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Title: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: RabbitSlayer on July 28, 2017, 09:15:50 PM
Curious what the overall average is.

Personally...

I'm still running an Aimpoint pro mainly for it's durability.  Although I plan on testing a Trijicon Accupoint 1-4 soon, If I find it is as fast as the Aimpoint, I'll probably toss the Aimpoint on a different gun.

Side question/topic, anyone Abuse the Trijicon Accupoint at all?  I wonder how durable they are.  Vortex might an edge in that department for the warranty, but I think Trijicon has the edge in glass quality.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: Aussie E on July 28, 2017, 09:35:47 PM
Voted both. Have a Elcan Spectre DS on my Tavor SAR and a MH-1 on my X95. So technically it's 66% RDS and 33% magnified.

AE


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: RabbitSlayer on July 28, 2017, 09:46:18 PM
Voted both. Have a Elcan Spectre DS on my Tavor SAR and a MH-1 on my X95. So technically it's 66% RDS and 33% magnified.

AE

Is there one you prefer over the other?


Title: Re:
Post by: tattooo on July 28, 2017, 09:58:12 PM
Mepro 21 with bullseye reticle


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: Jwill on July 28, 2017, 09:59:05 PM
I just got a DI Optical EG1C for mine and I'm pretty happy with it so far. I did go back to the stock top rail and the sight is an absolute co-witness with the back up irons.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: Beach Bill on July 28, 2017, 10:40:29 PM
I voted for both also. I have an EOTech on my 9mm Tavor, and 1-4x magnified optics on my two 223 Tavors.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: adoloris on July 28, 2017, 10:53:24 PM
Voted all 3 as I often co-witness my BUIS and run a Mepro RDS with an EoTech G33 on flip to side mount on my X95.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: Shogun on July 28, 2017, 11:12:04 PM
On my X95 I run a Trijicon MRO on a LaRue 1/3 co-witness QD mount. Works great out past 200 yds.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: adoloris on July 29, 2017, 12:27:22 AM
On my X95 I run a Trijicon MRO on a LaRue 1/3 co-witness QD mount. Works great out past 200 yds.
You must have young eyes.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: paulky_2000 on July 29, 2017, 01:34:57 AM
I'm thinking about switching to an ACOG....but this is working quite nicely;

(http://i.imgur.com/keyhg63.jpg)


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: Rastoff on July 29, 2017, 01:45:22 AM
I'm a big fan of the ACOG.

So far, I've used:
  • Vortex Viper PST 1-4x24
  • Trijicon RM08G (RMR with Green 12MOA Traingle)
  • Trijicon MRO
  • Trijicon TA33R-8 (fixed 3x ACOG)

I just keep coming back to the ACOG. So clear and bright and easy to use.

Anyone want an MRO?



Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: RabbitSlayer on July 29, 2017, 02:41:04 AM
I'm thinking about switching to an ACOG....but this is working quite nicely;

(http://i.imgur.com/keyhg63.jpg)

Pretty nice looking setup you got there.
Does that say infidel by your mag well?


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: Aussie E on July 29, 2017, 09:19:29 AM
Voted both. Have a Elcan Spectre DS on my Tavor SAR and a MH-1 on my X95. So technically it's 66% RDS and 33% magnified.

AE

Is there one you prefer over the other?

Other than weight the Elcan is perfection. Not a big fan of the MH-1 and am currently looking to go back to an Eotech on the X95.

AE


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: paulky_2000 on July 29, 2017, 10:33:45 AM
Pretty nice looking setup you got there.
Does that say infidel by your mag well?

Thank you very much!

It does indeed!  ;)


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: sentinel on July 29, 2017, 11:12:27 AM
Running a Trijicon TA31 RCO on my SAR and a Mepro RDS Pro on my X95


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: silentrunning on July 29, 2017, 12:48:26 PM
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Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: Shogun on July 29, 2017, 02:03:15 PM
Quote
You must have young eyes.
Not at all. I'm 54 but my eyes are holding up fairly well. I do have to wear glasses for extreme distance but other than that, I'm gtg. After so many decades of using irons, It's kind of instinctive.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: BBMW on July 29, 2017, 03:11:47 PM
Anyone running a Vortex Strike Eagle, or Primary Arms 1-6x?


