with it and take pictures if you want...



Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: coolhand77 on November 10, 2016, 10:25:42 PM
hey, anybody mod their X95 handguard so they can mount the Tavor specific OSS can yet?
Edit: Looks like it butts right up against the handguard, NO space, and you have to remove the plastic bushing.
Edit2: Also, looks like the Super Sabra doesn't fit due to a difference with the actual bolt release button.  Anyone know if its safe to modify the button?  Looks like there is a piece of plastic reinforcement that gets in the way of a flat spot on the bottom of the trigger pack


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Aussie E on November 12, 2016, 07:21:55 PM
From my understanding Geissele will modify your trigger pack to work with the x95.

AE


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: coolhand77 on November 12, 2016, 11:25:01 PM
thanks, I'll have to look into that.  not that it NEEDS it, I was able to pull some nice, small clover leafs and single holds at 25 meters while sighting it in today


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Brianschwarm on April 16, 2017, 05:43:24 AM
Are there are serious weight reduction upgrades out there? I already have the short rail, foregrip, and slim buttpad.


Title: Re: STICKY:Tavor DIY projects, modifications,aftermarket parts & upgrades MEGATHREAD
Post by: Ceapea on October 02, 2017, 08:06:40 AM
Deleted. Wrong section for my question.