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Title: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: HBeretta on May 15, 2017, 07:33:18 PM
https://www.facebook.com/deserttechHQ/videos/1513171178713619/ (https://www.facebook.com/deserttechHQ/videos/1513171178713619/)


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Ditcher on May 15, 2017, 08:53:56 PM
Only video I want to see are ejection chutes pouring in!
I want to see Nick standing there with a hand full of ejection chute as if it was dollar bill at a strip 
club and making it rain!


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: sampitt on May 15, 2017, 10:10:32 PM
Only video I want to see are ejection chutes pouring in!

+1


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: BrianK on May 16, 2017, 01:07:43 AM
Thanks for that HB'. Yeah, If I was in charge of DT they'd be building rifles and just waiting on subcontractors to finish them with their minor parts. I expect a lot of rifles to ship once the SC gets their act in gear. I don't know that I would have been that tolerant of a subcontractor. I think they owe DT bigtime. Maybe that was why DT stuck with them. There's so much we aren't privy to and frankly isn't our business to know.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: bpguy on May 16, 2017, 08:50:15 AM
To another announcement of a shipping delay?


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Slateman on May 16, 2017, 12:13:51 PM
Just a quick, behind the scenes vid on some of their manufacturing and raw parts.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Slateman on May 16, 2017, 12:14:50 PM
I hope so


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: bsmith918 on May 16, 2017, 12:16:33 PM
Thanks for that HB'. Yeah, If I was in charge of DT they'd be building rifles and just waiting on subcontractors to finish them with their minor parts. I expect a lot of rifles to ship once the SC gets their act in gear. I don't know that I would have been that tolerant of a subcontractor. I think they owe DT bigtime. Maybe that was why DT stuck with them. There's so much we aren't privy to and frankly isn't our business to know.

You are assuming that DT hasn't been lying the entire time and using a subcontractor as a cover, which is a big assumption.  I'm guessing there will be more delays.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: HBeretta on May 16, 2017, 03:50:14 PM
Thanks for that HB'. Yeah, If I was in charge of DT they'd be building rifles and just waiting on subcontractors to finish them with their minor parts. I expect a lot of rifles to ship once the SC gets their act in gear. I don't know that I would have been that tolerant of a subcontractor. I think they owe DT bigtime. Maybe that was why DT stuck with them. There's so much we aren't privy to and frankly isn't our business to know.

You are assuming that DT hasn't been lying the entire time and using a subcontractor as a cover, which is a big assumption.  I'm guessing there will be more delays.

it's all assumption.  citing vendor delays as reason why the rifle hasn't launched as of late is entirely plausible.  of course, DT will never get the benefit of the doubt due to their transgressions that began with them stating the gun would ship 2nd quarter 2016.  we can only speculate and have.

my impression is that the gun should start shipping in june 2017(<<haha had to)...one could only hope anyway.  at least the question was asked about 44mins in on the link below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOQTG7CAJgo&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOQTG7CAJgo&feature=youtu.be)

 


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Ditcher on May 16, 2017, 07:00:15 PM
Yeah they said they should start shipping next month but didn't give a day. So they could have bought them selves about 6 weeks.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: photog22740 on May 16, 2017, 07:15:21 PM
Yeah they said they should start shipping next month but didn't give a day. So they could have bought them selves about 6 weeks.

Did i miss something...announced another delay?


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: davek on May 16, 2017, 10:28:11 PM
They get half way closer to shipping every week - and always will


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Dragon01 on May 16, 2017, 10:48:38 PM
They get half way closer to shipping every week - and always will

Are you referencing Zeno's dichotomy paradox on Bullpup Forum? Color me impressed!


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Dragoon on May 16, 2017, 11:17:57 PM
Well only about two weeks left this month, so I REALLY hope they're close to ship. The more MDR videos I see the more I think it's closer to completion (regardless if true or not).


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Whoops on May 16, 2017, 11:50:30 PM
They get half way closer to shipping every week - and always will

Are you referencing Zeno's dichotomy paradox on Bullpup Forum? Color me impressed!