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: houndog on July 29, 2017, 04:29:49 PM
Still awaiting delivery of my Tavor, but I'm going to start with a Primary Arms 3x and see how it works.  I also have a spare red dot I can throw on it if I don't like the PA.

To last poster, if you are considering a 1-4x or 1x6x, you might look at SWFA.  I have the 1-4 on a couple of AR's and like it a lot.  I also have a 1-6x on an AR and honestly, even though it's supposedly HD glass I like it less.  Also, if you have the $$$ Vortex makes an extremely good 1-6x scope, although it is heavy and expensive.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: ColdDeadHand on July 29, 2017, 05:08:24 PM
I switched from an EOTech to a Primary Arms 2.5X prism because I wanted something simple and rugged that didn't require a battery.  And didn't cost as much as an ACOG.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: RabbitSlayer on July 29, 2017, 10:56:48 PM
Anyone running a Vortex Strike Eagle, or Primary Arms 1-6x?


I run a strike eagle on an AR, it's decent.  Works well, not very clear glass in my opinion.
For the tavor I would personally use something nicer, for 200$ more you can get a Trijicon accupower or a used acog.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: BullpupT on July 30, 2017, 06:54:23 AM
I was running a TA11 acog for awhile but it was to large on a bullpup platform for my tastes. I use an MRO and sometimes a thermal unit.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: tavor hollow on July 30, 2017, 08:44:45 AM
Tuesday is rabbit,rabbit,rabbit! If you listen to Bob& Tom.once again the optics question ...if I was just a city boy who sat in an apartment and had to sneak my gun outside to my car, and thought there would never be a shooter on a bridge on a hiway. Or if I was only going to have a shooter 10 feet away because I was a cop who kicked in my next victims door oops wrong address ( failed mission plan) or its not a emp induced SHTF event. I would try a aimpoint or trijicon mro. But my imaginary world is much bigger and my lack of skills makes me rely and trust my equipment so vortex viper PSt 1-4, trijicon rs27 1-8, or fiber optic tr24 1-4. If I get a 308 tavor the 1-8 will have a new home. Many people say they can hit with their red dot 400+ yards.I guess if your on a range with an easy color to see target. At 300 a grey with light black faded lines and you'll be searching the brush for it. I've also seen people shoot a keltec sub 2000 in 9 mm over 400 yards.so maybe I should get rid of the tavor because I saw that? That's optimum! Anyways many things are out of our control old guys with bad eyes.good gear make good crutches. Ive said enough ...have a good day.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: fatty on July 30, 2017, 12:50:53 PM
Acog TA33.  Works great


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: DILLIGAF on July 30, 2017, 04:42:11 PM
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Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: JRKrejsa on July 31, 2017, 05:46:29 AM
Aimpoint M2.  Old, but very reliable.  I can keep everything on a paper plate with it at 200 yards.

No issues with many bumps and other abuse .


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: BigDave76 on July 31, 2017, 08:50:46 AM


I use a SPARC AR. The lower 1/3 mounting height = absolute co-witness for the X95.

Edit: Just came back too see this thing is way oversized. Sorry if I messed up the thread. I'll repost it later with the right size.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: RabbitSlayer on July 31, 2017, 04:29:36 PM
You guys really need to resize your pics before posting on this site.  Everyone posts giant pictures that ruin the format of the forum.

Here use this site, shrink your pictures them replace the images.
https://postimages.org/


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: BullpupT on July 31, 2017, 04:36:33 PM
You guys really need to resize your pics before posting on this site.  Everyone posts giant pictures that ruin the format of the forum.

Here use this site, shrink your pictures them replace the images.
https://postimages.org/

1+++++

Such a PIA distraction. Delete and resize or no one will look at the thread anymore.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: RabbitSlayer on July 31, 2017, 06:36:18 PM
You guys really need to resize your pics before posting on this site.  Everyone posts giant pictures that ruin the format of the forum.

Here use this site, shrink your pictures them replace the images.
https://postimages.org/

1+++++

Such a PIA distraction. Delete and resize or no one will look at the thread anymore.

Lol yup, it's really annoying.  It doesn't matter if I am using my phone or computer, those giant images make the thread look like s***.

