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Title: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: Sgt_P on January 16, 2017, 09:18:23 AM
This will be a "general" thread for SHOT Show videos, pic's, write-ups, and discussions.

Obviously, individual Bullpup platforms might be in the specific section.

Monday, 16 January, 2017 is Range Day, with the "Show" being Tuesday through Friday (17th - 20th).

Stay tuned...


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: Sgt_P on January 17, 2017, 10:20:57 AM
Not much innovation at Media Range Day.  I think that with the threat of hillary being so relevant during the last year, companies were afraid to do R&D.

Here's what I did learn...

SKO-12 - The Semi-Auto 12ga Bullpup shotgun is still in the works.  They are telling me it looks like mid- to late-this year.  More info from the Show Floor in the next day or two...

IWI Taovr X95:  The news is about the 300BLK.  The X95 will have see some dedicated 300BLK coming soon, with kits to follow a few months later.  More info to come...

What to stuff (25) 2-3/4" shells in a KSG?  You'll be able to with a new model to be introduced this year.  Obviously it's a longer KSG (longer barrel, and mag-tubes).  Guess how many mini-shells it will hold!?!

The Kel-Tec RDB will have a "collapsible" stock for as short a version possible, without shortening the barrel.  More info to come from the floor!



Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: Sgt_P on January 17, 2017, 01:15:50 PM
Desert Tech teaser...

the MDR will ship in a plastic case, and check out the size!!!

(http://bullpupforum.com/gallery/1_17_01_17_10_14_28.jpeg)


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: Plinker on January 17, 2017, 04:32:48 PM
I threw up a quick steyr video on my YouTube channel.  Haven't figured out how to grab the url from my phone,  yet,  but look for user name Plinker and you'll find me.


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: jay6669 on January 17, 2017, 04:43:49 PM
I threw up a quick steyr video on my YouTube channel.  Haven't figured out how to grab the url from my phone,  yet,  but look for user name Plinker and you'll find me.

link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFOJrWk83HY


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: MarkB on January 17, 2017, 05:18:47 PM
I threw up a quick steyr video on my YouTube channel.  Haven't figured out how to grab the url from my phone,  yet,  but look for user name Plinker and you'll find me.

link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFOJrWk83HY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFOJrWk83HY)

Active link


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: MarkB on January 17, 2017, 05:21:11 PM
IWI introduced a bolt action rifle.

http://www.alloutdoor.com/2017/01/13/iwi-unveil-dan-338-tactical-precision-rifle-2017-shot-show/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2017-01-17&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter (http://www.alloutdoor.com/2017/01/13/iwi-unveil-dan-338-tactical-precision-rifle-2017-shot-show/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2017-01-17&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter)


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: MarkB on January 17, 2017, 05:23:59 PM
Stag Arms has a .308 AR10 type.  No decision on a lefty model yet.

http://go.stagarms.com/stag-10-models?utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=40784813&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9poWM0IigGJFga_BQLewpPF2qITLYSGmXvQ-sHSemkvk4klXyVyiooFyNZts0PtnoSmRMJ8naBLopBcjUsao28vBV9ng&_hsmi=40784813 (http://go.stagarms.com/stag-10-models?utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=40784813&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9poWM0IigGJFga_BQLewpPF2qITLYSGmXvQ-sHSemkvk4klXyVyiooFyNZts0PtnoSmRMJ8naBLopBcjUsao28vBV9ng&_hsmi=40784813)


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: EWTHeckman on January 17, 2017, 05:24:27 PM
Is there a JARD booth? Has anyone stopped by there?

Update (after checking the show website): JARD is there, booth N113 on the 3rd floor. That booth is just a dot on the screen in the floor map. That really gives an idea of just how huge the scale of this show really is.


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: kfeltenberger on January 17, 2017, 07:50:17 PM
Desert Tech teaser...

the MDR will ship in a plastic case, and check out the size!!!

(http://bullpupforum.com/gallery/1_17_01_17_10_14_28.jpeg)

This is...portable.  Pretty much renders my Eberlestock Secret Weapon pack redundant.


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: SHORT-N-SASSY on January 17, 2017, 07:51:29 PM
(http://i68.tinypic.com/2ntfbl4.jpg)

(http://i68.tinypic.com/25yy847.jpg)
(http://www.itstactical.com/centcom/its-information/shot-show-2017-day-1-live-coverage/ (http://www.itstactical.com/centcom/its-information/shot-show-2017-day-1-live-coverage/))


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: Plinker on January 17, 2017, 09:39:12 PM
Is there a JARD booth? Has anyone stopped by there?

Update (after checking the show website): JARD is there, booth N113 on the 3rd floor. That booth is just a dot on the screen in the floor map. That really gives an idea of just how huge the scale of this show really is.

Yes,  not far from the media room.  We stopped by and got some pictures.  Sarge talked to the guy. Several variations on the theme. Interesting,  but not what I'd call attractive.  Maybe Sgt_P will chime in on this.


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: EWTHeckman on January 17, 2017, 10:51:02 PM
Is that truly integrally suppressed? Or is it just a regular or over-the-barrel suppressor covered by the hand guard?