For real I almost shat myself when I saw that. We should have a philosophy section on here (no politics just pretentiousness).


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: slowcorrado on May 17, 2017, 12:55:10 AM
*Just registering my opinion*

I don't have the feeling we're getting close.  The machine work looks nice though.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: kfeltenberger on May 17, 2017, 08:18:59 PM
They get half way closer to shipping every week - and always will

Are you referencing Zeno's dichotomy paradox on Bullpup Forum? Color me impressed!

Impressive, both of you!


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Glorfindel on May 17, 2017, 09:52:04 PM
no politics just pretentiousness

Haha!


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Rabies on May 17, 2017, 10:12:24 PM
I think we should stay the course, pretentiousness mixed with politics.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: JesseJames38 on May 18, 2017, 03:32:32 AM
As much as I like getting the videos. and things looking better. The build of the rifle at the NRA show looks great. I really am hoping this is the month they start to ship.  Eather way we are getting close to them announcing they are releasing the rifles and they are being shipped out.   Or, We have run into some unforeseen issues and we will be delayed for .................... time.      From there may 1st update they said the rifles will be shipping in the 2nd or 3rd week of May, and we are now in that 3rd week with no news of shipping, getting ready to ship..  But I will keep waiting.

Jesse.     




Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Glorfindel on May 18, 2017, 04:10:55 PM
I have the feeling that we're getting close-ish, but I think we'll still see more delays. My prediction is shipping late July or early August. I have two personal deadlines. The first deadline is soft: I expect my 308 suppressor to have finished paying its debt to society by the end of August and if I don't have an MDR by then I'll be sorely tempted to jump ship, probably to the POF Revolution. My hard deadline is November, which is when I expect to have the land cleared for a 300 yard range on my property. If I don't have my MDR by then, that rifle's budget will go someplace else for sure, again, probably the Revolution. So I'm okay at least until August.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: spector762 on May 18, 2017, 04:38:32 PM
i felt this way in march but with dt i almost cant believe that even the june ship dates will be met i mean even the reviewers still haven't got theirs yet


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: HBeretta on May 18, 2017, 04:46:23 PM
i mean even the reviewers still haven't got theirs yet

which still baffles me...i mean maybe a handful of major youtube channels out there tops.  all you have to do though is send to one.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: spector762 on May 18, 2017, 05:15:19 PM
i mean even the reviewers still haven't got theirs yet

which still baffles me...i mean maybe a handful of major youtube channels out there tops.  all you have to do though is send to one.
exactly !!! you mean to tell me you cant even eek one gun out to one reviewer it makes no sense  !!!   


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Ditcher on May 18, 2017, 07:11:54 PM
You'll know you're close when you hear something from Sgt_P.  I Emailed him a week ago to see if he had anything new and I never got a response.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: kfeltenberger on May 18, 2017, 08:07:58 PM
i mean even the reviewers still haven't got theirs yet

which still baffles me...i mean maybe a handful of major youtube channels out there tops.  all you have to do though is send to one.
exactly !!! you mean to tell me you cant even eek one gun out to one reviewer it makes no sense  !!!   

Until the reviewers actually post a review, we really don't know whether they have one for review or when they got it.  In any event, they're probably bound by an NDA with an embargo in place until DT releases them.  So not seeing or hearing anything from "reviewers" means nothing at this point, because even if they had one, they probably couldn't comment on it.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: spector762 on May 18, 2017, 08:59:42 PM
i mean even the reviewers still haven't got theirs yet

which still baffles me...i mean maybe a handful of major youtube channels out there tops.  all you have to do though is send to one.
exactly !!! you mean to tell me you cant even eek one gun out to one reviewer it makes no sense  !!!  
ok so honestly from dt point of view what does it benefit them keeping these guys silent especially if there supposed to be close to release they could bring more revenue in

Until the reviewers actually post a review, we really don't know whether they have one for review or when they got it.  In any event, they're probably bound by an NDA with an embargo in place until DT releases them.  So not seeing or hearing anything from "reviewers" means nothing at this point, because even if they had one, they probably couldn't comment on it.
ok so honestly from dt point of view what does it benefit them keeping these guys silent especially if there supposed to be close to release they could bring more revenue in


