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Title: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Mnbullpup80 on September 02, 2017, 09:32:29 AM
Lithgow USA has been dead silent on this. Anxiously awaiting its arrival to the US market. Anybody have good news or recent info?


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: maleante on September 02, 2017, 07:37:38 PM
At least they're not following the DT marketing model...


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: xdmikey on September 03, 2017, 12:37:24 AM
+1 on that.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: dushan on September 03, 2017, 12:42:48 AM
As of Tuesday Josh Whi at Lithgow says no firm ship date   :-\


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: rtp on September 07, 2017, 10:00:20 PM
At least they're not following the DT marketing model...

Can fix.
(http://www.turnbacktogod.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/christmas-tree-pics-0203.jpg)
(http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/13256061_10156928720075416_7426466635069438056_n.jpg)
Send $!
Soon!

Close enough? :)


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: scstrain on September 08, 2017, 10:05:56 AM
I had sent a E Mail asking if listed weights are with or without the magazine.  Here was my reply:

"The weight listed is with a magazine. We are expecting to ship by the end of September or early October."

I received this E Mail reply on Aug. 19th.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: bravo619 on September 10, 2017, 09:59:50 PM
Man that is the first I've seen of this that's a awesome looking weapon. What is the damage to the wallet on this?


45acp... turning human garbage into useful fertilizer since 1911


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: dushan on September 10, 2017, 10:59:19 PM
Manticore Arms asked yesterday at Bullpup Shoot 2017

"Should be shipping to dealers and the public in November 2017 according to their guys"

https://www.facebook.com/ManticoreArms/posts/1600644413313066 (https://www.facebook.com/ManticoreArms/posts/1600644413313066)


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: dushan on September 11, 2017, 08:18:47 PM
F90 "export" is now F90MBR

(http://www.deagel.com/library1/medium/2017/m02017091100015.jpg)

https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/defence/press-release/modern-integrated-soldiers-will-rely-thaless-new-generation-assault (https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/defence/press-release/modern-integrated-soldiers-will-rely-thaless-new-generation-assault)

We'll see if this is the one we get


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Jack Flag on September 11, 2017, 08:36:20 PM
I hope not.....


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: dushan on September 13, 2017, 12:48:29 AM
New images of the F90MBR I just found

(https://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/europe/united_kingdom/exhibition/dsei_2017/pictures/DSEI_2017_Thales_introducing_new_generation_F90MBR_assault_rifl_001.jpg)

https://www.armyrecognition.com/dsei_2017_news_online_show_daily_coverage_report_u/dsei_2017_thales_introducing_new_generation_f90mbr_assault_rifle.html (https://www.armyrecognition.com/dsei_2017_news_online_show_daily_coverage_report_u/dsei_2017_thales_introducing_new_generation_f90mbr_assault_rifle.html)

(https://assets.shephardmedia.com/live/default/media/cache/images/images/article/AJW_1899/b7f4a8deeb203df8a9f95439f327694f.JPG)

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/dsei-2017-thales-pitches-new-f90-rifle-germany/ (https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/dsei-2017-thales-pitches-new-f90-rifle-germany/)


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Clarke-Sensei on September 13, 2017, 02:12:21 AM
New images of the F90MBR I just found

(https://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/europe/united_kingdom/exhibition/dsei_2017/pictures/DSEI_2017_Thales_introducing_new_generation_F90MBR_assault_rifl_001.jpg)

https://www.armyrecognition.com/dsei_2017_news_online_show_daily_coverage_report_u/dsei_2017_thales_introducing_new_generation_f90mbr_assault_rifle.html (https://www.armyrecognition.com/dsei_2017_news_online_show_daily_coverage_report_u/dsei_2017_thales_introducing_new_generation_f90mbr_assault_rifle.html)

(https://assets.shephardmedia.com/live/default/media/cache/images/images/article/AJW_1899/b7f4a8deeb203df8a9f95439f327694f.JPG)

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/dsei-2017-thales-pitches-new-f90-rifle-germany/ (https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/dsei-2017-thales-pitches-new-f90-rifle-germany/)

I honestly don't like how these look.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Mnbullpup80 on September 13, 2017, 09:38:54 PM
Count me in! Can't wait to get this in my hands.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: mpd3285 on September 14, 2017, 05:19:54 PM
Is that an ambi bolt release behind the magazine well and an ambi mag release on the front of the cutlass guard? Also, can't tell if those are AR15 PMAGs or the AUS type. Anybody know?