This site needs a moderator who's sole purpose is to fix all the gigantic images, or at least delete them and tell the poster to resize their image.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: tavor hollow on August 01, 2017, 06:46:43 PM
Rabbit....sage dynamics does a drop test on a trijicon accupower 1-4 well you may have seen it pull up on you tube I still like the fiber optic tr24 1-4 they make a tr25 I think... it is fiber optic 1-6 . I picked up my 1-4 about 4 years ago never list zero .for just over $700. That's pretty cheap really. I use a small led light so I controll my dark condition reticle.  I saw an aftermarket light used on mepro i was trying to run down .Part of the drop test was 14'. I like acogs but to me they're limiting. More about status like a Harley.I like Yamaha's bred to race.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: Rastoff on August 02, 2017, 02:14:04 AM
Anyone running a Vortex Strike Eagle, or Primary Arms 1-6x?
I had a Vortex Viper PST and liked it very much. Still, the ACOG is much more durable and half the weight and size. I came to the realization that I never changed the magnification on the Vortex anyway so...ACOG it is.

Before you ask, yes, they're expensive. I saved for a few months, sold some stuff and bought used. It's worth the wait.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: RabbitSlayer on August 02, 2017, 05:50:18 AM
Anyone running a Vortex Strike Eagle, or Primary Arms 1-6x?
I had a Vortex Viper PST and liked it very much. Still, the ACOG is much more durable and half the weight and size. I came to the realization that I never changed the magnification on the Vortex anyway so...ACOG it is.

Before you ask, yes, they're expensive. I saved for a few months, sold some stuff and bought used. It's worth the wait.

I find that with my variable power scopes I often change magnification.  I really love being able to go from 1x to 4x.
Rapid fire on 1x feels like a red dot, and with 4x you can really reach out and touch things on the first shot, where as with a red dot I would usually have to "walk my shots in".

An acog would be nice because you always know what to expect when you look through the glass, and occasionally with my variables I look through expecting 1x only to realize it's on 4x, and for a brief second I am slightly disoriented, which is 100% user error  ;D



Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: cciman on August 03, 2017, 05:28:19 PM
Tried the aimpoint pro, so far so good with reliable hits out to 300 yrds.

Downside is that it is bulky and heavy.  Will be trialing the Holosun (Eotech type reticle) soon-- much lighter and less bulkier.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: RabbitSlayer on August 03, 2017, 05:37:48 PM
Tried the aimpoint pro, so far so good with reliable hits out to 300 yrds.

Downside is that it is bulky and heavy.  Will be trialing the Holosun (Eotech type reticle) soon-- much lighter and less bulkier.

You could always get an Aimpoint micro if you want something smaller.

Holosun and Primary arms optics will never be as reliable, robust, or as tough as the Aimpoints.  Aimpoints are one of the most robust optics on the market.

If you like the Holosun right on, but it is a downgrade from aimpoint.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: Shooter58 on August 03, 2017, 06:34:05 PM
Aim point micro lives on the X95. I recently put a Holosun on an AR 15
pistol. Got to admit that I am impressed with the Holosun. Would never give up the micro but the Holosun would be a great choice on a budget.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: RabbitSlayer on August 03, 2017, 06:41:34 PM
Aim point micro lives on the X95. I recently put a Holosun on an AR 15
pistol. Got to admit that I am impressed with the Holosun. Would never give up the micro but the Holosun would be a great choice on a budget.


Sweet AR pistol you got there.
I've had great luck with PSA and Aero.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: silentrunning on August 03, 2017, 09:29:04 PM
Scope Burris 1x4
Irons Warner Rear .....IWI front post


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: Rastoff on August 03, 2017, 11:03:59 PM
An acog would be nice because you always know what to expect when you look through the glass, and occasionally with my variables I look through expecting 1x only to realize it's on 4x, and for a brief second I am slightly disoriented, which is 100% user error  ;D
I never made that error, but I totally see how it could happen. I never thought about this before. I will keep this little tid bit in my back pocket for discussions about variable power scopes on CQB type rifles.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: Shooter58 on August 04, 2017, 07:03:12 AM
Aim point micro lives on the X95. I recently put a Holosun on an AR 15
pistol. Got to admit that I am impressed with the Holosun. Would never give up the micro but the Holosun would be a great choice on a budget.