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: kfeltenberger on May 18, 2017, 09:32:56 PM
ok so honestly from dt point of view what does it benefit them keeping these guys silent especially if there supposed to be close to release they could bring more revenue in

Control of the narrative and preventing that narrative from starting until they are ready to release the rifles to the general consumer.  Consider this...they're already getting tossed in the woodchipper because they built up the consumer's anticipation and then had one delay after another.  Now, imagine half a dozen reviewers all drop videos on the MDR and something sets back the schedule?  It would build even more resentment in the consumer's eye and the narrative would move from objectively discussing the product to subjectively discussing the situation.

It's all about controlling the narrative; if I was releasing a new product, I wouldn't allow *anyone* to post a review (of a product my company sent them for review) until I saw with my own eyes my shipping manager close and lock the door on the truck that was taking the product to the distributors or to the UPS hub for shipment.  And even then I might wait 24 hours and make sure that the product was on the way.

DT has stumbled so much with the MDR rollout that the actual launch has to go off without a hitch.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: spector762 on May 18, 2017, 10:11:49 PM
ok so honestly from dt point of view what does it benefit them keeping these guys silent especially if there supposed to be close to release they could bring more revenue in

Control of the narrative and preventing that narrative from starting until they are ready to release the rifles to the general consumer.  Consider this...they're already getting tossed in the woodchipper because they built up the consumer's anticipation and then had one delay after another.  Now, imagine half a dozen reviewers all drop videos on the MDR and something sets back the schedule?  It would build even more resentment in the consumer's eye and the narrative would move from objectively discussing the product to subjectively discussing the situation.

It's all about controlling the narrative; if I was releasing a new product, I wouldn't allow *anyone* to post a review (of a product my company sent them for review) until I saw with my own eyes my shipping manager close and lock the door on the truck that was taking the product to the distributors or to the UPS hub for shipment.  And even then I might wait 24 hours and make sure that the product was on the way.

DT has stumbled so much with the MDR rollout that the actual launch has to go off without a hitch.
ok yea that does make sense to be honest  hope they are planning on  shipping the gun right to the customers and reviewers at the same time im so sick of waiting and drooling   over pics


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Potss on May 18, 2017, 11:29:59 PM
Agreed, but the reviewers should have their guns by now to do in depth testing that we deserve to know as consumers.  It takes time to do 1k+ rounds, proper accuracy testing with various match loads/work up a proper handload, environmental testing, etc.  Just do what the video games industry and many others do: release review copies 2-4 weeks early, and have a very strict NDA that lifts the day the MDR ships.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Steelviper on May 19, 2017, 12:02:18 AM
I have the feeling that we're getting close-ish, but I think we'll still see more delays. My prediction is shipping late July or early August. I have two personal deadlines. The first deadline is soft: I expect my 308 suppressor to have finished paying its debt to society by the end of August and if I don't have an MDR by then I'll be sorely tempted to jump ship, probably to the POF Revolution. My hard deadline is November, which is when I expect to have the land cleared for a 300 yard range on my property. If I don't have my MDR by then, that rifle's budget will go someplace else for sure, again, probably the Revolution. So I'm okay at least until August.

Wow agree with you 100%. My drop dead date is my agencies' next rifle qualification this winter. Probably some time after September. By then I will have to have selected my .308 rifle. If no MDR by then- I will be forced into going with the P.O.F. Revolution (maybe by then they'll have an 18" variant)

(https://media.licdn.com/media/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAQJAAAAJGVhNTNjMmM2LTM3YjEtNDVkYi1hN2YyLTU0YmY2ZjkyMjgwMQ.png)
(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/c110.0.860.860/12479131_1578296519165922_195544037_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTIzMDc2Mzc1NjU0OTYxOTczMg%3D%3D.2.c)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=38r3V_N5l3E (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=38r3V_N5l3E)


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: sampitt on May 19, 2017, 12:39:18 AM
I have the feeling that we're getting close-ish, but I think we'll still see more delays. My prediction is shipping late July or early August. I have two personal deadlines. The first deadline is soft: I expect my 308 suppressor to have finished paying its debt to society by the end of August and if I don't have an MDR by then I'll be sorely tempted to jump ship, probably to the POF Revolution. My hard deadline is November, which is when I expect to have the land cleared for a 300 yard range on my property. If I don't have my MDR by then, that rifle's budget will go someplace else for sure, again, probably the Revolution. So I'm okay at least until August.