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: HBeretta on September 24, 2017, 11:42:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5jUxjqIlGg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5jUxjqIlGg)


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Hivedr. on September 25, 2017, 03:58:02 PM
I like the new slimmer butt stock redesign, less AUGish than the original F90/Atrax and more of it's own unique individual look. The redesign of the butt stock is most likely what is holding up the U.S. models release.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Tvfreakarms on September 25, 2017, 05:46:48 PM
I like.
But when ur shooting off hand don't take a breath 😂

Sent from my ZTE A2017U using Tapatalk



Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: BellatorInvictus on September 25, 2017, 09:06:16 PM
I like the new slimmer butt stock redesign, less AUGish than the original F90/Atrax and more of it's own unique individual look. The redesign of the butt stock is most likely what is holding up the U.S. models release.


I agree--this redesign looks phenomenal. Very sci-fi/futuristic.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: SHORT-N-SASSY on September 26, 2017, 04:15:15 AM
I like.
But when ur shooting off hand don't take a breath 😂

Sent from my ZTE A2017U using Tapatalk

And, then there's the problem of unwitting shooters with a big nose ---
(https://s26.postimg.org/yquzrydyh/Atrax.png)

(https://s26.postimg.org/6x4larjmx/nose.png)


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Mnbullpup80 on October 14, 2017, 09:44:15 AM
Crickets...winter is coming and I'm losing interest. Not sure the marketing strategy here or if there are any real plans for this rifle to hit the US market.  Should the new 7.62 tavor hit before this rifle, sorry Lithgow but you're going to the waaaaaaay back of the line.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: rtp on October 14, 2017, 01:49:10 PM
I like what I saw in the video - I love my AUG, but the redesigned stock is the only thing that might make me excited to go with AR/NATO mags...looks very well done and maybe it will eventually kick Steyr in the ass to get off of theirs.. 


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: AZAUG on October 14, 2017, 04:49:17 PM
I like what I saw in the video - I love my AUG, but the redesigned stock is the only thing that might make me excited to go with AR/NATO mags...looks very well done and maybe it will eventually kick Steyr in the ass to get off of theirs.. 


This.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Mnbullpup80 on October 19, 2017, 11:30:02 AM
Progress! Looks like a new edition has been added to the ATRAX lineup on Lithgow's website http://www.lithgowarms.com/f90mbr/


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Mnbullpup80 on November 19, 2017, 11:42:43 PM
Guess they are going the MDR route and taking preorders (although no pre-payment) without any timeline or communication plan.  I suppose it's time to move on.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: dushan on November 20, 2017, 03:03:20 AM
Lets hope that means they're closer to launch. They said they it would be Oct-Nov


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Hkbeltfed on November 20, 2017, 07:16:33 AM
Guess they are going the MDR route and taking preorders (although no pre-payment) without any timeline or communication plan.  I suppose it's time to move on.

I can't figure out what your issue is. How is this any different than a "be notified when in stock" alert?

Regardless, I don't think this is the gun for you.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Hijeffrey95 on December 11, 2017, 03:00:16 AM
Any updates?


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: THX1138 on December 11, 2017, 01:31:27 PM
Any updates?

At this point Lithgow is probably just waiting until SHOT show next month to update everyone.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: fadaldude on December 12, 2017, 07:46:43 PM
F90 "export" is now F90MBR

(http://www.deagel.com/library1/medium/2017/m02017091100015.jpg)

https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/defence/press-release/modern-integrated-soldiers-will-rely-thaless-new-generation-assault (https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/defence/press-release/modern-integrated-soldiers-will-rely-thaless-new-generation-assault)

We'll see if this is the one we get

The "C" clamp looks ridiculous.  He's going to burn the s*** out of his hand.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: racky on December 13, 2017, 12:04:06 AM
when lithgow first showed these back in 2013, I was hooked, but "outta sight-outta mind" so I forgot about them, But I like the look of the new slimmer butt stock and all the ambi-stuff ,AR mag release-ambi saftey,  &  ambi bolt release, its definitely gotten better looking with better ergo's, and the quick release of the barrel-bolt group is cool too, so I'm wondering about accuracy-trigger feel,& price, ....probably $2k,.....and they mentioned "OFFERED IN DIFFERENT CALIBERS....5.56 &  300 blk out,........SO HOW ABOUT 6.5 GRENDEL????,.....probably not,......I guess 6.5 grendel is just too expensive seeing how its made out of Unicorn Hooves,....maybe in a hundred years........But by then we'll be shooting M-43's/40 watt impulse rifles.,....OR Romulian Disrupters.     


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Mnbullpup80 on December 13, 2017, 10:25:14 PM
Here is the response to my inquiry on 12/11...

The team at Lithgow Arms USA are better to answer your question on the Atrax, I will forward your details to them. They are in the final stages of pre-production reviews and will be getting the Atrax into the USA market shortly.
 
Please forgive the delay in the Lithgow Arms USA team getting back to you, but they will respond as soon as they are able.
 