Sweet AR pistol you got there.
I've had great luck with PSA and Aero.

Thanks. Has run flawless since I put it together.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: YunGunz120 on August 04, 2017, 03:43:41 PM
Mako RDS with a Vortex Magnifier.  Never liked the Acog even when we were issued them.  Everyone has their own taste, make do with what ya like. lol.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: Rastoff on August 04, 2017, 05:39:42 PM
Never liked the Acog even when we were issued them.
What was it about the ACOG that you didn't like?


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: rbuzz on August 06, 2017, 09:33:26 AM
I used to run an EOTech but with EOTech's problems, I took advantage of the buyback and replaced it with a Hartman MH1, but retained the EOTech 3X magnifier. Very satisfied with the combination.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: Rastoff on August 06, 2017, 10:56:44 AM
How's the battery life on that Hartman? It seems like it would be less than the EOTech.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: YunGunz120 on August 06, 2017, 11:23:26 AM
Never liked the Acog even when we were issued them.
What was it about the ACOG that you didn't like?

At the time we focused heavy on CQB, and like most things, never enough time to really adjust or try out different sights. We had one go bad with a walking redical, 1 of hundreds, but somehow I was one of the few to play with it. So stuck back with my massive MARS V. And I like the Tavor for its different taste in battle style. Over time I have no hate for the ACOG, but my mind set was else where, and the red dot was satisfying that nature. If that makes sense. Lol


Title: Re:
Post by: Hit Factor on August 06, 2017, 01:21:14 PM
Currently have a Trijicon MRO that's been rock solid. I'm looking at the TA44 ACOG, 1.5 fixed power, might agree with my old eyes better (astigmatism is a problem for me). I've shot quite a feww matches with the x95 this summer.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: rbuzz on August 07, 2017, 10:20:55 AM
How's the battery life on that Hartman? It seems like it would be less than the EOTech.
Sorry but I can't really give you an answer on that yet. I've had it for a few months but haven't had a chance to really use it as much as I'd like. The Hartman has an internal battery that you can recharge using a USB charger, plus it has a CR123 backup battery that kicks in if the internal battery runs out. I really haven't had the opportunity to test it to see how long the rechargeable battery lasts before it needs charging again.
Since the Hartman has a sleep mode I would expect the battery life should be pretty good, and then when the main battery goes low, you still have the backup battery. It takes about 2 hours to charge the main battery and you get a flashing light about 2 hours to warn you before the charge runs out. At first I had reservations about having a rechargeable battery as it's power source, but more and more I can see the advantage.
I'm going to have to fully charge it and then put it in storage and see just how long the battery life is. I don't know if it (or anything) will ever approach the battery life of an Aimpoint, but I don't foresee a problem. The Hartman just has so many features that I like that it's fast becoming my favorite sight. It has just about the widest range of view I've ever seen and the reticle is great for both close range as well as more distant shots needing more accuracy since it has a small 2 MOA center dot. In a way it's similar to the reticle on an EOTech except that instead of the dot in a circle, the Hartman uses a dot surrounded by two short horizontal lines and one vertical line instead. In certain cases, the circle in a dot of the EOTech could block part of the target but with the Hartman's reticle that isn't a problem, plus with the horizontal and vertical lines it's a little easier to pick up, for me at least.
I've always like the reticle on the EOTech and found it easier to pick up quicker than just a single red dot, but when EOTech announced it's problems with reticle shift I decided to take advantage of their buyback program and try something new. I wasn't aware of any problem with reticle shift on my EXPS2's, although on one of them part of the reticle was beginning to fade out. For me it was the perfect chance to replace them with something new and so far the Hartman has been great. Time will tell.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: h8louzn on August 08, 2017, 07:42:01 PM
Well im new here and took off my Eotech 512 and replaced it with a ta-11. I know its big and heavy but wow.. Eotech  is now up for sale..


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: BullpupT on August 08, 2017, 07:55:52 PM
Well im new here and took off my Eotech 512 and replaced it with a ta-11. I know its big and heavy but wow.. Eotech  is now up for sale..