Wow agree with you 100%. My drop dead date is my agencies' next rifle qualification this winter. Probably some time after September. By then I will have to have selected my .308 rifle. If no MDR by then- I will be forced into going with the P.O.F. Revolution (maybe by then they'll have an 18" variant)

(https://media.licdn.com/media/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAQJAAAAJGVhNTNjMmM2LTM3YjEtNDVkYi1hN2YyLTU0YmY2ZjkyMjgwMQ.png)
(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/c110.0.860.860/12479131_1578296519165922_195544037_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTIzMDc2Mzc1NjU0OTYxOTczMg%3D%3D.2.c)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=38r3V_N5l3E (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=38r3V_N5l3E)

Those ads gave me molon cancer on 3% of my labe


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: AF Gunner on May 19, 2017, 10:24:36 AM


Those ads gave me molon cancer on 3% of my labe
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hahahah


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Potss on May 19, 2017, 02:48:07 PM
Revolution accuracy has looked really sub par from all tests I've seen so far. You can build a lighter and more accurate AR10 for the money anyway.  I'd get JPs light lightweight AR10 if you have to buy a factory gun.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Glorfindel on May 19, 2017, 06:45:27 PM
Revolution accuracy has looked really sub par from all tests I've seen so far. You can build a lighter and more accurate AR10 for the money anyway.  I'd get JPs light lightweight AR10 if you have to buy a factory gun.

I'm interested in the short OAL as well as the purported ability to cycle subsonics, not just the light weight, although that's also a big draw.

I've seen the Rusty S review from TFB and he didn't report great accuracy, but I don't know his work in general, so he may be shooting the gun to its potential, or he may not. The only other review I've seen is Bigshooterist on Full30, who has a multi-part video review. I seem to recall him getting well under MOA groups, but I don't have time to watch the series again at the moment.

I really wish someone would put out a test on the subsonic cycling capabilities POF is claiming. If that's reliably true, It'll be a godsend for the suppressor crowd.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Box on May 19, 2017, 08:21:36 PM
When August gets here, I predict the MDR won't be.

Of course I hope I'm wrong.   


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: spector762 on May 19, 2017, 08:26:07 PM
When August gets here, I predict the MDR won't be.

Of course I hope I'm wrong.   
[/quote i wouldn't bet against you


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Potss on May 19, 2017, 09:29:32 PM
I watched bigshooterist as well and I never saw sub-moa.  The short OAL you can build, and technically you could set one up to cycle subs with an oversized gas port and an adjustable gas block too, but I wouldn't recommend it.  I hadn't seen the sub claim from POF, would love to see that tested too.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Glorfindel on May 19, 2017, 11:06:30 PM
I watched bigshooterist as well and I never saw sub-moa.  The short OAL you can build, and technically you could set one up to cycle subs with an oversized gas port and an adjustable gas block too, but I wouldn't recommend it.  I hadn't seen the sub claim from POF, would love to see that tested too.

Going back over the internet, the only subsonic cycling claim I can find now is from Defense Review, which says someone from POF claimed their 10.5" SBR was cycling it. I guess it isn't an official claim from POF. I'll report back here if I find out.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: hillbillyjim on May 20, 2017, 10:28:45 AM
Only thing close I'm getting to is close to canceling.  But I've made it this far and still have hope


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Steelviper on May 20, 2017, 07:36:10 PM
I watched bigshooterist as well and I never saw sub-moa.  The short OAL you can build, and technically you could set one up to cycle subs with an oversized gas port and an adjustable gas block too, but I wouldn't recommend it.  I hadn't seen the sub claim from POF, would love to see that tested too.