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: jay6669 on January 18, 2017, 01:34:18 AM


What to stuff (25) 2-3/4" shells in a KSG?  You'll be able to with a new model to be introduced this year.  Obviously it's a longer KSG (longer barrel, and mag-tubes).  Guess how many mini-shells it will hold!?!



41 mini shells  :==0 I think I would get tired of holding it up before I emptied that lol


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: Sgt_P on January 18, 2017, 02:17:09 AM
Kel-Tec interview covering the KSG, RFB, RDB...




Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: Box on January 18, 2017, 02:35:45 AM
Nice video, Sgt_P.  Well done.


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: Ross on January 18, 2017, 07:46:07 PM
Sgt_P, what's it going to take to get a bunch of photos of the MDR (FDE if you don't mind) uploaded for us poor saps that couldn't make SHOT this year.

Ross


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: EWTHeckman on January 18, 2017, 08:08:53 PM
Sgt_P, what's it going to take to get a bunch of photos of the MDR (FDE if you don't mind) uploaded for us poor saps that couldn't make SHOT this year.

Desert Tech is supposed to be having a special range day tomorrow. He's probably waiting until then to focus on them so that he can get to other vendors too.


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: EWTHeckman on January 19, 2017, 12:04:18 PM
Here is a video of Dean from Jard, Inc. going over their (mostly) bullpup lineup at Shot Show.

SHOT Show 2017: JARD BullPup Lineup And 10/22 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZXryFYB9js)

https://www.youtube.com/embed/KZXryFYB9js


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: SHORT-N-SASSY on January 19, 2017, 09:05:41 PM
(http://i66.tinypic.com/2cx7nyx.jpg)

(http://i63.tinypic.com/fuvrly.jpg)
(https://sofrep.com/72774/km-arms-bullpup-rifle-show-show/ (https://sofrep.com/72774/km-arms-bullpup-rifle-show-show/))


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: Sgt_P on January 20, 2017, 02:18:37 AM
MDR pre-production shoot on Thursday night from SHOT Show 2017:

Video coming, but it will probably be tomorrow at this point.

Desert Tech honored BullpupForum.com by letting me shoot first.  We were so anxious about this event, we beat DT there, and their staff scrambled to get everything set up.  But after a few initial glitches, and the line stretching out the door, I got to press off some rounds.

The chassis is striking to look at (as you all know from the pictures, but in person, "WOW!")  And the ergonomics don't disappoint.  It's natural and the buttpad fit my chest nicely.  The pistol grip had a natural angle, and my M4-muscle memory returned when it was time to drop the empty mag, and my finger went straight to the mag-release, and the mag dropped free.  I'm a traditionalist with fore-grips, so the front felt perfect and natural (YMMV for you VFG guys). 

The ambi- Charging handles is a nice touch, and although small, my fingers found them easily, and the pull was light and easy.  I also seated my second mag and from the open bolt, I "judo-chopped" the charging handle.  Lightning!

I was so excited (it felt like Christmas) that I worked through the first mag without really digesting the trigger-press and reset.  But I can assure you, I had no pause to think the trigger was lacking.  In hindsight, it was crisp and positive, with a pull weight similar to other battle carbines (probably 5-6 lbs).

The 308 was loud and pounding from within the indoor tight quarters.  But when shouldered, the MDR 308 was extremely controllable, and soft shooting.  There was little to no muzzle rise, and the follow up was quick. 

I can't wait to spend a long session at an outdoor range, allowing this crush to turn into true-love.

More to come from SHOT Show 2017


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: Rabies on January 20, 2017, 12:17:55 PM
So Jealous!


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: Plinker on January 20, 2017, 12:39:14 PM
Range video is posted in the MDR forum:  http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=11146.60


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: Sgt_P on January 21, 2017, 10:29:39 PM
Quick video from IWI and Rebecca about the X95 300BLK...




Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: Sgt_P on January 21, 2017, 11:05:26 PM
Standard Manufacturing has some new toys (namely a semi-auto, box-mag fed 12ga, coming soon)...




Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: Sgt_P on January 22, 2017, 07:49:51 PM
Hartman LTD MH1 Red Dot discussion with LtCol Harman (IDF, retired)...



Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: unsungboxer on January 23, 2017, 10:28:38 PM
Where is the gearhead coverage?  i was anticipating a bunch of exciting X95 developments...


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: srfnken on January 23, 2017, 11:29:31 PM
If you don't make it over to my section or my facebook page check this out.
Over at The Arms Guide they did a shot show 2017 bullpup roundup.  We were lucky enough to make the cut thanks to the Elftmann Tactical crew for letting us hang out in their booth all week.  You have to see the entire article to see where they put us in the running with all the big guys.  You can skip to the end of the article if you just want to see us.
https://thearmsguide.com/11788/bullpup-round-shot-show-2017/ (https://thearmsguide.com/11788/bullpup-round-shot-show-2017/)


Title: Re: 2017 SHOT Show . . .
Post by: Plinker on January 23, 2017, 11:47:20 PM
Gearhead video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iStDkRr39sI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iStDkRr39sI)