Yup... I love my TA11. Crystal clear optics from edge to edge and a MUCH better eye relief compared to the 4x actually acogs


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: Rastoff on August 08, 2017, 10:20:07 PM
I've always like the reticle on the EOTech and found it easier to pick up quicker than just a single red dot, but when EOTech announced it's problems with reticle shift I decided to take advantage of their buyback program and try something new.
The reticle shift would only show up in extreme temperature changes. They have since fixed the issue, but I would have taken the buy back program as well.

I also love the reticle in the EOTech. Much faster than anything else I've used. Alas, my eyes are not what they used to be and I'm much happier with magnification. I also like the lack of batteries in the ACOG.

I've seen a couple of reviews of the Hartman and it sounds like a great optic. I would love to play with one, but I know I'd go back to the ACOG anyway so, I don't think I'll get one. Please keep us informed as you gain experience.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: iiiwildfireiii on August 09, 2017, 02:37:38 PM
Anyone running a Vortex Strike Eagle, or Primary Arms 1-6x?
I had a Vortex Viper PST and liked it very much. Still, the ACOG is much more durable and half the weight and size. I came to the realization that I never changed the magnification on the Vortex anyway so...ACOG it is.

Before you ask, yes, they're expensive. I saved for a few months, sold some stuff and bought used. It's worth the wait.

I find that with my variable power scopes I often change magnification.  I really love being able to go from 1x to 4x.
Rapid fire on 1x feels like a red dot, and with 4x you can really reach out and touch things on the first shot, where as with a red dot I would usually have to "walk my shots in".

An acog would be nice because you always know what to expect when you look through the glass, and occasionally with my variables I look through expecting 1x only to realize it's on 4x, and for a brief second I am slightly disoriented, which is 100% user error  ;D



I run a Vortex Viper PST 1-4 on mine and use the Vortex Switchview throw lever with it.  Not only does it make changing magnification a breeze, you also know what magnification the scope is on just by looking where the throw lever sticks out.  If it's on the left, its 1x, if its far to the right, its 4x.  Easy peasy.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: Mindless-Focus on August 09, 2017, 11:07:00 PM
I run Trijicon MROs on mine. Will try a Vortex Strike Eagle on the Tavor 7 when I get one.


Title: Re: What kind of optic do you run on your Tavor?
Post by: rbuzz on August 10, 2017, 09:59:46 AM
Anyone running a Vortex Strike Eagle, or Primary Arms 1-6x?
I had 2 EOTech EXPS2 that I returned to EOTech when they were offering their buyback program. I was always a big fan of the EOTech, but one of them started to show a little fade in the circle section of the reticle and that prompted me to send them back and try something new.
Like I mentioned in an earlier post, I decided to run a Hartman MH1 on my Tavor SAR. I thought that the red dot was more in line with the close quarter combat use of the Tavor, plus the Hartman just looked like a cool optic with a lot of features. The fact that it was designed by Mikey Hartman, the person who for years trained Israli Defense Forces and was an IDF sniper was also a plus. I combined the Hartman with my EOTech 3x magnifier and am so far well satisfied with the results.
For the second EOTech that I had on my AR, I decided to go with the Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6X mainly because of two things. First like many of us, my eyes aren't quite as sharp as they used to be and a magnified scope I thought would be a benefit. Secondly, the AR is perceived more of a long range weapon, even though it also is used at close quarters also. But since my AR was a S&W M&P MOE mid length version, I thought that it was maybe more suited for longer ranges. The Strike Eagle handles the close quarters very well with zero magnification, but with the 6X also allows you to reach out and touch targets at longer ranges more accurately than can be done with a red dot. In short , it offers the best of both worlds.
So far I am very happy with the results. The glass is crystal clear with no abnormalities that I can see. On 1X magnification it's probably not quite as quick to pick up the reticle as a red dot, but close. At 6X there is no comparison to a red dot. The image is bright and clear and you can pick out details with the reticle that would normally be obscured by the red dot.
For me the Vortex has been a happy addition to my AR. On the downside, it's not Mil-spec as is an Aimpoint or Trijicon, but in real life I can get by with that, but on the upside it is guaranteed for life. It's nice to know that if anything ever goes wrong with it, Vortex will take care of me. To me it was money well spent and I have to admit, I don't miss the EOTech at all. 
The only real downside is that I purchased my 1-6X before Vortex announced their new 1-8X version of the Strike Eagle.  If 6X is good, then 8X should be even better.