Going back over the internet, the only subsonic cycling claim I can find now is from Defense Review, which says someone from POF claimed their 10.5" SBR was cycling it. I guess it isn't an official claim from POF. I'll report back here if I find out.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X-fEFlmnGBI (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X-fEFlmnGBI)

My Google-fu is strong today. Go to the 4:10 part of the linked video Frank himself states the Revolution can cycle sub-sonic ammunition. So I guess that is "someone from POF".

Also as I linked (linked again below) before shooterist looks like he is getting some pretty darn accuracy in his Part 5 video with "decent" ammo. So not sure where the accuracy questions are coming from?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=38r3V_N5l3E (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=38r3V_N5l3E)


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: HBeretta on May 20, 2017, 07:41:30 PM
And when the f$ck did this turn into a POF thread?!!  I'm f$@kin' with you all...as you were.   8)


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Glorfindel on May 22, 2017, 10:58:33 AM
SINCE IT DID, HBeretta! :hijacked  :--*

Oh, right, as we were.

It turns out the Revolution as it currently stands will NOT cycle subsonic ammunition.

I contacted POF about the subsonic cycling and this was the reply from Darrell in tech support: "We have not had any success getting the 16.5" version to cycle. The only Revolution that will cycle sub sonic is the short barrel version which is not available to the public at this time."

Still a very attractive alternative if the MDR doesn't come to fruition by my personal deadlines, though.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: TNC on May 22, 2017, 11:18:57 AM
SINCE IT DID, HBeretta! :hijacked  :--*

Oh, right, as we were.

It turns out the Revolution as it currently stands will NOT cycle subsonic ammunition.

I contacted POF about the subsonic cycling and this was the reply from Darrell in tech support: "We have not had any success getting the 16.5" version to cycle. The only Revolution that will cycle sub sonic is the short barrel version which is not available to the public at this time."

Still a very attractive alternative if the MDR doesn't come to fruition by my personal deadlines, though.

Interesting.  I've only heard about this new gun to a small degree.  Curious...was the statement about not cycling subs involving shooting with a suppressor?  That's almost hard to believe it wouldn't cycle with a suppressor due to the obvious increase in pressure.  I could understand a given firearm possibly not cycling subs without a suppressor, but then I'm in the boat of not having any desire to shoot subs without a suppressor in just about any firearm.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Glorfindel on May 22, 2017, 12:20:15 PM

Interesting.  I've only heard about this new gun to a small degree.  Curious...was the statement about not cycling subs involving shooting with a suppressor?  That's almost hard to believe it wouldn't cycle with a suppressor due to the obvious increase in pressure.  I could understand a given firearm possibly not cycling subs without a suppressor, but then I'm in the boat of not having any desire to shoot subs without a suppressor in just about any firearm.

Subsonic rounds are loaded to a much lower pressure than supersonic because they would otherwise exit the muzzle too fast and end up supersonic. Most 308 semiautos cannot cycle reliably with pressure that low. If you increase the weight of the round to the point where pressure is adequate without pushing the bullet too fast, you run into potential over-pressure problems, cartridge OAL problems, and "failure to adequately stabilize long, heavy rounds" problems (quotes to aid clarity).

The question was about shooting subs with a suppressor. The only possible reason I can think of for shooting subs unsuppressed is if you really REALLY hate recoil.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Potss on May 23, 2017, 02:08:26 AM
He shoots 1x five round group...that is almost as unrepresentative as it gets.  When I see a 5x5 or 3x10 under MOA we'll call it accurate.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: davek on May 23, 2017, 09:29:01 PM
And when the f$ck did this turn into a POF thread?!!  I'm f$@kin' with you all...as you were.   8)

This is a bullpup forum, it should have become a K&N thread for an alternate .308.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Potss on May 23, 2017, 11:00:18 PM
Wish we had more data on K&M accurate too.  Would it really f***ing kill manufacturers to just refine a load and do a 5x5 or 3x10 for us to see a best case with a rifle?  Just film the whole thing with no editing so it is obvious no bulls*** is going on and bam, you have earned the trust and respect of a lot of shooters. 