Kind regards


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Mnbullpup80 on January 05, 2018, 09:36:57 PM
Never did receive a response from lithgow USA and I don't see them as registered at shot show this year.  Bummer, I was really hoping that would be our opportunity for a meaningful update.  MAC also had a live stream this week of new products in 2018 where he indicated radio silence from lithgow USA as well.

https://n2a.goexposoftware.com/events/ss18/goExpo/exhibitor/listExhibitorProfiles.php


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: PjsSteyrAUG on January 15, 2018, 12:18:27 PM
I hope I'm wrong but I think there will be no Atrax coming to the USA.

Months ago I contacted them and inquired about getting set up as a dealer for them, they were excited to have me join their sales base.

Josh was great replying and answering my questions.

Tried contacting them a few times last few weeks with no response from them.

Also they aren't listed as a vendor for the Shot Show.

I was looking forward to getting a couple of these!

Anyone else have any info?

Thanks,
Pete  :o



Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Jack Flag on January 15, 2018, 06:27:42 PM
I hope you're wrong Pete.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: thehun on January 16, 2018, 04:05:27 PM
Yeah I was hoping to hear more from them this year...but nothing... :(


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: spyderco monkey on January 16, 2018, 08:35:53 PM
The people to contact I think would be DASAN - ATRAX was on display at their booth at SHOT last year, and I believe they are producing the Export version.

http://www.dasanusa.com/sub/sub0201.html


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: PjsSteyrAUG on January 17, 2018, 10:41:13 AM
Dasan is just a firearms part maker.

Last communication I had with Josh was in July, he said they should start shipping in September >>>

In a message dated 7/5/2017 9:16:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, josh@lithgowusa.com writes:
Hi Pete,

Currently we are looking to start shipping in September. Once I have the dealer set up information I will forward it over to you.

We will be offering the 16" barrel with the AUG magazine first.

It's cool that you have already worked with Lithgow.


Best Regards,

Josh

Joshua Whi
Director of Business Development
Lithgow Arms USA


Direct - 213.605.5971
2400 Chattahoochee Dr
Duluth, GA 30097
www.lithgowarms.com


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: PjsSteyrAUG on January 17, 2018, 08:05:39 PM
Ah great news! Just got an email from Josh. He said they are getting ready for Shot Show and will be there. And will have rifles by second quarter!

Below is his response>>

We are getting close but a few delays due to supplier issues. Looks like we should have rifles at the end of first quarter or early second quarter.

Will you be at SHOT? Would love to meet you and go over our rifles with you.



Best Regards,

Josh
 


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Mnbullpup80 on January 17, 2018, 08:36:50 PM
Are you sure this email is Josh from Lithgow and not Nick Young over at Desert Tech?


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: dushan on January 17, 2018, 09:49:28 PM
We are getting close but a few delays due to supplier issues. Looks like we should have rifles at the end of first quarter or early second quarter.

That's good news. Early second quarter so early third of fourth quarter though.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: PjsSteyrAUG on January 17, 2018, 10:55:10 PM
Are you sure this email is Josh from Lithgow and not Nick Young over at Desert Tech?

 {:-D} {:-D} {:-D}


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: mro2 on January 19, 2018, 01:03:22 AM
I can't wait to get one of these, I was in on the GB for the MDR, but after years of waiting I had to throw in the towel.
This will surely put a smile back on my face.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: spyderco monkey on January 20, 2018, 12:31:21 AM
Dasan is just a firearms part maker.


"One interesting thing Dasan showed was Thales Australia’s F90 rifle. Dasan made a contract with Thales and will soon be manufacturing this rifle, under license, in Korea. Dasan will be suggesting this rifle to Korean military, which is now considering replacement of the K1 and K2 rifles, which have been used since the early to mid-1980s and many of them now need replacement. Unlike the K1/K2 rifles, which basically are made with 1970~80s design concept, the F90 is a modern bullpup, so in terms of modernity this clearly has an edge. Nobody can be sure of how this can work with the considerably conservative ROK forces, but the very fact there’s a Korean competitor to S&T Motiv alone can be a very interesting factor in the Korean arms procurement scene."

http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=3685 (http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=3685)

Now, this may just be for the Korean military contract, but DASAN would be alogical partner for Thales in the US. It would also explain why the F90 is displayed at the DASAN booth, and the pitch guy doesn't have an Austrlian accent.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: spyderco monkey on January 25, 2018, 11:07:30 PM
I went to the DASAN booth today, and I confirmed that the Atrax will be made by DASAN in Georgia, through a mix of US, South Korean, and Australian parts.

They are hoping 2nd quarter 2018 release, and are considering producing the "Export" AR mag version in the future.

Only thing odd was that the F90's on display didn't have the integral shell deflector built into the stock the way the Austalian F90 does, hopefully the finalized version will incorporate that.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: dushan on January 25, 2018, 11:10:49 PM
spyderco monkey - Thanks for going and checking it out. Any other photos/info you gleamed?