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Mnbullpup80 on May 24, 2017, 06:07:53 AM
I think the feeling you had was just indigestion. Don't worry though DT will kick you in the stomach again in a few days with another delay. Any thoughts on what the next excuse will be?  Maybe we could provide Nick with a few good ones in this forum.

I'll start: Dear loyal customers, our design is flawed and I just realized this project is bankrupting the company, therefore I have decided to end the MDR project. Thank you for investing in my company. Refunds will be in the form of an incomplete MDR parts kit. See if you can make it work. Good Luck!


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: ammomans on May 24, 2017, 08:53:43 AM
How about this:

Dear customers,

Thank you for your interest-free funding of the MDR project for the last 18 months. We couldn't have made it this far without your hard earned cash! (we tried getting money from a bank, but they wanted something in return)  However, due to unforeseen issues with our vendors, we need another 18 months interest-free funding.  We will be charging your card again, but this time for the new full price of the MDR - $3,000.  (your first payment only covers the cost of the cool MDR t-shirt we will include when it finally ships.)  More news to come in 18 months.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Grifter on May 24, 2017, 08:54:40 AM
Refunds will be in the form of an incomplete MDR parts kit. See if you can make it work. Good Luck!

I would be willing to bet a lot of folks would accept that, and likely be happy with it.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: HBeretta on May 24, 2017, 11:24:03 AM
I think the feeling you had was just indigestion. Don't worry though DT will kick you in the stomach again in a few days with another delay. Any thoughts on what the next excuse will be?

You were right...I popped two tums to take care of it.  I've stocked up on Prilosec for the upcoming update.

As far as what the next excuse will be...I'm still laughing at the feb. 2017 (<unfortunately must clarify the year here) update when they stated 'rifles are on track to start shipping in march'.  I stopped taking them for their word after Nick's YouTube video in 2016 stating 3rd qtr.  Seeing is believing...has been for a lot us for a while now.

They'll eventually release it, just never sold on their monthly updates.

Incidentally, 'The Boy who cried wolf' fable has been replaced in public schools with the new 'The company who promised the MDR' fable.  You can also find it on Amazon.  Prime members obviously get free shipping but Amazon indicates delivery delays of 6-9 mos.  Amazon's CEO even put up a YouTube video discussing the delays while committing to the 3rd qtr.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: EWTHeckman on May 24, 2017, 12:43:28 PM
I want to see it ship, if only to silence the @#$%#@! trolls.  >:(

Don't you losers have billy goats to chase or something?


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: HBeretta on May 24, 2017, 01:42:04 PM
I want to see it ship, if only to silence the @#$%#@! trolls.  >:(

Don't you losers have billy goats to chase or something?

https://youtu.be/SKHhaihALh4 (https://youtu.be/SKHhaihALh4)


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Frostburg on May 24, 2017, 03:56:25 PM
I think the feeling you had was just indigestion. Don't worry though DT will kick you in the stomach again in a few days with another delay. Any thoughts on what the next excuse will be?

You were right...I popped two tums to take care of it.  I've stocked up on Prilosec for the upcoming update.

As far as what the next excuse will be...I'm still laughing at the feb. 2017 (<unfortunately must clarify the year here) update when they stated 'rifles are on track to start shipping in march'.  I stopped taking them for their word after Nick's YouTube video in 2016 stating 3rd qtr.  Seeing is believing...has been for a lot us for a while now.

They'll eventually release it, just never sold on their monthly updates.

Incidentally, 'The Boy who cried wolf' fable has been replaced in public schools with the new 'The company who promised the MDR' fable.  You can also find it on Amazon.  Prime members obviously get free shipping but Amazon indicates delivery delays of 6-9 mos.  Amazon's CEO even put up a YouTube video discussing the delays while committing to the 3rd qtr.

LOL, this is the funniest thing I've read!


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Frostburg on May 24, 2017, 03:58:33 PM
I want to see it ship, if only to silence the @#$%#@! trolls.  >:(

Don't you losers have billy goats to chase or something?