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Earl_harbinger on January 25, 2018, 11:53:44 PM
"ATRAX by DASAN USA"
https://atraxrifle.com

The features still show the deflector - but it also says "The ATRAX is scheduled to hit dealer shelves Fall 2017."


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: spyderco monkey on January 26, 2018, 03:08:17 AM
spyderco monkey - Thanks for going and checking it out. Any other photos/info you gleamed?

Glad to help. I was there at 5pm and they were closing up, I'll try and stop by tomorrow and get some more info.

Really, it's a AUG that is 10oz lighter. With the rails available from Corvus now, I'd say the AUG makes more sense, at least until the F90 Export version is imported.




Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: spyderco monkey on January 26, 2018, 10:12:33 PM
Stopped by again today, not much more info to add.

One thing I did notice is the F90 has a pretty nice trigger. At least the one I tried, it's a true single stage with almost no creep - just a hard ~7lb wall and then a crisp break, with very little total travel.



Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: THX1138 on January 27, 2018, 07:16:08 PM
Only thing odd was that the F90's on display didn't have the integral shell deflector built into the stock the way the Austalian F90 does, hopefully the finalized version will incorporate that.

I think the case deflector is a snap-in design, but not certain. You can see the shelf and the notches at the rear portion of the ejection port. Hopefully it will be included with the rifles and not a separate add-on.

Thanks for the pictures and updates. I'm kinda disappointed they're using a plain A2 flash hider. I was hoping for the Aussie tulip style, but I know its 922 BS. Another takeaway is that it appears they'll be using the bolt carrier as the serialized part.



Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: thehun on January 31, 2018, 09:27:55 AM
There is hope. I really want the Atrax to come out.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Tvfreakarms on January 31, 2018, 01:33:43 PM
There hasn't been a peep about the atrax. Was there any info about it at this yrs shot show?

LLAP



Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: dushan on January 31, 2018, 02:37:00 PM
"[SHOT 2018] Lithgow Atrax IN PRODUCTION in USA Now"

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/01/30/shot-2018-lithgow-atrax-production-usa-now/ (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/01/30/shot-2018-lithgow-atrax-production-usa-now/)


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: thehun on February 11, 2018, 08:49:43 AM
Have they released potential price points?


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Jack Flag on February 11, 2018, 09:11:51 PM
I've looked. I haven't seen prices anywhere yet.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Tvfreakarms on February 11, 2018, 09:30:27 PM
Expect the price to be around 2k. It seems the norm these days

LLAP



Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Jandjrs on February 12, 2018, 07:45:38 PM
https://bullpupforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=d0s1omgec0m8cuscq3nmtjgt73&topic=11949.msg123854#msg123854

Good morning, all.

I received an e-mail last night from Josh Whi of Lithgow.  All seems in good order.  The Atrax is still on schedule for September delivery with an MSRP of $1999, and he has my name on the pre-order list.

I wish I had more to share, but, at the very least, we know the Atrax is still slated to make its debut in September.

Take care, and have a great day.
Aaron



Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Mnbullpup80 on March 05, 2018, 07:42:16 AM
Brownells has a pre-order up and running over at brownells.com if anyone has been holding their breath...guess this means we are close?


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Ditcher on March 05, 2018, 02:03:14 PM
Brownells has a pre-order up and running over at brownells.com if anyone has been holding their breath...guess this means we are close?

From what I was told by someone at Brownell they are excepting to ship the Atrax starting in April.  Now I think about it she didn't say what year!  Dangit!


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: spyderco monkey on March 06, 2018, 03:53:28 AM
I wonder if the Atrax trigger pack is compatible with the AUG? It was definitely crisper then the AUG trigger pack.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: The West Virginian on March 06, 2018, 04:37:37 PM
Brownells has a pre-order up and running over at brownells.com if anyone has been holding their breath...guess this means we are close?

From what I was told by someone at Brownell they are excepting to ship the Atrax starting in April.  Now I think about it she didn't say what year!  Dangit!

Just spoke with Jan at Brownells. First or second week of April this year is their tentative receiving date. I am stoked!


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: Ditcher on March 06, 2018, 10:27:09 PM
I wonder if the Atrax trigger pack is compatible with the AUG? It was definitely crisper then the AUG trigger pack.

From the MAC video I saw it looks almost the same.


Title: Re: Where is the Atrax?
Post by: metinemre on March 16, 2018, 07:40:52 PM
This is the reply i got from Brownells today

``
Thank you for contacting Brownells. The item 100-026-617 ATRAX BULLPUP 5.56 16  BLACK, is a back loading rifle and currently we are only offering the firearm in black. We are anticipating, but no guarantees, that it will be available around the beginning to middle part of May.

Thank you for shopping with Brownells.

Ryan``