Lol, this is also quite funny. But not as funny as the thing Hberetta said.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: kfeltenberger on May 24, 2017, 07:36:23 PM
I want to see it ship, if only to silence the @#$%#@! trolls.  >:(

Don't you losers have billy goats to chase or something?

I think it's the only way for no-post count newbies to build their post and try to build some edgy hater-cred.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Frostburg on May 24, 2017, 08:11:13 PM
I want to see it ship, if only to silence the @#$%#@! trolls.  >:(

Don't you losers have billy goats to chase or something?

I think it's the only way for no-post count newbies to build their post and try to build some edgy hater-cred.

Lol, you skip over my posts, but comment on a post like two or three posts back?


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: kfeltenberger on May 24, 2017, 08:27:18 PM
I want to see it ship, if only to silence the @#$%#@! trolls.  >:(

Don't you losers have billy goats to chase or something?

I think it's the only way for no-post count newbies to build their post and try to build some edgy hater-cred.

Lol, you skip over my posts, but comment on a post like two or three posts back?

He's in the next county over...those of us who have to deal with the Amish Mafia have to stick together!   ;D :D ;)


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Daryn on May 24, 2017, 09:49:46 PM
My tracking number came in today, says delivery date of June 3rd


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Ditcher on May 24, 2017, 10:12:54 PM
I thought April 1st has already past?


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Siris on May 24, 2017, 10:14:43 PM
My tracking number came in today, says delivery date of June 3rd

PROOF! D:


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: sampitt on May 25, 2017, 05:30:55 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/7pUB9un.png)


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: spector762 on May 25, 2017, 08:13:04 PM
My tracking number came in today, says delivery date of June 3rd
if you have a tracking number for the MDR then please screen shot the email we need proof


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: coldboremiracle on May 25, 2017, 09:41:23 PM
My tracking number came in today, says delivery date of June 3rd
if you have a tracking number for the MDR then please screen shot the email we need proof
He may have a tracking number, but it's not an MDR.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: spector762 on May 25, 2017, 09:48:58 PM
My tracking number came in today, says delivery date of June 3rd
if you have a tracking number for the MDR then please screen shot the email we need proof
He may have a tracking number, but it's not an MDR.
so Oakland tacitical is wrong as well ?


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Grifter on May 25, 2017, 10:19:19 PM
so Oakland tacitical is wrong as well ?

Oakland Tactical never said they had a tracking number nor that they were actually expecting them. They even stressed that they felt this was more empty promises from DT by referencing air quotes. Did you only read what you wanted to?


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: spector762 on May 26, 2017, 03:53:41 AM
so Oakland tacitical is wrong as well ?

Oakland Tactical never said they had a tracking number nor that they were actually expecting them. They even stressed that they felt this was more empty promises from DT by referencing air quotes. Did you only read what you wanted to?
all I asked was if there supposed ship date was wrong as well


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: Grifter on May 26, 2017, 09:18:40 AM
all I asked was if there supposed ship date was wrong as well

They do not seem very confident in their ship date, especially given that they weren't even given an actual date at all.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: HBeretta on May 26, 2017, 09:35:40 AM
He may have a tracking number, but it's not an MDR.

It appears another delay confirmed?


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: coldboremiracle on May 26, 2017, 10:20:06 AM
He may have a tracking number, but it's not an MDR.

It appears another delay confirmed?
I have no information about that, what I do know is this; IF an MDR was finished and shipping out, there would be a big deal at Desert Tech. There would likely be a pause in work, video's recorded, social media posts documenting it, etc.

Since none of that has happened, I can assure you nobody has a tracking number about an MDR.


Title: Re: Have this feeling we're getting close...
Post by: HBeretta on May 26, 2017, 10:32:00 AM
I have no information about that, what I do know is this; IF an MDR was finished and shipping out, there would be a big deal at Desert Tech. There would likely be a pause in work, video's recorded, social media posts documenting it, etc.

Since none of that has happened, I can assure you nobody has a tracking number about an MDR.

good to know...thanks for clarifying.